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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 1:06:54 AM   
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How many times have you seen that piece of shit film?

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 1:08:08 AM   
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Um. Lots. And then a few more.

His epi of Game of Thrones apparently looked amazing on the big screen at the GFF

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 1:09:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: elab49

How many Hobbit votes did Gimli submit?

I didn't vote for it for effects because I hated the whole 3D/2zillion FPS experience and think it should lose all SFX awards for that. Also for the pretty poor race underground.


It was a very tight race, just one vote in it.


The Hobbit both looked and was awful. Life of Pi should have tied up the visuals.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 1:17:29 AM   
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What is 'the next one'?

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 1:22:09 AM   
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Waltz - Fantastic.

Art Direction - well deserved.

Amy Adams - yeah, she was great.

Who Did that to You - wicked.

The Master for score - yeah, well deserved

SLP for screenplay - hmmm, not my first choice.

Original Screenplay - the two I've seen both deserve it.

Jennifer Lawrence is so beautiful. I want to be her. Or I want her. Either way, I'd be happy.

Affleck for director - yeah, I'm okay with that

Moonrise Kingdom - My first choice - so I'm pleased. It really should have been nominated at the actual Oscars.


The lack of Pirates! and The Deep Blue Sea saddens me though.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 1:27:41 AM   
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His epi of Game of Thrones apparently looked amazing on the big screen at the GFF


I didn't even realise he'd directed one. Do we finally have proof he can direct something decent as long as he's bitch-slapped into submission every time he tries to pick up a pen?

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What is 'the next one'?


Films that were eligible for last year.

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The lack of Pirates! and The Deep Blue Sea saddens me though.


Pirates was second in animated. Deep Blue Sea was second in screenplay, so both were close.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 1:42:38 AM   
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If not for Lee Jones, Waltz would be my pick for supporting actor tomorrow
Cinematography should have been The Hobbit.
As should Prod design
Not seen The Master but Adams is always good.
Effects for The Hobbit. Yay! I still maintain that in glorious 2D this film looked sublime.
Two good awards for sound. Should have been The Hobbit though!
Animated film. Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Not seen Holy Motors. Should have been The Hobbit
Costume. Yay!
Who Did That To You is an ace song. So I'm quite happy with this.
Not heard the music from The Master,. I know his work for TWBB was good but massively overhyped.
Adapted screenplay should have been The Pirates!
Not seen either lead performance
Best Director was possibly the most obvious award ever, even more than any the actual Academy have given and just as undeserved


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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 1:46:00 AM   
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Yay for Silver Linings getting Best Adapted, Moonrise and Seven Psychopaths getting Best Original Screenplay (Haven't seen The Master)


A big yay for Wreck It-Ralph (soooooo much better then Brave)

HELL YEAH for Denis Lavant for getting Best Actor. He was amazing.

As was Jennifer Lawrence and a HELL YEAH for her getting Best Actress.

*insert celebratory comment about Ben Affleck getting Best Director* Take that Academy!

And my favourite film of 2012 takes out Best Picture

Thanks for all your effort Rawls, I'm keen on participating in more of these

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 2:00:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

Not seen Holy Motors. Should have been The Hobbit



You need to see Holy Motors.

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Who Did That To You is an ace song. So I'm quite happy with this.


You like a good song? I'm actually shocked.

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Best Director was possibly the most obvious award ever, even more than any the actual Academy have given and just as undeserved


It was a really tight race. PTA was a very close second.

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HELL YEAH for Denis Lavant for getting Best Actor. He was amazing.


Absolutely, beat out Killer Joe himself by just one vote.

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Thanks for all your effort Rawls, I'm keen on participating in more of these


Cool cool. It makes sense to do 2011 next, part of me would love to do 1993 so we can correct that hideous Schindler's List wrong and give best picture to Groundhog Day.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 2:11:43 AM   
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HELL YEAH for Denis Lavant for getting Best Actor. He was amazing.


Absolutely, beat out Killer Joe himself by just one vote.



At least it was a close race They were definitely my two favourite male performances of the year.


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Thanks for all your effort Rawls, I'm keen on participating in more of these


Cool cool. It makes sense to do 2011 next, part of me would love to do 1993 so we can correct that hideous Schindler's List wrong and give best picture to Groundhog Day.



Sssh, if you keep this up you might make Gimli cry! (I really need to rewatch Groundhog Day. It's been years).

Can I get in early and put down a FYC for Jessica Chastain for Best Actress (Tree of Life) and Albert Brooks for Best Supporting Actor? (Drive).

Oh and Leila Hatami for A Separation.



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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 2:26:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rawlinson


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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

Not seen Holy Motors. Should have been The Hobbit



You need to see Holy Motors.

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Who Did That To You is an ace song. So I'm quite happy with this.


You like a good song? I'm actually shocked.


Nice to know I can still surprise in a good way

Holy Motors will have to wait for a bit, a lot of HOF watching to do!

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 7:37:44 AM   
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Best Picture: Moonrise Kingdom – Oh that is a surprise not a bad one I loved it.

Director: Ben Affleck for Argo – Getting more meh by the day. I liked Argo I don’t think it’s Best Picture or Director material not when looking at other films and people eligible. Unpopular opinion I guess. Still they do love it when Hollywood saves the day.

Actor: Denis Lavant for Holy Motors – Yep, though the film isn’t a complete success (though is amazeballs) Lavant is superb.

Actress: Jennifer Lawrence for Silver Linings Playbook – Got a nomination from me and is one of my favourites of last year but didn’t get my final vote.

Supporting Actor: Christoph Waltz for Django Unchained – Another lovely turn from Waltz but didn’t get my vote.

Supporting Actress: Amy Adams for The Master – Fuck yeah. INSTANT LES MIS RAGE! Fucks Sake.

Original Screenplay: The Master/Moonrise Kingdom/Seven Psychopaths – Excellent.

Adapted Screenplay: Silver Linings Playbook - Nope.

Foreign Language: Amour – Well yeah but didn’t realise we were doing this.
Documentary: Searching for Sugar Man – Or this.


Animated Film: Wreck-It Ralph – I loved Ralph and though a second viewing wasn’t as good still a brilliant piece. It isn’t however anywhere near as good near as good as Pirates.

Art Direction: Moonrise Kingdom – Cool, cool.
Cinematography: The Master – Brilliant.
Costume Design: The Hobbit – Is it actually nominated for this year’s awards?
Editing: Argo – This is where Argo got my vote.
Make-Up: Holy Motors – I get it but I don’t agree.
Score: The Master – Yes. Yes and Yes again, Greenwood was fucked over for Blood.
Song: Django Unchained – Good song.
Sound Editing: Django Unchained - Okay
Sound Mixing: Zero Dark Thirty – Yep.
Visual Effects: The Hobbit - Now I liked The Hobbit immensely but really?


Cheers Rawls.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 7:44:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: impqueen

Costume Design: The Hobbit – Is it actually nominated for this year’s awards?



No



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ORIGINAL: impqueen

Visual Effects: The Hobbit - Now I liked The Hobbit immensely but really?



I really am the only one who loved the effects in this, aren't I? Wargs and rabbits aside, it's oodles better than anything else I can think of from the past year. And outside of the obvious CGI the miniatures work is fantastic. Then it becomes more impressive when you realise they didn't (almost certain of this) actually use miniatures.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 7:49:30 AM   
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Oh I didn't mind the Effects at all but some were on the obviously ropey side which surprised me. I loved those bunnies! For me there were films I liked less (or plain didn’t like) but they did have better, more impressive Visuals.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 8:01:12 AM   
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Sorry, I'm just in in bad mood. I always tend to be on Oscar day

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 8:13:38 AM   
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Is that because they suck? I've not watched the show (stayed up and such) in many years, it no longer provides me with anything except stomach ulcers.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 9:29:55 AM   
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I can stay up this year but I'm not sure I'll bother. Presenter does nothing for me, the musicals theme kind of leaves me cold and my TV would end up with the control in the middle when the Chicago lot turn up. And then they'd give Argo ridiculous awards. At the moment I'm clinging on to the fact they'd the sense to not nominate several of these directors.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 10:18:42 AM   
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Is that because they suck? I've not watched the show (stayed up and such) in many years, it no longer provides me with anything except stomach ulcers.


Sort of. I do actually love watching them, I just tend to disagree with most of the awards given and I guess I will tonight. Add to that the fact that my two favourite of last year got four nominations between them I'm gutted before they even start. But a Lincoln sweep would help make up for that!

If I can I'll watch tonight.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 12:09:30 PM   
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I think The Hobbit got six winning votes to Life of Pee's five, so there's five more people out there who liked it as much as you. Although, I was one of the votes and I cast it early out of the feeling that The Hobbit would be Pee's biggest challenger and I didn't want that Forrest Gump for the new century to get any wins. Tactical voting ftw.

I actually don't want Lincoln to win anything tonight. Very good film, but the hardcore fans have turned into this year's whiny entitled little shits. They seem to think that because the screenwriter is who he is, he automatically deserves every writing award out there and when he doesn't win it's "jealousy". They're getting close to Social Network level in places.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 12:22:48 PM   
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I’ve not read all of Team of Rivals (loaned it never got it back, needs rectifying) but surely Terence Davies and Gideon Defoe should be battling it out for the adapted screenplay award. I have a feeling Lincoln will get Picture and Director, as well as Actor.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 12:33:03 PM   
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On board with Defoe and Davies. Hadn't realised Kushner had zealots. His writing isn't good enough to deserve it. Too much empty bombast.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 12:41:48 PM   
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The script for Lincoln is both "poetic" and "important", apparently. I just thought it was a very good political drama. Shows what I know.

Deep Blue Sea and Killer Joe were my top two adapted screenplays in the noms, but I'm very happy about Silver Linings.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 1:18:04 PM   
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Great stuff Rawls, really enjoyed doing this. Shame a few of my early nominations didn't get in but a lot of deserving winners there.

Just had a look at the 84th eligible films and I'm really looking forward to that. It was a much stronger year than this one.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 1:34:18 PM   
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Yeah, there did seem to be a lot more good stuff eligible, but at the same time I much prefer the actual Oscar line-up for this year to last. Only two films I dislike cluttering up the best picture list this year, last year had four.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 2:30:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rawlinson

Final Winners list

Best Picture: Moonrise Kingdom
Director: Ben Affleck for Argo
Actor: Denis Lavant for Holy Motors
Actress: Jennifer Lawrence for Silver Linings Playbook
Supporting Actor: Christoph Waltz for Django Unchained
Supporting Actress: Amy Adams for The Master
Original Screenplay: The Master/Moonrise Kingdom/Seven Psychopaths
Adapted Screenplay: Silver Linings Playbook
Foreign Language: Amour
Documentary: Searching for Sugar Man
Animated Film: Wreck-It Ralph
Art Direction: Moonrise Kingdom
Cinematography: The Master
Costume Design: The Hobbit
Editing: Argo
Make-Up: Holy Motors
Score: The Master
Song: Django Unchained
Sound Editing: Django Unchained
Sound Mixing: Zero Dark Thirty
Visual Effects: The Hobbit


Well, at least Denis, Amy, Jonny & Ben won.

Django for sound editing? You havin' a laugh? That's almost as bad as the Hobbit winning visual effects. The rest of the technical nods are decent shouts though.

Moonrise Kingdom wouldn't have been my choice for best picture but I'll take that ahead of some of the stuff threatening to win.

The Master looks great but Deakins' work on Skyfall is amazing & he deserved to win. I hope the academy get past their probable Bond prejudice and recognise this for the real thing.








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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 2:41:52 PM   
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Skyfall should have been nominated for best picture and director. It's a really classy and well crafted flick.

But hey, the Academy always get shit wrong.

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 24/2/2013 3:50:52 PM   
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Final Winners list

Best Picture: Moonrise Kingdom
Director: Ben Affleck for Argo
Actor: Denis Lavant for Holy Motors
Actress: Jennifer Lawrence for Silver Linings Playbook
Supporting Actor: Christoph Waltz for Django Unchained
Supporting Actress: Amy Adams for The Master
Original Screenplay: The Master/Moonrise Kingdom/Seven Psychopaths
Adapted Screenplay: Silver Linings Playbook
Foreign Language: Amour
Documentary: Searching for Sugar Man
Animated Film: Wreck-It Ralph
Art Direction: Moonrise Kingdom
Cinematography: The Master
Costume Design: The Hobbit
Editing: Argo
Make-Up: Holy Motors
Score: The Master
Song: Django Unchained
Sound Editing: Django Unchained
Sound Mixing: Zero Dark Thirty
Visual Effects: The Hobbit


Yay for Moonrise Kingdom. I also had Anderson for best director but I'm happy to see Affleck get it, if only as a fuck you to the Academy (not that I think any of the members are aware of this thread) .

I haven't seen Holy Motors, I can't remember if I voted for Cooper or Phoenix for best actor. I think it was Cooper after much deliberation.

Jennifer Lawrence was fantastic, happy to see her win although Williams would have been as deserving IMO

Amy Adams is another deserving winner, I found it really difficult to choose between her and Weaver but went for her in the end I think.

Supporting Actor was really tough, I would have been happy for either nominee to win

Either of the three would have been a worthy Original Screenplay winner. I think my vote went for Moonrise Kingdom

Silver Linings just pipped Argo for my Adapted Screenplay vote.

Wreck It Ralph was the best of a strong field so happy to see that get the nod

I think I voted for Moonrise for Art Direction so, again, happy to see that win.

Cinematography was nice in The Master but I think my vote went to Moonrise Kingdom

Costume Design was one of two awards I think the Hobbit deserved IMO

Had Argo for best editing as well so happy to see it win

The only other award I though Hobbit should have picked up from what I'd seen was Best Make up.

A worthy best song winner, I found it really difficult to choose between this and Abraham's Daughter so I'd have been happy for either of them to win. I think I voted Django for best sound editing and mixing as well but would have been happy for Argo to get editing and Skyfall to get mixing.

Hobbit for Visual Effects is a bit of a Lolwut for me. I thought it was alright in places yet atrocious in others. Properly, piss poor atrocious. I've only seen three of the nominees so went for Avengers just because the Hulk was fantastically rendered. It had some dodgy moments itself though. Prometheus had some good FX I guess but I thought the film was poor so it didn't really figure in my decision making.

Cheers for this rawls

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 26/2/2013 10:16:16 AM   
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This was really fun to do, looking forward to doing next year.

Surprised McConaughey didn't win actor seeing as how he'd got enough votes to be in both categories. I need to get round to Holy Motors and I'm guessing Moonrise Kingdom now.


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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 26/2/2013 11:47:24 AM   
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Apologies if you've already said, but is there a deadline for the next poll please? 

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RE: The 85th Empire Oscars - Winners - 26/2/2013 11:49:18 AM   
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Yep, the 10th

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