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Not much of a mixture, is it? - 10/1/2013 4:55:28 PM   
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There's only a handful of pictures that seem to have a lot of nominations. Not very interesting for the viewer because it's likely that one or two will clean up and that's never an accurate account of 12 months. If I could add any I'd add Chris Nolan for TDKR just because the movie is so epic in size (not many directors can handle that David Lean-size scope), I'd add MacFarlane, Sulkin and Wild for Ted's original screenplay because that was the funniest movie I've seen since Anchorman and I'd add Mihai Malaimare Jr. for the cinematography in The Master, because it was gorgeous.

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RE: RE: - 10/1/2013 4:56:00 PM   
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Their plots were only full of holes if you weren't paying attention/willing to do a little thinking for yourself.


No DKR was full of plot holes.


No. It wasn't. This has been discussed many times at length... there's not one "plot hole" that can't be explained using the internal logic of the movies, or in some cases are right there on screen.

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TDKR - 10/1/2013 4:56:07 PM   
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Once again the noms make no sense. Django could be best picture but then no nom for QT? and the snub to Chris Nolan as usual is a shocker not even nominated for cinematography or score is utter rubbish. People can moan that it wasn't the dark knight but that was the point. Tom Hardy did a great job as Bane only being able to use his eyes to convey emotion, if he had ODed no doubt he would be up there.

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RE: RE: - 10/1/2013 4:56:36 PM   
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Their plots were only full of holes if you weren't paying attention/willing to do a little thinking for yourself.


No DKR was full of plot holes.


No. It wasn't. This has been discussed many times at length... there's not one "plot hole" that can't be explained using the internal logic of the movies, or in some cases are right there on screen.


Keep telling yourself that - fanboy.

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RE: RE: - 10/1/2013 4:56:58 PM   
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Their plots were only full of holes if you weren't paying attention/willing to do a little thinking for yourself.


No DKR was full of plot holes.


And was mind numbingly dull to boot.

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RE: Not much of a mixture, is it? - 10/1/2013 4:57:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nicky C

There's only a handful of pictures that seem to have a lot of nominations. Not very interesting for the viewer because it's likely that one or two will clean up and that's never an accurate account of 12 months. If I could add any I'd add Chris Nolan for TDKR just because the movie is so epic in size (not many directors can handle that David Lean-size scope), I'd add MacFarlane, Sulkin and Wild for Ted's original screenplay because that was the funniest movie I've seen since Anchorman and I'd add Mihai Malaimare Jr. for the cinematography in The Master, because it was gorgeous.


Ted was a pile of shit.

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RE: RE: - 10/1/2013 4:57:40 PM   
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Ah... someone else who resorts to the word "fanboy". How refreshing.

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RE: RE: - 10/1/2013 4:59:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AxlReznor

Ah... someone else who resorts to the word "fanboy". How refreshing.


You're welcome.

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RE: RE: - 10/1/2013 4:59:33 PM   
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Oh look, another TDKR argument.

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RE: RE: - 10/1/2013 5:00:14 PM   
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Hey... someone else brought it up.

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Django - 10/1/2013 5:06:59 PM   
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Why is it not in the tally?

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RE: RE: - 10/1/2013 5:14:12 PM   
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Skyfall was the bigger culprit. Completely over elaborate plot when all he had to do was dress up as a cop and shoot his victim. And if you're being hunted by a killer at night it's not a good idea to wave a torch about. Heads of intelligence agencies ought to know that.
TDKR-Knee Brace. Villains overly complicated plot.

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RE: RE: - 10/1/2013 5:15:45 PM   
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In neither case is having an overly-complicated plot a plot hole. It's a hallmark of the type of villain that both Bond and Batman have always had to face. Nor is the knee brace... but you at least get points for not saying "how did Batman get back into Gotham?"

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RE: RE: - 10/1/2013 5:19:46 PM   
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Perhaps I should've said poor plots rather than plot holes. I rather liked the films (Well acted and thematically interesting) but they were seriously flawed.

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RE: RE: - 10/1/2013 5:25:44 PM   
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Oh look, another TDKR argument.


Is there a Biting lip smiley?

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Best score for Skyfall??! - 10/1/2013 5:26:59 PM   
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So, David Arnold composes some of the best pieces of action music for any film made with the scores for Tomorrow Never Dies, The World Is Not Enough and Casino Royale and receives naff all attention from the Academy of Cloth Eared Nincompoops.

David Newman pops along and produces the most forgettable score in Bond history and gets a nod. Mind you, they seem to rate any old faff that Desplat puffs out, so I guess there's no accounting for taste.

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RE: Best score for Skyfall??! - 10/1/2013 5:31:32 PM   
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And why in the name of Cubby R Brocolli did the insipid and barely understandable theme song from Skyfall get a nod as well? Worst. Bond. Theme. Ever. And yes, I'm including The Living Daylights and License To Kill. I'd rather here that Christmas tree one from OHMSS than this bland toss on toast.

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Django Song - 10/1/2013 5:36:53 PM   
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No nod for the Django theme song - its one of my new gym tracks - love it! I can't stop singing "Djangooooo... doo doo doo... Djangooooo...." I am yet to learn the words... But Les Mis gets nod for Original song - its taken from stage show right? It may be original for the film perhaps...

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- 10/1/2013 5:39:28 PM   
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Someone please explain to me how TDKR has not been nominated for best visual effects (considering they tried their best to not use CGI where ever possible) or score?

Even Tom Hardy's Bane should have at least a nomination for supporting. Ugh, I'm starting to loath the Oscars to be honest, they're becoming predictable!

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RE: Best score for Skyfall??! - 10/1/2013 5:42:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rod Hull

And why in the name of Cubby R Brocolli did the insipid and barely understandable theme song from Skyfall get a nod as well? Worst. Bond. Theme. Ever. And yes, I'm including The Living Daylights and License To Kill. I'd rather here that Christmas tree one from OHMSS than this bland toss on toast.


Agree with this. The way Adele mangles the English language to try and get the lyrics to scan makes me angry enough to club baby seals. What the fuck does crum-ball mean and why does her pronounciation of Skyfall make it sound like she's singing about scaffold?

Worst Bond song ever indeed, just ahead of Die Another Day and the above mentioned License to Kill.

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RE: Django Song - 10/1/2013 5:45:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: owenyunfat

No nod for the Django theme song - its one of my new gym tracks - love it! I can't stop singing "Djangooooo... doo doo doo... Djangooooo...."


The song is an old one, from the original 66 Django. It was never eligible.

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Someone please explain to me how TDKR has not been nominated for best visual effects (considering they tried their best to not use CGI where ever possible) or score?


Because the professionals who work in visual effects and film music didn't like it.

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RE: Django Song - 10/1/2013 5:47:07 PM   
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No nod for the Django theme song - its one of my new gym tracks - love it! I can't stop singing "Djangooooo... doo doo doo... Djangooooo...." I am yet to learn the words... But Les Mis gets nod for Original song - its taken from stage show right? It may be original for the film perhaps...


Probably because it's 46 years old.

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Forget Dark Knight Rises, The Master should have earned... - 10/1/2013 5:47:40 PM   
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The Master is the finest film ever made. But its understandable it didn't earn best picture, best director or screenplay nominations. Its a bit extreme for Academy voters. At least there's 3 acting nominations which were to too magnificent to ignore

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RE: Django Song - 10/1/2013 5:48:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: owenyunfat

No nod for the Django theme song - its one of my new gym tracks - love it! I can't stop singing "Djangooooo... doo doo doo... Djangooooo...." I am yet to learn the words... But Les Mis gets nod for Original song - its taken from stage show right? It may be original for the film perhaps...


Probably because it's 46 years old.


Beat you to it, biatch.

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FLASHMAN - 10/1/2013 5:50:33 PM   
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There is what you want to win, and what you expect to win, and, taking everything on board, I have an overpowering sensation in my digestive tract that Silver Linings Playbook is going to give Jennifer Lawrence a good night & also nab Best Picture.

The spy films are too controversial, Beasts and Amour too specialist, Lincoln, too wordy, Pi, too tricksy, Les Mis, too British and Django, too naughtily subversive........................

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- 10/1/2013 5:59:48 PM   
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You missed Django off the nominees tally...

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RE: Django Song - 10/1/2013 6:02:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: owenyunfat

No nod for the Django theme song - its one of my new gym tracks - love it! I can't stop singing "Djangooooo... doo doo doo... Djangooooo...." I am yet to learn the words... But Les Mis gets nod for Original song - its taken from stage show right? It may be original for the film perhaps...


Probably because it's 46 years old.


Beat you to it, biatch.


That'll teach me not to refresh the page before posting

I'd love to see Django win best film to be honest. It's a fantastic film and it would piss off a shit load of people. Even if it was a shit film I'd like to see it win awards just to troll Spike Lee.

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RE: Django Song - 10/1/2013 6:30:39 PM   
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Biggest snub: Prometheus for production design.

Not sure why Thomas Newman keeps getting nominated for Skyfall. I haven't seen the film but as a score by itself it's one of his weakest.

Really bizarre and pleasantly surprised to see The Simpsons get nominated for an Oscar after all this time.

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RE: Django Song - 10/1/2013 7:24:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: owenyunfat

But Les Mis gets nod for Original song - its taken from stage show right? It may be original for the film perhaps...


You've answered your own question there. Yes, 'Suddenly' was written for the film.


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Tom Hardy did a great job as Bane only being able to use his eyes to convey emotion, if he had ODed no doubt he would be up there.


Oh come on now.



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RE: Best score for Skyfall??! - 10/1/2013 7:26:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Harry Tuttle


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rod Hull

And why in the name of Cubby R Brocolli did the insipid and barely understandable theme song from Skyfall get a nod as well? Worst. Bond. Theme. Ever. And yes, I'm including The Living Daylights and License To Kill. I'd rather here that Christmas tree one from OHMSS than this bland toss on toast.


Agree with this. The way Adele mangles the English language to try and get the lyrics to scan makes me angry enough to club baby seals. What the fuck does crum-ball mean and why does her pronounciation of Skyfall make it sound like she's singing about scaffold?

Worst Bond song ever indeed, just ahead of Die Another Day and the above mentioned License to Kill.


Regardless of thoughts on the Skyfall theme (which I really like), there should be absolutely no arguments that Die Another Day isn't only the worst Bond song, but one of the worst songs ever sung.

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