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Several dead in Swiss shooting - 27/2/2013 11:34:01 AM   
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Will this have any impact on the US gun debate? The pro-gun lobby is forever citing Switzerland as some sort of crime-free Utopia where firearms are readily available...

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RE: Several dead in Swiss shooting - 27/2/2013 1:00:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cloud Cuckoo
The pro-gun lobby is forever citing Switzerland as some sort of crime-free Utopia


Cos it's not full of Americans.

I doubt it will have any impact at all - Swiss gun ownership has a very different background than most other countries, so the US pro-lobby will just differentiate this particular incident and say the two countries cannot be compared, just as they have whenever the subject of Swiss individual murder and suicide rates is brought up.



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RE: Several dead in Swiss shooting - 27/2/2013 1:47:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: great_badir

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cloud Cuckoo
The pro-gun lobby is forever citing Switzerland as some sort of crime-free Utopia


Cos it's not full of Americans.

I doubt it will have any impact at all - Swiss gun ownership has a very different background than most other countries, so the US pro-lobby will just differentiate this particular incident and say the two countries cannot be compared, just as they have whenever the subject of Swiss individual murder and suicide rates is brought up.


I may be wrong, but I think that while gun ownership is very common in Switzerland, they're not allowed to keep ammunition in the house (or something like that) so the two countries really don't compare.


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RE: Several dead in Swiss shooting - 27/2/2013 1:59:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: great_badir

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cloud Cuckoo
The pro-gun lobby is forever citing Switzerland as some sort of crime-free Utopia


Cos it's not full of Americans.

I doubt it will have any impact at all - Swiss gun ownership has a very different background than most other countries, so the US pro-lobby will just differentiate this particular incident and say the two countries cannot be compared, just as they have whenever the subject of Swiss individual murder and suicide rates is brought up.


I may be wrong, but I think that while gun ownership is very common in Switzerland, they're not allowed to keep ammunition in the house (or something like that) so the two countries really don't compare.


Yar, they probs don't compare. And, obviously, a Swiss "massacre" it seems is very different from an American massacre.

I don't think any country's gun laws (or use) can be compared with the States.

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