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BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 5:46:09 PM

Hood_Man

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BBC News 24 re currently showing live coverage of the Red Carpet, anyone watching?

Who are your favourites tonight?

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 6:03:52 PM

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I genuinely did not know they were on tonight until earlier today.

I live in a bubble, it's a bit cramped and smelly but I can still get wifi in here to download books on my Kindle, so at least I'm not bored.....

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 6:15:29 PM

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Anyone prepared to bet against Daniel Day Lewis for Best Lead Actor?

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 6:53:45 PM

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They really need to start showing this live, doubt it will be as entertaining as this years Globes. I'm sure they'll edit out Best Foreign language (forgot the stupid title they give it) again

Predictions #####

Best picture
Argo
Les Miserables
Life of Pi
Lincoln #####
Zero Dark Thirty

Best British film
Anna Karenina
The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel
Les Miserables #####
Seven Psychopaths
Skyfall

Best foreign Language
Amour #####
Headhunters
The Hunt
Rust and Bone
Untouchable

Best director
Ben Affleck, Argo #####
Kathryn Bigelow, Zero Dark Thirty
Michael Haneke, Amour
Ang Lee, Life of Pi
Quentin Tarantino, Django Unchained

Best actor
Ben Affleck, Argo
Bradley Cooper, Silver Linings Playbook
Daniel Day-Lewis, Lincoln #####
Hugh Jackman, Les Miserables
Joaquin Phoenix, The Master

Best actress
Jessica Chastain, Zero Dark Thirty #####
Marion Cotillard, Rust and Bone
Jennifer Lawrence, Silver Linings Playbook
Helen Mirren, Hitchcock
Emmanuelle Riva, Amour

Best supporting actor
Alan Arkin, Argo
Javier Bardem, Skyfal l#####
Philip Seymour Hoffman, The Master
Tommy Lee Jones, Lincoln
Christoph Waltz, Django Unchained

Best supporting actress
Amy Adams, The Master
Judi Dench, Skyfall
Sally Field, Lincoln
Anne Hathaway, Les Miserables #####
Helen Hunt, The Sessions

Best original screenplay
Paul Thomas Anderson, The Master
Wes Anderson and Roman Coppola, Moonrise Kingdom
Mark Boal Zero Dark Thirty
Michael Haneke, Amour #####
Quentin Tarantino, Django Unchained

Best adapted screenplay
Lucy Alibar and Benh Zeitlin, Beasts of the Southern Wild
Tony Kushner, Lincoln
David Magee, Life of Pi
David O. Russell, Silver Linings Playbook
Chris Terrio, Argo #####

Best documentary
The Imposter: Bart Layton, Dimitri Doganis #####
Marley: Kevin Macdonald, Steve Bing, Charles Steel
McCullin: David Morris, Jacqui Morris
Searching for Sugar Man: Malik Bendjelloul, Simon Chinn
West of Memphis: Amy Berg

Best animation
Brave: Mark Andrews, Brenda Chapman
Frankenweenie: Tim Burton #####
ParaNorman: Sam Fell, Chris Butler

Best cinematography
Danny Cohen, Les Miserables
Roger Deakins, Skyfall
Janusz Kaminski, Lincoln
Seamus McGarvey, Anna Karenina #####
Claudio Miranda, Life of Pi

Outstanding debut by a British writer, director or producer
Bart Layton (Director), Dimitri Doganis (Producer), The Imposter
David Morris (Director), Jacqui Morris (Director/Producer), McCullin
Dexter Fletcher (Director/Writer), Danny King (Writer), Wild Bill #####
James Bobin (Director), The Muppets
Tina Gharavi (Director/Writer), I Am Nasrine

The EE Rising Star award (voted for by public)
Elizabeth Olsen
Andrea Riseborough #####
Suraj Sharma
Juno Temple
Alicia Vikander

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 8:14:38 PM

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My predictions and who should win

Best Film
Will Win - Argo
Should Win - Zero Dark Thirty

Outstanding British Film
Will Win - Skyfall
Should Win - Les Miserables

Outstanding British Debut
Will Win - David Morris and Jacqui Morris (Mcculln)
Should win - Bart Layton and Dimitri Doganis (The Imposter)

Film Not in the English Language
Will Win - Rust and Bone
Should Win - Rust and Bone

Documentary
Will Win - Marley
Should Win The Imposter

Animated Film
Will Win - Brave
Should Win - Paranorman

Director
Will Win - Ben Affleck
Should Win - Kathryn Bigelow

Original Screenplay
Will Win - Quentin Taratino (if not Boal)
Should Win - Paul Thomas Anderson (The Master)

Adapted Screenplay
Will Win - Tony Kushner (Lincoln)
Should Win - David O. Russell (Silver Linings Playbook)

Leading Actor
Will Win - Daniel Day-Lewis (Lincoln)
Should Win - Joaquin Phoenix (The Master)

Leading Actress
Will Win - Jennifer Lawrence (Silver Linings Playbook)
Should Win - Jennifer Lawrence (would be happy if either Chastain or Cotillerd won too)

Supporting Actor
Will Win - Javier Bardem (Skyfall)
Should Win - Philip Seymour Hoffman (The Master)

Supporting Actress
Will Win - Anne Hathaway (Les Miserables)
Should Win - Helen Hunt (The Sessions)

Original Music
Will Win - John Williams (Lincoln)
Should Win - Alexandre Desplat (Argo)

Cinematography
Will Win - Roger Deakins (Skyfall)
Should Win - Danny Cohen (Les Miserables)

Editing
Will Win - Dylan Tichenor, William Goldenberg (Zero Dark Thirty)
Should Win - same

Production Design
Will Win - Dennis Gassner, Anna Pinnock (Skyfall)
Should Win - Eve Stewart, Anna Lynch-Robinson (Les Miserables)

Costume Design
Will Win - Jacqueline Durran (Anna Karenina)
Should Win - Paco Delgado (Les Miserables)

Make Up and Hair
Will Win - Lisa Westcott (Les Miserables)
Should Win - Peter Swords King, Richard Taylor, Rick Findlater (The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey)

Sound
Will Win - Stuart Wilson, Scott Millan, Greg P. Russell, Per Hallberg, Karen Baker Landers (Skyfall)
Should Win - Simon Hayes, Andy Nelson, Mark Peters, Jonathan Allen, Lee Walpole, John Warhurst (Les Miserables)

Special Visual Effects
Will Win - Joe Letteri, Eric Saindon, David Clayton, R. Christopher White (The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey)
Should Win - Bill Westenhofer, Guillaume Rocheron, Erik-Jan De Boer (Life of Pi)

Short Animation
Will Win - The Making of Longbird
Should Win - I'm Fine Thanks

Short Film
Will Win - Swimmer
Should Win - The Curse

Rising Star Award
Will Win - Andrea Riseborough
Should Win - Elizabeth Olsen (PLEASE GOD IF THERES ANY JUSTICE!!)

Will try and catch up on i-player later if the BEEB puts it up.

Should be an interesting night, it seems pretty wide open this year.

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 9:40:59 PM

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I remember when the Baftas used to be varied and interesting. Do they have the same voter base as the Academy now?

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 9:56:26 PM

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Does anyone know why this isn't shown live by the way?

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 10:02:03 PM

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Does anyone know why this isn't shown live by the way?

Is it not on now on BBC1?

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 10:09:25 PM

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We're even getting it live here in NZ. So far, fairly boringly predictable.

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 10:10:03 PM

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Does anyone know why this isn't shown live by the way?

Is it not on now on BBC1?

The ceremony started at 7, this is a tape delay.

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 10:10:10 PM

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If it's still on then it's not live - it finished about 9 or so our time.

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 10:14:27 PM

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The Baftas used to be after the Oscars, nobody cared. The ridiculous nature of the release dates also meant that films often weren't eligible at the Baftas until the year after they appeared at the Oscars. The move to before the Oscars has meant it's increasingly seen as an important precursor award, rather than the one that gave best actor of the year trophies to Jamie Bell and Hugh Grant. It also means that the push for the films likely to score at the Oscars is more intense.

The best possible result of this awards season is the hope it leads to the Academy looking silly and overhauling their voting process.

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 10:18:44 PM

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But they got the director omissions right IMO. The 'up yours' votes elsewhere don't change that for me.

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 10:27:26 PM

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Personal opinion doesn't really enter into it though. The simple fact is that the film and the man sweeping all the precursors can't possibly win best director at the Oscars. That's a huge embarrassment and makes the Academy look very much out of step. So right now there's either the situation where Argo doesn't win best picture, and it's pretty much the biggest upset loss ever at the Oscars, or it does win best picture and they look ridiculous with Affleck not being able to take director. It's not even the same as when Driving Miss Daisy won without a director nom, because it wasn't sweeping everything beforehand, and places like the DGA also didn't nominate it.

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 10:40:27 PM

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What I find quite interesting is that even if all these Guilds rate it (including that odd acting ensemble award) - how did it manage to miss the director nom.

I kind of look at it the other way - difference can be healthy. Of course, that might be emphasised for me here because I'm still baffled Argo is seen as award-worthy, but it's exactly the thing I'm sorry to see go from Bafta.

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 10:44:35 PM

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The Baftas used to be after the Oscars, nobody cared. The ridiculous nature of the release dates also meant that films often weren't eligible at the Baftas until the year after they appeared at the Oscars. The move to before the Oscars has meant it's increasingly seen as an important precursor award, rather than the one that gave best actor of the year trophies to Jamie Bell and Hugh Grant. It also means that the push for the films likely to score at the Oscars is more intense.

The best possible result of this awards season is the hope it leads to the Academy looking silly and overhauling their voting process.

In fairness, they have looked silly for many, many years now.

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 10:49:16 PM

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So... Argo has Best Film & Director at the BAFTA's...

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 10:50:24 PM

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Yay for Ben Affleck!

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 10:53:10 PM

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What I find quite interesting is that even if all these Guilds rate it (including that odd acting ensemble award) - how did it manage to miss the director nom.

Because of the odd nominations system.

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I kind of look at it the other way - difference can be healthy. Of course, that might be emphasised for me here because I'm still baffled Argo is seen as award-worthy, but it's exactly the thing I'm sorry to see go from Bafta.

To be fair, you've disliked most of the best films of the last year, from Django to Silver Linings to Paperman. Your taste kinda sucks.

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 11:09:46 PM

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On another note, wonderful to see Emanuelle Riva win Best Actress for her heartbreaking performance in Amour.
As far as Argo is concerned, I thought it and its director were worthy winners, and it was such a pleasure to see that the academy didn't for once go with the boringly predictable choice. That being said, however, I think I'd probably have been just as happy to see Life Of Pi win.
Also, delighted to see Stephen Fry back fronting the show rather than that horrendous Ross creature.

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 11:28:07 PM

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It's nice to see Stephen Fry looking slimmer too. He was a whale at last year's ceremony, but he looks much healthier now

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 10/2/2013 11:40:34 PM

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Apparently David O russell pulled a serious "what the fuck!" face at one of the results, did anyone see when that was?

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 11/2/2013 12:06:58 AM

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It was just after Emmanuelle Riva won best actress for Amour. Presumably he pulled it because Jennifer Lawrence didn't win.

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 11/2/2013 12:06:59 AM

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Riva winning Best Actress - it's online all over the place

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 11/2/2013 12:26:11 AM

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It's nice to see Stephen Fry looking slimmer too. He was a whale at last year's ceremony, but he looks much healthier now

No offence intended Hood_Man, but that's the single most shallow, unnecessary and pointless comment I've seen on these boards. Who gives a flying monkey fuck what Stephen Fry's weight is?!

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 11/2/2013 1:06:53 AM

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SKYFALL is...

A) Not the best British film of the year.

B) Not a British film.

C) Not even the best Bond film.

D) The most overrated film in recordable history.

The answer is E) All Of The Above.

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 11/2/2013 7:53:07 AM

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Well, many others disagree.

So tough shit.

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 11/2/2013 9:29:24 AM

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SKYFALL is...

A) Not the best British film of the year.

B) Not a British film.

C) Not even the best Bond film.

D) The most overrated film in recordable history.

The answer is E) All Of The Above.

Your wrong on some many levels there pal.

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 11/2/2013 10:39:55 AM

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It's nice to see Stephen Fry looking slimmer too. He was a whale at last year's ceremony, but he looks much healthier now

No offence intended Hood_Man, but that's the single most shallow, unnecessary and pointless comment I've seen on these boards. Who gives a flying monkey fuck what Stephen Fry's weight is?!

Who cares? How about someone who suffers from depression and knows how difficult it is to struggle with weight problems, and was concerned for Stephen Fry's health when he saw how big he was last year?

That also wasn't the most pointless post you've read on here, don't even try to justify that. The hyperbole isn't fooling anyone.

But thank you for saying no offense though, otherwise I might very well have taken offence at someone swearing at me and calling me shallow, and making nasty ignorant judgements about my character. I might even have mistaken you for another hit and run internet white knight.

But sure, no offence taken.

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RE: BAFTA's 2013 - 11/2/2013 11:54:34 AM

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I wonder if anyone else feels ambivalent about the award dished out?

I mean, I really enjoyed Argo and Affleck made a great leading man - dude, why cut your hair and have it slicked up? You looked better in the film! Or is that a stupid shallow comment.

But my point is, a quick look up on wiki and you find the events of the film didn't pan out as showed in the climax - there was no suspicion at the airport, let a lone a chase along the runway!

Ditto Silver Linings, I enjoyed it a lot and good to see De Niro not phoning it in. But really, bipolar can be 'cured' with the love of a good woman? If so, that's Stephen Fry stuffed then...

Lincoln? Said to be hard work. I've not seen it, and am unlikely to now I've eventually nailed it: Daniel Day Lewis is simply channelling that bearded old codger and founder of the bank in Mary Poppins, the one it turns out is played by Dick van Dyke and ends up carking it when a joke causes him to lift out of his chair and up to the ceiling.

Django Unchained I loved - except the 'coda' which is pure fantasy and hokum, I did go off it at that point. Plus there's that story about QT on imdb, about how he cast an actor and made him think he had the role locked down, then pulled him out - a 'prank' based on the fact that years ago the actor turned down the role of Marcellus Wallace. QT: such a nice guy, I don't think.

Skyfall is divisive, the plot holes are such you could drive the Liparus supertanker through them. Plus Bond fails in most of his mission. Still, it's patriotic isn't it!

Still, watching it made me want to see a few I haven't: Dark Zero Thirty and Les Mis, plus Searching for Sugar Man and Beasts of the Southern Wild. But with stuff like Armour, it's been quite a depressing or at least sobering year in a way.

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