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ORIGINAL: Cool Breeze
Mattyb is a shining example of what the perfect Empire Forum member is.

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By all reports, and his own admission on Twitter, he's a pretty damn good shot with a gun.

I'm also assuming that if he hears something in the middle of the night, then he's going to have to attach his legs (you don't sleep with those things on...do you?), which is surely going to take a good couple of minutes in the pitch black and then he has to get his gun, go out and investigate.... and in all that time his girlfriend doesn't identify herself/he doesn't realise it's her?

Hm.

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ORIGINAL: MovieAddict247

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ORIGINAL: matty_b

By all reports, and his own admission on Twitter, he's a pretty damn good shot with a gun.

I'm also assuming that if he hears something in the middle of the night, then he's going to have to attach his legs (you don't sleep with those things on...do you?), which is surely going to take a good couple of minutes in the pitch black and then he has to get his gun, go out and investigate.... and in all that time his girlfriend doesn't identify herself/he doesn't realise it's her?

Hm.

Yeah, I was wondering about the legs thing - if he keeps a gun by his bed, as many people do in South Africa by the sounds of it, and heard a sound would he bother attaching his legs first or just fire blindly from his bed?

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I would plough my way through MonsterCat

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ORIGINAL: matty_b

I desire MonsterCat to go down on me.

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ORIGINAL: MovieAddict247

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ORIGINAL: matty_b

By all reports, and his own admission on Twitter, he's a pretty damn good shot with a gun.

I'm also assuming that if he hears something in the middle of the night, then he's going to have to attach his legs (you don't sleep with those things on...do you?), which is surely going to take a good couple of minutes in the pitch black and then he has to get his gun, go out and investigate.... and in all that time his girlfriend doesn't identify herself/he doesn't realise it's her?

Hm.

Yeah, I was wondering about the legs thing - if he keeps a gun by his bed, as many people do in South Africa by the sounds of it, and heard a sound would he bother attaching his legs first or just fire blindly from his bed?

But even then you'd have to assume that it wouldn't be the first time he'd been woken by a sound in the night, surely even the most nervous person doesn't immediately grab a gun and start shooting. Especially as firing blindly runs the risk of

A. Shooting the wrong person.

B. Missing the criminal and giving them reason to return fire.

So if he's trained with a gun, and the fear of crime is a familiar situation, surely he'd know better.

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First Lance and now Oscar...Sir Steve Redgrave next?
And I find the puns very distasteful .A young women was shot here remember?

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ORIGINAL: King_Bard

First Lance and now Oscar...Sir Steve Redgrave next?
And I find the puns very distasteful .A young women was shot here remember?

So your comment about Sir Steve Redgrave wasn't a pun then, you were being serious?

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With humour there is a line. Unfortunately that line is differently placed for every single person. Some of the tamer jokes on this forum will be met with horror by some. Others see nothing wrong with any of Frankie Boyle's jokes. When death and tragedy strike, humour will always be present. It's inescapable, a gallows humour of sorts, and there's not a lot to be done other than ignore what you dislike and enjoy what you do.

I would rather live in a world where we can endure people making bad jokes about horrific events, than live in a world where what we can or cannot say is censured to that extent. Obviously "freedom of speech" is trotted out as an excuse for people saying all sorts of prejudiced and narrowminded things, but there's a legal line that isn't in play here. You can't legislate against bad taste. You can just ignore it.

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First Lance and now Oscar...Sir Steve Redgrave next?
And I find the puns very distasteful .A young women was shot here remember?

So your comment about Sir Steve Redgrave wasn't a pun then, you were being serious?

Seriously? You are bringing me up on that?

Do you honestly think what I said was in any way distasteful?

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With humour there is a line. Unfortunately that line is differently placed for every single person. Some of the tamer jokes on this forum will be met with horror by some. Others see nothing wrong with any of Frankie Boyle's jokes. When death and tragedy strike, humour will always be present. It's inescapable, a gallows humour of sorts, and there's not a lot to be done other than ignore what you dislike and enjoy what you do.

I would rather live in a world where we can endure people making bad jokes about horrific events, than live in a world where what we can or cannot say is censured to that extent. Obviously "freedom of speech" is trotted out as an excuse for people saying all sorts of prejudiced and narrowminded things, but there's a legal line that isn't in play here. You can't legislate against bad taste. You can just ignore it.

I do agree, but immediately derailing a thread with them is another matter, but thats at the feet of the thread creator to decide?but as you say it's about what is acceptable and legal, as long as its applied to other areas, and we can all be third rate Frankie Boyles about everything, keeping it legal, then it's all good. I guess ignoring is easy, as long as you know and expect the tone in news threads to contain bad taste jokes. I guess perspective is needed too, I mean you wouldn't want a user jokingly using a thick footballers stereotype being compared to a step away from racism/discrimination would you, or being brought up on it by a couple of other users.

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ORIGINAL: homersimpson_esq

With humour there is a line. Unfortunately that line is differently placed for every single person. Some of the tamer jokes on this forum will be met with horror by some. Others see nothing wrong with any of Frankie Boyle's jokes. When death and tragedy strike, humour will always be present. It's inescapable, a gallows humour of sorts, and there's not a lot to be done other than ignore what you dislike and enjoy what you do.

I would rather live in a world where we can endure people making bad jokes about horrific events, than live in a world where what we can or cannot say is censured to that extent. Obviously "freedom of speech" is trotted out as an excuse for people saying all sorts of prejudiced and narrowminded things, but there's a legal line that isn't in play here. You can't legislate against bad taste. You can just ignore it.

I do agree, but immediately derailing a thread with them is another matter, but thats at the feet of the thread creator to decide?but as you say it's about what is acceptable and legal, as long as its applied to other areas, and we can all be third rate Frankie Boyles about everything, keeping it legal, then it's all good. I guess ignoring is easy, as long as you know and expect the tone in news threads to contain bad taste jokes. I guess perspective is needed too, I mean you wouldn't want a user jokingly using a thick footballers stereotype being compared to a step away from racism/discrimination would you, or being brought up on it by a couple of other users.

You would have loved the "boy pokes crocodile with stick" thread . I found that thread extremely distasteful but it did at least teach me that pretty much nothing is pun proof on this forum.

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Hey I just want to know what's acceptable, everything it seems apart from alluding Frank Lampard is thick or making negative statements about Colin Farrell . This forum has changed a lot since I was here in the orange days, I forget how much time has passed. Peace and love to all.

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Hey I just want to know what's acceptable, everything it seems apart from alluding Frank Lampard is thick or making negative statements about Colin Farrell . This forum has changed a lot since I was here in the orange days, I forget how much time has passed. Peace and love to all.

Oh it hasn't changed that much fella, there are still shed loads of annoying students on here...

Also, the Frank Lampard stuff is fine and completely acceptable, but that doesn't mean everyone agrees with it.

It would be even more boring on here (than it has become) if we all agreed about everything....

That deep-browed Homer ruled as his demesne.


TREK WARS

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Hey I just want to know what's acceptable, everything it seems apart from alluding Frank Lampard is thick or making negative statements about Colin Farrell . This forum has changed a lot since I was here in the orange days, I forget how much time has passed. Peace and love to all.

Oh it hasn't changed that much fella, there are still shed loads of annoying students on here...

Also, the Frank Lampard stuff is fine and completely acceptable, but that doesn't mean everyone agrees with it.

It would be even more boring on here (than it has become) if we all agreed about everything....

Because there's nothing boring about moaning about how boring it is compared to back in the day. Maybe that's cos back then nobody was moaning about how good it used to be... /winkyfacetoalleviatetensionandindicatejocularity

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Hey I just want to know what's acceptable, everything it seems apart from alluding Frank Lampard is thick or making negative statements about Colin Farrell . This forum has changed a lot since I was here in the orange days, I forget how much time has passed. Peace and love to all.

Oh it hasn't changed that much fella, there are still shed loads of annoying students on here...

Also, the Frank Lampard stuff is fine and completely acceptable, but that doesn't mean everyone agrees with it.

It would be even more boring on here (than it has become) if we all agreed about everything....

Because there's nothing boring about moaning about how boring it is compared to back in the day. Maybe that's cos back then nobody was moaning about how good it used to be... /winkyfacetoalleviatetensionandindicatejocularity

The mods were better back then too, from what I can see especially that Kanwar fellow, anyhow

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So this Oscar fellow....

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Because there's nothing boring about moaning about how boring it is compared to back in the day. Maybe that's cos back then nobody was moaning about how good it used to be... /winkyfacetoalleviatetensionandindicatejocularity

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So Oscars account is

He got up from bed where he was sleeping with Reeva to go outside.
He than heard something in the bathroom.
He was not with his legs so he grabbed his gun.
He than shot four times at the door.
He used the cricket bat to smash the door open realising Reeva was not in the bed he was previously sleeping in.
When he found her he carried her downstairs where she died.

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So Oscars account is

He got up from bed where he was sleeping with Reeva to go outside.
He than heard something in the bathroom.
He was not with his legs so he grabbed his gun.
He than shot four times at the door.
He used the cricket bat to smash the door open realising Reeva was not in the bed he was previously sleeping in.
When he found her he carried her downstairs where she died.

Yeah, I was reading about that earlier. It doesn't seem... entirely plausible. Not implausible, but it doesn't quite seem to add up to me. He didn't hear or notice she had left the bed and gone to the bathroom, but heard something in the bathroom and immediately leapt to the conclusion someone had climbed in through the toilet window? I don't think that would be my first thought. And apparently it's a conclusion he felt so convinced by that he grabbed his gun from under the bed (still not noticing his girlfriend wasn't in it), unloaded on the fucking toilet door while screaming for her to call the police and then UH OH SPAGHETTIO'S realises his gf isn't in the bed and it was her in the toilet. And why would you use a cricket bat to open a toilet door? What kind of door was it that he couldn't just put his Olympic athlete shoulders through it?

It all just seems a bit weird to me.

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People can kill comeone and still be genuinely distraught. Abusers eg are often extremely remorseful, esp if they attack when drunk. And, of course, self-pity can make you pretty upset too.

So I wouldn't put much on his courtroom behaviour tbh. It could be that, it could be other things.