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You've actually only gone on to further prove my point. I didn't say you were racist, I said it's funny that people, (not just you) feel that stereotypes such as that in your post are acceptable because it isn't a race, religion, or gender being mentioned. That somehow because (in this case) footballers are being discussed it's ok to discriminate. That because (to reference your above post) what you are doing isn't illegal it's somehow still acceptable. As I say you've based this on an incorrect stereotype about footballers that you feel is acceptable, yet no doubt if this was a certain stereotype about a certain race being rather good with numeracy you'd be (quite rightly) up in arms and not basing any opinion on it.
To be prejudice or to discriminate means to make an unjust or prejudicial distinction in the treatment of different categories of people, in this case stating that all footballers are idiots, only care about bling, and they can't and shouldn't write books, and any attempt to do so is laughable. You then go on to admit you know nothing of Frank Lampard and based this on your ill perceptions of footballers.
By the by I couldn't really care less if Frank Lampard is writing children's books, and I wasn't offended by your post either, I was merely using your post to make an observation.
At no point did I state that all footballers are idiots, that they only care about bling and that they "can't and shouldn't write books". I explained that the notion of professional footballers becoming children's authors was comical because of their reputation, which I then described - scroll up and you will see.
People develop preconceived notions based on precedents. In this instance, the stereotype of footballers has arisen from antics widely reported in the press, e.g. the notorious 'dentist's chair' photographs preceding Euro '96, which were even referenced by the England team in a goal celebration during the tournament, thus endorsing their own stereotype. I have never stated that this applies to all footballers; indeed scroll up and you will see I have already made this distinction.
Frank Lampard stated he was basing his children's stories on "friends and team mates". Given some of his team mates have been in the press for less than reputable behaviour, I found this comical. It wasn't based on unfounded prejudice (thanks) but on reported facts.
When it comes to groups of people suffering from unjust discrimination, I don't think professional footballers are the most in need of defence. Why not take this over to the Oscar Pistorius thread, where people are making jokes about an accused murderer based on his disability?
I don't think they were endorsing it, I always thought they were taking the piss out of the massive over-reaction of the press to a relatively harmless incident and sending a 'fuck you' to the papers who, as in 1990, were hell-bent on causing trouble and derailing the team's chances in the tournament.
Basically, the tabloids have a lot to answer for when it comes to stereotypes about modern footballers.
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