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'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers' and... - 18/1/2013 11:05:40 PM   
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http://collider.com/tom-hanks-steven-spielberg-masters-of-the-air/

Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg are back together producing the third in their series of World War II epic tv shows. This time focusing on a group of fighter pilots.
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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 19/1/2013 11:18:43 AM   
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Just came to post this now, but I've been beaten to it by a day!

Exciting news, although I have to admit I was not a fan of The Pacific as much as I tried to be. I had been SO excited about it before that came out.

Anyway will look forward to hearing about the further development of this.

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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 20/1/2013 9:49:45 AM   
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Oh, brilliant news.

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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 20/1/2013 12:15:11 PM   
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Try as I might, I just can't get too excited about this news. The Pacific was such a disappointment that it's broken my enthusiasm for it all. Hopefully that'll mean I'll be pleasantly surprised by it when it starts.

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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 20/1/2013 7:12:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: superdan

Try as I might, I just can't get too excited about this news. The Pacific was such a disappointment that it's broken my enthusiasm for it all. Hopefully that'll mean I'll be pleasantly surprised by it when it starts.


Conversely, the disappointment of The Pacific has made me even more excited about this news because I figure they must learn from their mistakes? The patchy narrative and jumping around the place will hopefully not have a place in the new series, and additionally, it follows on the Eighth Air Force which should make it far more focused.

Just my thinking anyway.

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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 20/1/2013 7:37:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sway


quote:

ORIGINAL: superdan

Try as I might, I just can't get too excited about this news. The Pacific was such a disappointment that it's broken my enthusiasm for it all. Hopefully that'll mean I'll be pleasantly surprised by it when it starts.


Conversely, the disappointment of The Pacific has made me even more excited about this news because I figure they must learn from their mistakes? The patchy narrative and jumping around the place will hopefully not have a place in the new series, and additionally, it follows on the Eighth Air Force which should make it far more focused.

Just my thinking anyway.


God I hope so. And I hope it finds the time to inject at least a little bit of levity into the proceedings. The Pacific was so bleak, so po-faced and humourless it made The Killing look like bloody Arrested Development.

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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 21/1/2013 8:52:41 AM   
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I'm guess one of those in the minority who enjoyed The Pacific. It did have structural problems and some of the characterisation was a bit thin but overall it thought it was very good (still not as good as Band of Brothers - but what could be?)

This could well be awesome. Will be looking forward to it

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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 21/1/2013 9:58:11 AM   
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It's going to be tricky to do the miniseries following one single bomber crew considering the amount of subject matter that I think the miniseries will cover. I have Donald L. Miller's Eighth Air Force and it is a wonderfully comprehensive account of the bombing campaigns including the difference in tactics between the RAF's Bomber Harris' 'City Busting' and the USAF's more tactical bombing raids.

The book charts several missions of multiple American bomber crews, not to mention more controversial raids such as Schweinfurt-Regensburg and Dresden. It also has a great chapter on how the presence of the American forces transformed formerly sleepy East Anglian villages. There's even a section of Jimmy Stewart, who had a distinguished career in the USAF. However considering most crews did 25 raids before being allowed to go home, I think the series will focus on multiple bombers with the main focus being on Robert 'Rosie' Rosenthal, who received sixteen awards including the Distinguished Service Cross for "extraordinary heroism in connection with military operations against the enemy," the Silver Star (with cluster) for "gallantry in action," the Distinguished Flying Cross (with cluster) for "heroism or extraordinary achievement during aerial flight," the Air Medal (with seven clusters) and the Purple Heart (with cluster), as well as the Distinguished Flying Cross from Great Britain and the Croix de Guerre from France.

Think of him as the 'Winters of the Air'.

Famously, on his third mission out, with a squadron of 13 B-17s, his was the only plane to return. And that was with a massive hole in the wing. He was also shot down, but managed to make it back home thanks to the French Resistance.

Of course, this is me speculating, but the man's story is impressive to say the least. I'd also expect Bomber Harris' controversial tactics to feature heavily, but also how the RAF and USAF worked together, especially when it came to the introduction of bomber escorts.






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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 21/1/2013 10:07:08 AM   
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quote:

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God I hope so. And I hope it finds the time to inject at least a little bit of levity into the proceedings. The Pacific was so bleak, so po-faced and humourless it made The Killing look like bloody Arrested Development.



Ah yes, the war in the Pacific. Known for its slapstick moments.



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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 21/1/2013 11:21:57 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

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God I hope so. And I hope it finds the time to inject at least a little bit of levity into the proceedings. The Pacific was so bleak, so po-faced and humourless it made The Killing look like bloody Arrested Development.



Ah yes, the war in the Pacific. Known for its slapstick moments.




You know what I mean

There were many moments of genuine humour and warmth in BoB, ("I'm not a quaker", "Baaaabe", Luz's impressions, throwing piss on Nixon etc etc) which leavens the often grim material and makes you care all the more about the characters. The Pacific was sorely lacking that.

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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 21/1/2013 1:47:13 PM   
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If anyone wants a 'teaser' of what the show might focus on, take a look at 'The Air War' chapter from the recent WWII In HD series. Very well done, narrated by Rob Lowe and featuring the voices of lots of A-list actors.


Considering picking up the complete series. Anyway, here's Part 1 of 'The Air War' - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ3xxAJdeuw




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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 21/1/2013 1:55:14 PM   
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I'd not heard of that show, Timon I'll check it out.

Very much looking forward to Masters Of The Air despite the fact that I still need to see The Pacific, I've had the DVD set for over two years now!


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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 21/1/2013 2:04:30 PM   
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It was shown here in the UK several years ago on Ch.4 and was called WWII: Lost Films, however the US title is WWII in HD. The main 10-part series was narrated by Gary Senise with assorted A-listers doing veteran voice over accounts. The Air War, I think, was a separate spin-off that doesn't come with the main set. However I may be wrong. Either way, it was very well done, though whether it's better than The World At War is another thing.

Considering what is needed for 'Masters of the Air', I bet this will be the most expensive miniseries yet, simply due to the planes and FX needed. I would have loved to see a series focusing on the War in North Africa, but I can only imagine the logistical nightmare of that. Plus the Americans only joined in in 1942 and Rommel and Montgomery had been battling for two years before then, so find a point of view to do it from would have been more complex for the US-financed show.



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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 22/1/2013 10:48:19 AM   
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Actually, I think I do remember that being on TV now. I never got around to watching it though. Watched some of it on youtube earlier and it certainly seems good enough to get the DVD set.




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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 22/1/2013 12:07:49 PM   
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I'm interested, though I was hoping for the the USS Indianapolis Shark fest as the next mini series from them. Wasn't that touted as a possible a few years back, or was that just wishful thinking on behalf of people here?

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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 22/1/2013 12:30:54 PM   
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No, that was going to be a feature film. A certain talented forumite wrote an article on it for Den of Geek.

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/18010/bringing-the-story-of-the-uss-indianapolis-to-the-big-screen

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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 22/1/2013 12:47:34 PM   
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Does anyone think there might be a chance of one of the episodes featuring something about the tuskegee airmen?

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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 22/1/2013 1:56:33 PM   
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I'd say it's possible, I believe some Mighty Eighth bombers were protected by Red Tail mustangs, but I'd need to check.

http://savannahnow.com/your-good-news/2012-04-10/tuskegee-airman-visits-mighty-eighth-air-force-museum

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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 7/2/2013 3:10:33 PM   
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If there was one thing that Red Tails did well (and it wasn't a lot), it was that the aerial scenes looked good. And Masters of the Air will have a much larger budget.




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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 11/3/2013 11:19:06 AM   
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Donald L. Miller has revealed what he thinks the focus of the miniseries will be.

"During the war, there were dozens of American air groups and stations in London and the small towns northeast of the city, so the master script will most likely focus on one group and one station while also vividly portraying England as the nexus of the Allied assault. The series also will explore the prisoner of war experience. In 1943, almost every American prisoner of war was an airman, and the Eighth Air Force suffered more casualties than the entire Marine Corps did during the whole war."

http://www.lafayette.edu/about/news/2013/03/07/new-hbo-miniseries-based-on-professor-donald-l-millers-masters-of-the-air/

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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 10/4/2013 1:55:38 PM   
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I know these shows take years to put together, but I'm really chomping at the bit for production news. I think it's because I'm plowing through Miller's book 'The Eighth Air Force' and it's fantastic stuff.

No one on Google has even set up a fan site yet! I'm sure there was half a dozen a few hours after The Pacific was announced back in the day.

Recently watched 12 O'Clock High which is loosely based on the experiences of 'the Mighty Eighth' and its pilots - shocking stuff and the experiences Miller describes in his book are just horrific.


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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 11/4/2013 10:16:28 AM   
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No one on Google has even set up a fan site yet!


Well, what are you waiting for?!

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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 11/4/2013 10:43:49 AM   
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I have no website building experience. Or ability. If it's in place, I can work a CMS like a pro - but actually building the fucker? No way.

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RE: 'Masters of the Air' - Sequel to 'Band of Brothers'... - 27/11/2013 10:49:37 AM   
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News! NEWS!

http://hbowatch.com/writing-of-masters-of-the-air-for-hbo-in-progress/

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