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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 12:21:51 PM   
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I understand the frustration of not being able to spend your gift vouchers. It seems wrong to me that this is the case, and yet the staff are not lying to you when they say there is nothing they can do. We are powerless.


Not only true, but also not the first time it has happened - most of the high street names that have gone over the last couple of years did a similar thing - Woolies, Whittards (before they were saved), Focus and MVC all suspended gift cards and vouchers as soon as the bad news was announced. MVC I remember particulary, as I had £50 in vouchers that I recevied for my birthday, which were worth nothing when I went to the store to spend them. I instead left with a couple of cheapo DVDs that I paid for with cash.

Safe to say that in every similar case, it is not the retailer themselves who make this rule, but the adminisrators. So yeah - going in to a store to give the poor person behind the desk a mouth and face full is a bit shitty on the customer's part.

But since the mid 00s the only gift cards I've bought for others have been for supermarkets, Boots, or the High Street ones that cover you for several stores. Unfortunately I learnt that the hard way when Replay Records (an independent Bristol and Bath institution) closed their doors in '05 or '06 and I'd forked out about £100 in vouchers for a few christmas and birthday presents.


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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 12:53:43 PM   
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/high-streets-to-be-awash-with-semi-feral-husbands-2013011556105
As HMV entered administration shortly after the failure of shops selling computers and cameras, experts fear there will soon be nothing in towns for men.
Husbands and partners will be left in the street while their partners visit clothes and cushion shops, and will quickly revert to their natural instincts.

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 2:34:09 PM   
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Blockbuster Video now as well. Anyone fancy starting a business Dead Pool?

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 3:05:12 PM   
Chief


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Blockbuster Video now as well. Anyone fancy starting a business Dead Pool?


I was just thinking about them being next yesterday. Again, a little bit over priced for sales but I thought they'd have had a steady stream of customers for rentals.

I don't know what the rest of the country is like but they're the only rental place in my area. I only use them for kids movies that amount to about a fiver a month. It's just somewhere to walk and let the little 'un browse.

More gutted about them than HMV to be honest, just because I use them more.

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 3:28:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chief

quote:

ORIGINAL: superdan

Blockbuster Video now as well. Anyone fancy starting a business Dead Pool?


I was just thinking about them being next yesterday. Again, a little bit over priced for sales but I thought they'd have had a steady stream of customers for rentals.

I don't know what the rest of the country is like but they're the only rental place in my area. I only use them for kids movies that amount to about a fiver a month. It's just somewhere to walk and let the little 'un browse.

More gutted about them than HMV to be honest, just because I use them more.


Not with the likes of Lovefilm, Netflix and NowTV allowing you to stream movies to practically every electronic device that uses a screen.

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 3:36:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chief

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ORIGINAL: superdan

Blockbuster Video now as well. Anyone fancy starting a business Dead Pool?


I was just thinking about them being next yesterday. Again, a little bit over priced for sales but I thought they'd have had a steady stream of customers for rentals.

I don't know what the rest of the country is like but they're the only rental place in my area. I only use them for kids movies that amount to about a fiver a month. It's just somewhere to walk and let the little 'un browse.

More gutted about them than HMV to be honest, just because I use them more.


Not with the likes of Lovefilm, Netflix and NowTV allowing you to stream movies to practically every electronic device that uses a screen.


Assuming you have a decent internet connection. Buffering can suck my dick.

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 3:47:50 PM   
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I said Blockbuster would only be a matter of time in the DVD Discussion thread, I didn't think it would be the same week as HMV, were they having a contest to see who could last longest? Fuck me!

Assuming the worst for a second, if neither HMV or Blockbuster remain a high street presence, that leaves....the Supermarkets for DVD/Blu-Ray & CD's.

Time for the Picard facepalm!



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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 4:51:47 PM   
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Does this mean Fopp will be leaving us again as well? i love Fopp, great prices and great choices, best entertainment shop out there. If ya can find one.

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 4:55:41 PM   
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Fopp aren't sure what's happening with them. Fingers crossed they'll survive again. 

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 4:59:12 PM   
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I've never seen a Fopp!
Actually... I think there used to be one next to Camden Lock, but that shut down years ago, and I didn't realise there were any left.

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 5:35:36 PM   
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I haven't rented a DVD from a shop since about 2003 so aside from nostalgia I'm not too sorry to see them go.


...Although, the nostalgia is bloody powerful since rental shops were my favourite place in the whole world as a kid. Besides cinemas and sofa cushion forts.

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 6:03:56 PM   
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Sorry Moon

With the news that gift vouchers are going to be void I can only hope customers will try and look past this and realise that 4000 people are probably going to lose their jobs.


I'd be pretty pissed if I'd bought a voucher for someone, or been given one for X-mas. I know its not the fault of the staff and their attitude would quite rightly be "why do I give a stuff about your voucher, I'm out of a job", but it still feels a bit like robbery to me. You took my money and didn't give me the value of the goods in exchange. If I had one I'd be picking up whatever I wanted from the store of the voucher value and then leaving the vouchers at the counter and walking out.



I understand the frustration of not being able to spend your gift vouchers. It seems wrong to me that this is the case, and yet the staff are not lying to you when they say there is nothing they can do. We are powerless. Some of the staff at my store have gift vouchers we cannot use either, myself included. It's a really shitty situation that I would do anything to get out of. Things customers need to understand is that the staff selling them the gift cards were not aware we would be going into administration. We were given no heads up, no warning, we learned everything from the news last night, and that includes store managers and we even suspect our regional manager.



Exactly this. The staff do actually care about the fact they can't accept the vouchers/giftcards, but it's totally out of their hands - once the administrators take over, the shop/company is run by their rules - meaning in this case, HMV is no longer HMV. It's in the hands of whatever administrators were appointed.

I absolutely hated this when Borders had gone into administration. Because I wanted to just accept people's giftcards, but couldn't. And I could understand people getting annoyed. Quite often we'd get one of the guys from the administration company to deal with those customers because it wasn't technically Borders by that point.




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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 7:13:19 PM   
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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 7:16:33 PM   
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Blockbuster, incidently, is still honouring gift cards.


Gift cards/vouchers are shit anyway. Anyone who buys them for a friend or family member is a lazy giftbuyer.

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 7:19:22 PM   
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Gift cards/vouchers are shit anyway. Anyone who buys them for a friend or family member is a lazy giftbuyer.


I was going to say the same but I didn't want to be seen as rocking the boat.



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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 7:24:16 PM   
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Blockbuster, incidently, is still honouring gift cards.


Gift cards/vouchers are shit anyway. Anyone who buys them for a friend or family member is a lazy giftbuyer.


As Jasper Carrott once said "I was planning on giving them a £10 note which you could spend anywhere. What was I thinking?"

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 7:26:55 PM   
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http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/irish-grandfather-defies-hmv-voucher-133805131.html

VIVA LA REVOLUTION!


"He and grandson Cian walked out of the store in Henry Street, Dublin, with computer games worth €46.80 after a failed attempt to exchange the invalid vouchers for the goods, according to reports by the Irish Independent .
Security guards, who did not restrain the pair, nonetheless followed them part-way down the city centre street in an attempt to persuade them to return the trio of computer games: Euro Truck Simulator 2, The Sims 3 Town Life and Rail Simulator."


Wow, sounds like Cian's a chip off the old block, a real adrenaline junkie...

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 7:44:33 PM   
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Blockbuster, incidently, is still honouring gift cards.


Gift cards/vouchers are shit anyway. Anyone who buys them for a friend or family member is a lazy giftbuyer.

Book vouchers annoyed me as a kid. One because I was more interested in film and resented being looked upon as thick just because I wasn't that interested in books, and two because by the time a book did come out that I was interested in the damn things had always gone out of date.

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 7:45:21 PM   
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Blockbusters were still in business?? News to me.
I use to love going there as a kid and my dad would rent all the 18 rated horror movies for me...Excellent parenting.

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 7:59:51 PM   
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HMV Ireland are in administration too.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-01-16-angry-grandfather-walks-out-of-hmv-with-3-games-after-staff-refuse-to-accept-gift-voucher

The bad news the administration is being handle by Deloitte. The same people who bought Comet for £2 and that went under. They also took over Game and following the same business model with less stores.

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 8:00:07 PM   
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Blockbusters were still in business?? News to me.


I think this is the same for a lot of people actually, due to Blockbuster's inability to bother to advertise itself in recent years. So perhaps administration and then finding new owners actually would be really good for the company in the long run.

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 8:07:09 PM   
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Blockbusters were still in business?? News to me.


I think this is the same for a lot of people actually, due to Blockbuster's inability to bother to advertise itself in recent years. So perhaps administration and then finding new owners actually would be really good for the company in the long run.


Yeah if they do, and even if they do in the meantime there will still probably be job cuts and that's not pleasant for the people at the bottom of the pile who are going to be collecting their P45s over the next month. My friend works for Fopp, owned by HMV, and he's facing losing his job in the next couple of weeks. He was one more pay-day, that has been confirmed by the company, and after that it's a whole world of uncertainity.

I think it's very sad, I'm one of the few people out there who buys DVDs and CDs regularly anymore and don't shop online and I liked both these stores very much. It really is the end of an era when these two go.



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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 8:12:59 PM   
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I spend a fortune in Fopp though, and it's always busy. Probably a lot more so than HMV when I've passed.

Bet Netflix will bump up its advertising.


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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 8:15:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Goodfella


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ORIGINAL: Rhubarb

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ORIGINAL: lbiu

Blockbusters were still in business?? News to me.


I think this is the same for a lot of people actually, due to Blockbuster's inability to bother to advertise itself in recent years. So perhaps administration and then finding new owners actually would be really good for the company in the long run.


Yeah if they do, and even if they do in the meantime there will still probably be job cuts and that's not pleasant for the people at the bottom of the pile who are going to be collecting their P45s over the next month. My friend works for Fopp, owned by HMV, and he's facing losing his job in the next couple of weeks. He was one more pay-day, that has been confirmed by the company, and after that it's a whole world of uncertainity.

I think it's very sad, I'm one of the few people out there who buys DVDs and CDs regularly anymore and don't shop online and I liked both these stores very much. It really is the end of an era when these two go.




I work at Blockbuster, and we've been promised our pay for the forseeable future and told not to panic. Obviously, I can't actually say too much, but that is the situation as we've been told.

But I would imagine even if it was being bought some stores would be closed, yeah. I mean Blockbuster has 500+ stores in the UK, which is all kinds of crazy in the modern world.

I think there is a place for high street DVD and CD shops. Obviously the problem is at least in part online - and hey obviously I have bought things from Amazon, so its partly my doing, but on the other hand, what consumer wouldn't when things can be so much cheaper there, due to the lack of paying tax etc for them? So essentially the government(s) who have failed to close the tax loopholes for online stores have a heck of a lot to answer for.

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 8:25:04 PM   
Goodfella


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ORIGINAL: Rhubarb

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ORIGINAL: Goodfella


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rhubarb

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ORIGINAL: lbiu

Blockbusters were still in business?? News to me.


I think this is the same for a lot of people actually, due to Blockbuster's inability to bother to advertise itself in recent years. So perhaps administration and then finding new owners actually would be really good for the company in the long run.


Yeah if they do, and even if they do in the meantime there will still probably be job cuts and that's not pleasant for the people at the bottom of the pile who are going to be collecting their P45s over the next month. My friend works for Fopp, owned by HMV, and he's facing losing his job in the next couple of weeks. He was one more pay-day, that has been confirmed by the company, and after that it's a whole world of uncertainity.

I think it's very sad, I'm one of the few people out there who buys DVDs and CDs regularly anymore and don't shop online and I liked both these stores very much. It really is the end of an era when these two go.




I work at Blockbuster, and we've been promised our pay for the forseeable future and told not to panic. Obviously, I can't actually say too much, but that is the situation as we've been told.

But I would imagine even if it was being bought some stores would be closed, yeah. I mean Blockbuster has 500+ stores in the UK, which is all kinds of crazy in the modern world.

I think there is a place for high street DVD and CD shops. Obviously the problem is at least in part online - and hey obviously I have bought things from Amazon, so its partly my doing, but on the other hand, what consumer wouldn't when things can be so much cheaper there, due to the lack of paying tax etc for them? So essentially the government(s) who have failed to close the tax loopholes for online stores have a heck of a lot to answer for.


I'll keep my fingers crossed for you then, I have worked at a chain store that went into administration though and I now how this goes downhill quickly. Hopefully they get bought and your job stays safe, I should imagine if they do and, like you say, they close some stores anyway then the one near me will almost certainly go given our remote location and the fact it is quite quiet and the one a few towns across is far busier.

To be honest with you given the cross-section of film and TV DVDs I buy I've never found online shopping much cheaper, and in cases I've found Blockbuster and HMV certainly to be cheaper (especially when it comes, for example, to British TV series like The Thick of It). I also like the second-hand DVDs on sale in Blockbuster, I am a bit old school, I like to see what I'm buying before I buy it and enjoy the experience for looking for the DVD I want or being caught by the surprise of something taking my interest that you can only really get from being in a store like that. HMV, for example, do some great books on cinema as well that you struggle to pick up from other places.

I agree about the tax loopholes 100%, it'll be interesting to see if this makes it in with the HOC in session over the next couple of days. I don't agree downloading has been a major contributor, I still think that that market isn't large enough yet to have such an impact that would force long-running chains like HMV and Blockbuster to force closure of business.

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I spend a fortune in Fopp though, and it's always busy. Probably a lot more so than HMV when I've passed.

Bet Netflix will bump up its advertising.


I hope Fopp stays too but he's not very confident after the end of this month.

I was watching Sky News earlier and after discussing the topic during the next two ad breaks there was ads for LoveFilm....







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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 8:31:41 PM   
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Downloading has had an impact - certainly on HMV, where the way people consume music has inherently changed (and the revelation that HMV head honchos thought downloading was going to be a fad and so buried their heads in the sand is shockingly short sighted) but it is up to stores like HMV to try and innovate and move with the times, they benifited massively from previous changes - like from wax to disc. But there obviously is a music market out there, the same as there is with films, its just been swallowed to such a large extent by the internet that its shutting the high street out

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 8:45:28 PM   
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I think that if HMV survives, that Fopp might be okay. This is based on nothing except a gut feeling. Fopp is very popular and whenever I visit one (either the one in Nottingham or London whenever I am in either place) It's always busy and I always spend way more money that I intended to. I think the fact there are only about 6 (is that right?) stores left in the country could work in its favour. Speculation is that if HMV gets bought it will continue to run with about half the number of stores, so I would imagine, and sincerely hope that some of those are Fopp stores.

People taking things from HMV has become more wide spread and every store has been sent extra security by the administrators to help out with any incidents in the future. As for the HMV in Ireland, I really don't know how they got away with the games, every HMV I have ever been in has all games contents removed from the cases and stored behind a counter. But nevermind.

Today was a lot calmer, still a few incidents, but nothing anywhere near as awful as yesterday. We still know very little but have managed to sort out a few issues. One thing we have started doing is that if anyone has left a deposit on an order, obviously we cannot refund the deposit, but we are taking that deposit off anything else they are buying in the store. This might be just our store, but the way we are looking at things like this is, until we are told we cannot do this, we will do it. So if anyone is in this sort of situation I recommend heading down to the stores now to sort it out, as we fully suspect that at some point in the future we will have a memo through telling us we cannot do this. But for now, we can, so we are.

They keep saying there will be an announcement about gift cards on the news, but we still haven't heard anything in stores yet. I really hope they get this sorted soon, as if we could take gift cards, not only would our sales figures rise, but we would get next to no hassle from customers.

As for the whole thing earlier about arresting those people who took stuff in place of their gift cards I would like to reiterate that nobody was arrested. The police were called in to resolve the matter and to try and get our stock back, no charges were pressed, nobody got arrested or a criminal record. We're not monsters, we simply can't afford to be losing stock from our stores like that. I don't like to bring it up again, but I feel as though that point was lost in what I wrote and I feel it is important to say.

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 8:48:55 PM   
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Oh and as for Blockbusters, my mum told me the news when I got home. Terrible news for the high street and the entertainment industry. Rhubarb, I hope things work out for you in your store and Blockbuster get a deal sorted soon. I have fond memories of Blockbuster, going to my dads house and taking a drive down to Blockbuster on the way, choosing 2 or 3 films and spending the day just watching films. I think if it hadn't been for Blockbuster and my dad, I wouldn't have anywhere near the same thirst for films that I do today.

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 8:49:05 PM   
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Downloading has had an impact - certainly on HMV, where the way people consume music has inherently changed (and the revelation that HMV head honchos thought downloading was going to be a fad and so buried their heads in the sand is shockingly short sighted) but it is up to stores like HMV to try and innovate and move with the times, they benifited massively from previous changes - like from wax to disc. But there obviously is a music market out there, the same as there is with films, its just been swallowed to such a large extent by the internet that its shutting the high street out


I would agree about music, but not film. It'll be interesting to see what Ed Balls has to say about this over the next couple of days given he came out just last week and said unemployment benefit cuts were "desperately needed" to get the long-term unemployed to take minimum wage jobs, don't disagree with that at all, but when your tax loophole policy is about to cut up to 9,000 people out of their minimum wage jobs I'd love to know how that's going to work?

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RE: Another one bites the dust - 16/1/2013 9:05:10 PM   
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Oh and as for Blockbusters, my mum told me the news when I got home. Terrible news for the high street and the entertainment industry. Rhubarb, I hope things work out for you in your store and Blockbuster get a deal sorted soon. I have fond memories of Blockbuster, going to my dads house and taking a drive down to Blockbuster on the way, choosing 2 or 3 films and spending the day just watching films. I think if it hadn't been for Blockbuster and my dad, I wouldn't have anywhere near the same thirst for films that I do today.


Cheers yeah, and ditto the other way too. I was sad to hear about HMV yesterday, and went down and spent some money at my local one as a bit of a show of solidarity. I love buying CDs, still, so would like HMV to find a way out of this from a consumer point of view.

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You organisational skills sicken me, Rhubarb.



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