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Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 13/2/2013 3:23:57 PM   
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This is making me giggle like a loon.

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 13/2/2013 3:46:47 PM   
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Lampard said the stories were "loosely based on friends and team mates"

There is no way this can be a kiddies book.

"And so EBLJT did his pee-pee in a pint glass cos he had drunk a little bit too much big footballer juice that night."

"And they all lived happily ever after. Apart from Choc-Ice* Coley who nearly crashed his car because daddy wouldn't give him more pocket money".


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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 13/2/2013 4:04:25 PM   
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Why is this funny? good luck to him... I bet they will be good stories too... Frank has an IQ of over 150 by the way.

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 13/2/2013 4:07:23 PM   
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Lampard said the stories were "loosely based on friends and team mates"



That bit made me laugh the most. I hope there's not a character based on John Terry.

Apparently Theo Walcott has written children's books too! Wtf?!

I look forward to Wayne Rooney's Adventures of Mr Potato Head.


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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 13/2/2013 4:24:35 PM   
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Why is this funny?


Well, because footballers have a reputation for being uncouth, alcohol-swilling, glamour model-roasting arseholes, propelled through life by bling and their hairy brains, and saddled with extremely limited vocabularies that involve dumbly repeating "At the end of the day..." each time they are interviewed as though it is a mantra.

In other words, not exactly Enid Blyton.

But forgive me for not being familiar with the particulars of Lampard's IQ (it being of no interest to me whatsoever). Still doesn't mean he will be a good children's author.


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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 13/2/2013 4:41:29 PM   
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I seriously doubt they're all like that, though.

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 13/2/2013 4:49:46 PM   
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I seriously doubt they're all like that, though.


I'm not suggesting they are. But a few of his team mates (that he is supposedly basing his tales on) have rather salty reputations, hence my mirth.

Also, it is just quite an unusual cross-over ... we're used to them becoming pundits or managers, not morphing into Beatrix Potter.

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 13/2/2013 5:27:00 PM   
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Excerpts from the book:

"Little JT kicked one of the boys. He was suspended from school for being a bold boy. JT was sad because he would miss the end of year class photograph. But nothing would stop JT! He turned up in his school uniform and posed in the picture front and centre."

"Another boy brushed against Big DD while he was walking to class. He fell to the ground and started rolling around. He asked the teacher to get an ambulance. When the ambulance arrived he got up and said he was fine."

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 13/2/2013 6:17:56 PM   
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Excerpts from the book:

"Little JT kicked one of the boys. He was suspended from school for being a bold boy. JT was sad because he would miss the end of year class photograph. But nothing would stop JT! He turned up in his school uniform and posed in the picture front and centre."

"Another boy brushed against Big DD while he was walking to class. He fell to the ground and started rolling around. He asked the teacher to get an ambulance. When the ambulance arrived he got up and said he was fine."




"Little JT got in an argument with a boy from another school, and it was thought he said such naughty things that it was in the local paper and policemen had to get involved! However the policemen decided to wait to speak to him until after the summer school championship. The school didn't do very well, but the policemen then decided that everything Little JT said in the argument had been a-okay, and everyone laughed and drank ginger beer."

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 13/2/2013 6:34:28 PM   
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It's not a series of cookbooks?

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 13/2/2013 7:32:18 PM   
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Why is this funny? good luck to him... I bet they will be good stories too... Frank has an IQ of over 150 by the way.


Just because he has a supposedly high IQ doesn't automatically qualify him for being an effective author. And good quality children's fiction requires more than just being able to string words together. Is he renowned for his creativity? Does he have an imagination? Although I commend him for saying that reading to his kids is important because there are too many parents who just can't be arsed. Maybe I'm being too harsh.

Although the trend of celebrities walking into publishing deals simply because they're a name......

Actually....maybe I shouldn't say anything. The last time I moaned on the forums about celebrities doing this I got roasted by a couple of other posters, who also happened to be mods. By "roasted" I don't mean in the biblical/footballer sense, of course, although it felt no less uncomfortable.

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 13/2/2013 8:13:39 PM   
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Just because he has a supposedly high IQ doesn't automatically qualify him for being an effective author. And good quality children's fiction requires more than just being able to string words together. Is he renowned for his creativity? Does he have an imagination? Although I commend him for saying that reading to his kids is important because there are too many parents who just can't be arsed. Maybe I'm being too harsh.

Although the trend of celebrities walking into publishing deals simply because they're a name......

Actually....maybe I shouldn't say anything. The last time I moaned on the forums about celebrities doing this I got roasted by a couple of other posters, who also happened to be mods. By "roasted" I don't mean in the biblical/footballer sense, of course, although it felt no less uncomfortable.


Well, for what it's worth, I agree. Publishers seem more interested in shifting stock than in producing high quality material. They know that a big name will garner publicity and that fans will flock to purchase. I can't imagine how frustrating this must be for the talented writers and illustrators out there desperately trying, and failing, to get a book deal. Especially when an unpublished professional footballer is handed a five-book deal straight off the bat.

Every time a celebrity with mediocre writing skills is published, the pool of quality in the market diminishes. We are the ones who suffer as a consequence.

For instance, I bought a couple of David Walliams' children's books as the blurbs were funny and the illustrations reminded me of the masterful Quentin Blake. They weren't terrible but I found his writing to be quite plodding; there was no flare. I genuinely doubt they'd have been published had he not already been well known, never mind that they'd be occupying the bestsellers list.

I've never tackled a Katie Price novel but I dread to think. The woman can barely string a sentence together. (And that is if they aren't all ghost written.)

Who knows; perhaps Lampard will produce excellent children's fiction - if he does I'll be thrilled and happily sing his praises. But I'll also be surprised; the last celebrity to triumph at everything he turned his hand to was Leonardo Da Vinci.

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 13/2/2013 9:00:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cloud Cuckoo


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Excerpts from the book:

"Little JT kicked one of the boys. He was suspended from school for being a bold boy. JT was sad because he would miss the end of year class photograph. But nothing would stop JT! He turned up in his school uniform and posed in the picture front and centre."

"Another boy brushed against Big DD while he was walking to class. He fell to the ground and started rolling around. He asked the teacher to get an ambulance. When the ambulance arrived he got up and said he was fine."




"Little JT got in an argument with a boy from another school, and it was thought he said such naughty things that it was in the local paper and policemen had to get involved! However the policemen decided to wait to speak to him until after the summer school championship. The school didn't do very well, but the policemen then decided that everything Little JT said in the argument had been a-okay, and everyone laughed and drank ginger beer."


"And then Little JT didn't call the other boy a black c*nt, but merely repeated back to him what he'd accused Little JT of saying. After that, they all realised how silly they'd been to get it wrong, and ate sherbert lemons and all played happily together!"

Fair play to Lampard I suppose, if he genuinely has a passion for it and a talent for writing for children then fair enough - good on him. I couldn't help laughing though. Calling his main character 'Frankie' did remind me of in Friends, when Joey made attempts to write movies and always named the characters 'Joseph'.

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 13/2/2013 9:31:25 PM   
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I couldn't help laughing though. Calling his main character 'Frankie' did remind me of in Friends, when Joey made attempts to write movies and always named the characters 'Joseph'.


It doesn't suggest the most fertile imagination, does it?

Either that or he's got one hell of an ego and this is his version of an autobiography...

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 14/2/2013 1:10:54 AM   
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Why is this funny? good luck to him... I bet they will be good stories too... Frank has an IQ of over 150 by the way.


Yeah same here. His team mates (yes Cashley and Terry) are massive knobs, but i quite like Lampard. He seems like a genuinely nice guy. I also have to echo Monster Cat's sentiments; not all footballers are twats


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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 15/2/2013 2:11:37 PM   
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Why is this funny?




In other words, not exactly Enid Blyton.





Although to be fair there's less racism in football....apparently

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 16/2/2013 8:50:45 PM   
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To be honest I don't understand why everyone's taking the piss, if it was John Terry or Ashley Cole I could understand why, but Lampard's always struck me as a proper professional, both on and off the field. Sure he's had a marriage break-up but that's hardly revolutionary these days is it?

He wants to write some children's books from his own experiences of reading stories to his kids, I don't see anything wrong with that, in fact if you put cynicism to bed for one moment, it's quite commendable. I wish him the best of luck with it.

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 16/2/2013 9:13:39 PM   
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Why is this funny?


Well, because footballers have a reputation for being uncouth, alcohol-swilling, glamour model-roasting arseholes, propelled through life by bling and their hairy brains, and saddled with extremely limited vocabularies that involve dumbly repeating "At the end of the day..." each time they are interviewed as though it is a mantra.

In other words, not exactly Enid Blyton.

But forgive me for not being familiar with the particulars of Lampard's IQ (it being of no interest to me whatsoever). Still doesn't mean he will be a good children's author.



Wow. Talk about pigeon holing. It's funny what we can get away with, replace the word footballer with the word "Jewish" or "Asian" and all of a sudden your comments are offensive.


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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 16/2/2013 9:15:45 PM   
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He'll need something to keep him occupied when his football career ends. I doubt he'll need the money, but he'll need the stimulation.

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 17/2/2013 5:19:26 AM   
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Wow. Talk about pigeon holing. It's funny what we can get away with, replace the word footballer with the word "Jewish" or "Asian" and all of a sudden your comments are offensive.



Oh my God are you fucking SERIOUS? I find that so offensive and incredulous I can hardly gather my senses to respond.

"It's funny what we can get away with"? My words are fine. Yours are disgusting.

I referenced a common and accepted cultural stereotype of a celebrity profession. I did not attack a race, gender, sexuality, religion or physical dis/ability, which is illegal. The comparison is redundant. The inference that I would discriminate against a minority because I referenced a career-based stereotype Is OFFENSIVE in the EXTREME.

I sincerely hope that you modify your comments a.s.a.p. - I am a decent person and will not be implicated in ANY way with anti-Semitism or racism, or prejudice of any sort.


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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 17/2/2013 8:55:24 AM   
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Wow. Talk about pigeon holing. It's funny what we can get away with, replace the word footballer with the word "Jewish" or "Asian" and all of a sudden your comments are offensive.



Oh my God are you fucking SERIOUS? I find that so offensive and incredulous I can hardly gather my senses to respond.

"It's funny what we can get away with"? My words are fine. Yours are disgusting.

I referenced a common and accepted cultural stereotype of a celebrity profession. I did not attack a race, gender, sexuality, religion or physical dis/ability, which is illegal. The comparison is redundant. The inference that I would discriminate against a minority because I referenced a career-based stereotype Is OFFENSIVE in the EXTREME.

I sincerely hope that you modify your comments a.s.a.p. - I am a decent person and will not be implicated in ANY way with anti-Semitism or racism, or prejudice of any sort.



You've actually only gone on to further prove my point. I didn't say you were racist, I said it's funny that people, (not just you) feel that stereotypes such as that in your post are acceptable because it isn't a race, religion, or gender being mentioned. That somehow because (in this case) footballers are being discussed it's ok to discriminate. That because (to reference your above post) what you are doing isn't illegal it's somehow still acceptable. As I say you've based this on an incorrect stereotype about footballers that you feel is acceptable, yet no doubt if this was a certain stereotype about a certain race being rather good with numeracy you'd be (quite rightly) up in arms and not basing any opinion on it.

To be prejudice or to discriminate means to make an unjust or prejudicial distinction in the treatment of different categories of people, in this case stating that all footballers are idiots, only care about bling, and they can't and shouldn't write books, and any attempt to do so is laughable. You then go on to admit you know nothing of Frank Lampard and based this on your ill perceptions of footballers.

By the by I couldn't really care less if Frank Lampard is writing children's books, and I wasn't offended by your post either, I was merely using your post to make an observation.



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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 17/2/2013 5:02:20 PM   
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You've actually only gone on to further prove my point. I didn't say you were racist, I said it's funny that people, (not just you) feel that stereotypes such as that in your post are acceptable because it isn't a race, religion, or gender being mentioned. That somehow because (in this case) footballers are being discussed it's ok to discriminate. That because (to reference your above post) what you are doing isn't illegal it's somehow still acceptable. As I say you've based this on an incorrect stereotype about footballers that you feel is acceptable, yet no doubt if this was a certain stereotype about a certain race being rather good with numeracy you'd be (quite rightly) up in arms and not basing any opinion on it.

To be prejudice or to discriminate means to make an unjust or prejudicial distinction in the treatment of different categories of people, in this case stating that all footballers are idiots, only care about bling, and they can't and shouldn't write books, and any attempt to do so is laughable. You then go on to admit you know nothing of Frank Lampard and based this on your ill perceptions of footballers.

By the by I couldn't really care less if Frank Lampard is writing children's books, and I wasn't offended by your post either, I was merely using your post to make an observation.




At no point did I state that all footballers are idiots, that they only care about bling and that they "can't and shouldn't write books". I explained that the notion of professional footballers becoming children's authors was comical because of their reputation, which I then described - scroll up and you will see.

People develop preconceived notions based on precedents. In this instance, the stereotype of footballers has arisen from antics widely reported in the press, e.g. the notorious 'dentist's chair' photographs preceding Euro '96, which were even referenced by the England team in a goal celebration during the tournament, thus endorsing their own stereotype. I have never stated that this applies to all footballers; indeed scroll up and you will see I have already made this distinction.

Frank Lampard stated he was basing his children's stories on "friends and team mates". Given some of his team mates have been in the press for less than reputable behaviour, I found this comical. It wasn't based on unfounded prejudice (thanks) but on reported facts.

When it comes to groups of people suffering from unjust discrimination, I don't think professional footballers are the most in need of defence. Why not take this over to the Oscar Pistorius thread, where people are making jokes about an accused murderer based on his disability?


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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 18/2/2013 12:42:46 PM   
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You've actually only gone on to further prove my point. I didn't say you were racist, I said it's funny that people, (not just you) feel that stereotypes such as that in your post are acceptable because it isn't a race, religion, or gender being mentioned. That somehow because (in this case) footballers are being discussed it's ok to discriminate. That because (to reference your above post) what you are doing isn't illegal it's somehow still acceptable. As I say you've based this on an incorrect stereotype about footballers that you feel is acceptable, yet no doubt if this was a certain stereotype about a certain race being rather good with numeracy you'd be (quite rightly) up in arms and not basing any opinion on it.

To be prejudice or to discriminate means to make an unjust or prejudicial distinction in the treatment of different categories of people, in this case stating that all footballers are idiots, only care about bling, and they can't and shouldn't write books, and any attempt to do so is laughable. You then go on to admit you know nothing of Frank Lampard and based this on your ill perceptions of footballers.

By the by I couldn't really care less if Frank Lampard is writing children's books, and I wasn't offended by your post either, I was merely using your post to make an observation.




At no point did I state that all footballers are idiots, that they only care about bling and that they "can't and shouldn't write books". I explained that the notion of professional footballers becoming children's authors was comical because of their reputation, which I then described - scroll up and you will see.

People develop preconceived notions based on precedents. In this instance, the stereotype of footballers has arisen from antics widely reported in the press, e.g. the notorious 'dentist's chair' photographs preceding Euro '96, which were even referenced by the England team in a goal celebration during the tournament, thus endorsing their own stereotype. I have never stated that this applies to all footballers; indeed scroll up and you will see I have already made this distinction.

Frank Lampard stated he was basing his children's stories on "friends and team mates". Given some of his team mates have been in the press for less than reputable behaviour, I found this comical. It wasn't based on unfounded prejudice (thanks) but on reported facts.

When it comes to groups of people suffering from unjust discrimination, I don't think professional footballers are the most in need of defence. Why not take this over to the Oscar Pistorius thread, where people are making jokes about an accused murderer based on his disability?



I don't think they were endorsing it, I always thought they were taking the piss out of the massive over-reaction of the press to a relatively harmless incident and sending a 'fuck you' to the papers who, as in 1990, were hell-bent on causing trouble and derailing the team's chances in the tournament.
Basically, the tabloids have a lot to answer for when it comes to stereotypes about modern footballers.

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 18/2/2013 2:05:33 PM   
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To be honest I don't understand why everyone's taking the piss, if it was John Terry or Ashley Cole I could understand why, but Lampard's always struck me as a proper professional, both on and off the field. Sure he's had a marriage break-up but that's hardly revolutionary these days is it?

He wants to write some children's books from his own experiences of reading stories to his kids, I don't see anything wrong with that, in fact if you put cynicism to bed for one moment, it's quite commendable. I wish him the best of luck with it.



Exactly how I feel... I think it's a lovely idea actually... and I still don't understand the piss taking. Each to their own.

CC must think all footballers are complete morons.

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 18/2/2013 2:52:37 PM   
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To be honest I don't understand why everyone's taking the piss, if it was John Terry or Ashley Cole I could understand why, but Lampard's always struck me as a proper professional, both on and off the field. Sure he's had a marriage break-up but that's hardly revolutionary these days is it?

He wants to write some children's books from his own experiences of reading stories to his kids, I don't see anything wrong with that, in fact if you put cynicism to bed for one moment, it's quite commendable. I wish him the best of luck with it.



Exactly how I feel... I think it's a lovely idea actually... and I still don't understand the piss taking. Each to their own.

CC must think all footballers are complete morons.


I agree we shouldn't mock poor Frank, at least wait until he's shot his girlfriend to death before taking the piss.

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 18/2/2013 3:26:25 PM   
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To be honest I don't understand why everyone's taking the piss, if it was John Terry or Ashley Cole I could understand why, but Lampard's always struck me as a proper professional, both on and off the field. Sure he's had a marriage break-up but that's hardly revolutionary these days is it?

He wants to write some children's books from his own experiences of reading stories to his kids, I don't see anything wrong with that, in fact if you put cynicism to bed for one moment, it's quite commendable. I wish him the best of luck with it.



Exactly how I feel... I think it's a lovely idea actually... and I still don't understand the piss taking. Each to their own.

CC must think all footballers are complete morons.


I don't understand the comparisons to Enid Blyton either.

Taking it well out of context there aren't we? He's probably going to write one or two series of very light-hearted books aimed mainly at kids who like football.

I don't think he's trying to win a Booker Prize.

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 18/2/2013 3:29:19 PM   
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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 18/2/2013 3:34:48 PM   
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I don't think they give the Turner prize for books, Goodfella.


It might be a book with pictures. You know what I meant. ;)

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 18/2/2013 7:46:23 PM   
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CC must think all footballers are complete morons.


I don't understand the comparisons to Enid Blyton either.

Taking it well out of context there aren't we? He's probably going to write one or two series of very light-hearted books aimed mainly at kids who like football.

I don't think he's trying to win a Booker Prize.


Oh for crying out loud!! How many times do I have to repeat myself, or are you just not reading any of the above??

a) Lampard said he was basing his stories on "friends and team mates" - given his team mates include John Terry and Ashley Cole, I found this funny. They are hardly fodder for children's fiction.

b) Going from being a professional footballer to being a children's author is quite a surprising and unexpected career change - they have nothing in common. We're used to seeing footballers become pundits or managers. Enid Blyton was simply the first children's author to pop into my head, hence the example.

I never suggested at any point he was aiming for the Orange Prize for Children's Fiction! And I have now stated several times that I do not think that all footballers are morons. I am a football supporter myself. However the stereotype exists, so I referenced it.

Jesus Christ please let me not have to explain this again.

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RE: Frank Lampard writes about magic footballs (really) - 18/2/2013 9:00:51 PM   
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CC, the problem here is that football fans are even less intelligent than footballers.

*lights touch paper*

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