Shifty Bench
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ORIGINAL: Phubbs Yes yes I know this -_- what I mean is for a franchise like Die Hard that kind of rating just doesn't cut the mustard with the hardcore fans, the loyal fans, plus (as has been proved) I really can't see how a 12A Die Hard could be any good. Look at the kiddie 'Robocop 3' back in the day, the childish 'Terminator 3', the recent 'Total Recall' remake etc...a child rating for a known adult franchise just doesn't work and I'm reasonably positive the new 'Robocop' film will be the same. Loyal adult fans will look at a rating for certain films and pass it by if its not for adults, especially these days with most modern films known to be poor, many have learnt their lessons now. I'm a hardcore Die Hard fan! I love that movie to death, it's in my top ten but if it was made to be a 12A and not cut to be a 12A, it wouldn't really bother me. I'm not angry at the certificate, I'm angry at what they did to it to get the certificate. Also, you think because the film is a 12A is why people are saying it sucks gonads? It is rated R in the US and it's still getting torn to shreds over there. 12A or 15, cut or uncut, it is (apparently) a piece of crap. Oh and Terminator 3 was rated R in the US. quote:
If the new Robo is anything less than an 18 rating here in the UK I won't go, simple as that. Robo isn't for kids and it won't be a good flick if its watered down, and yes if its less than an 18 it WILL be watered down. It won't be an 18, that's for damn sure. If it's rated R (which I doubt) it'll be a 15. In fact, it may be 15 even if it's PG-13. quote:
The old Die Hard films and Lethal Weapon etc...might be only 15 ratings now but back in the day they were made as adult films. I'm sure there are adult films these days that will be brought down in another 30yrs or so, but the fact is they were made and intended to be adult films in their time, their time of release. I still think this is a pretty weird view-point, times have changed and things that were once considered too violent are getting more acceptable. Headbutts for example, used to be cut out of even 15s but are now allowed in PGs. Don't you think it is great that a film like Die Hard with its brains hitting a glass doorand Lethal Weapon 2 with a scene that was once edited out from the 18 version are now rated 15? I do, it's awesome. Also, you keep using the term 'adult' which makes me think of porn. quote:
I'm still amazed we get 18 rated horror films still because most actions films just aren't anymore. I think they are afraid to give 18 certs, even 'Gangster Squad' is 15 and that is highly violent! its bizarre. But isn't this a good thing????? It means the BBFC are getting more lenient with their ratings, It's why De Hard 5 has four used of the f-word in it. Again, your logic is slightly baffling. You are complaining that a violent film has been given a 15? If they gave it an 18, it would still be same film, absolutely nothing would be different. The BBFC don't sit around conjuring up new ways to piss action fans off, they study every single film very carefully with their wee checklist and go over every film with a fine tooth comb. And again, standards have changed and I think it is actually great that a film has to try hard to be an 18 these days. Dredd was relentless in its violence and got an 18 and while it was admittedly refreshing to see it get such a rating, when an action film gets a lower one, I won't lose sleep over it.
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ORIGINAL: matty_b You have a nice face, Shifty. A face I would have a cup of tea with. quote:
ORIGINAL: porntrooper Shifty said it best
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