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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 10/3/2013 1:00:34 PM   
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I was watching a film where the writer had maybe seen Wall Street and, beyond that, knew bog all about finance or business - the script was that laughable (even beyond the actions of Finance Director Barbie, which actually got a few giggles). I felt so sorry for Roth - he and Sarandon phoned it in, as they say. Random emoting scenes with no coehsive motivation came out of nowhere other than it being the actors turn I guess, their shot in the script.

Gere? For me, a generally poor actor but even with that lack of agreement - surely it isn't up for dispute that his face was broadly immobile for vast chunks of the film? I wondered if it might be botox - the absurdly high level of blinking did also suggest that to me.

There's a film with a similarly extreme problem with it's star's face IMO - the Zellweger one New in Town. She's unrecognisable from one scene to the next.

Arbitrage - I love Stuart Margolin and Reg E Cathay, so it didn't get zero marks. But a very run of the mill film with a script steeped in ignorance and no real impression from the direction other than he wasn't particularly good at controlling actors.

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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 10/3/2013 1:12:22 PM   
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I was watching a film where the writer had maybe seen Wall Street and, beyond that, knew bog all about finance or business - the script was that laughable (even beyond the actions of Finance Director Barbie, which actually got a few giggles). I felt so sorry for Roth - he and Sarandon phoned it in, as they say. Random emoting scenes with no coehsive motivation came out of nowhere other than it being the actors turn I guess, their shot in the script.

Gere? For me, a generally poor actor but even with that lack of agreement - surely it isn't up for dispute that his face was broadly immobile for vast chunks of the film? I wondered if it might be botox - the absurdly high level of blinking did also suggest that to me.

There's a film with a similarly extreme problem with it's star's face IMO - the Zellweger one New in Town. She's unrecognisable from one scene to the next.

Arbitrage - I love Stuart Margolin and Reg E Cathay, so it didn't get zero marks. But a very run of the mill film with a script steeped in ignorance and no real impression from the direction other than he wasn't particularly good at controlling actors.

First off I am not saying I am the biggest Gere fan, but when cast in the right sort of roles, then I do find him a effective screen actor and this was one of those times. Where we seem to disagree is that you seem to just see his performance as just weak because he is imcapable of showing emotion, but I see it the other way as him underplaying the performance because that is what the coldness of the character required.

Also you seem to be caught between slamming the film for being a predictable genre piece and a rip-off of Wall Street. But that is a strength for me, because it is an old fashioned thriller which you don't see enough of now, but it is also a very contempary film, with relevent themes. And I found Roth's performance very entertaining, he knew the level of the character and did what he had to do great.

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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 10/3/2013 1:33:19 PM   
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You've misunderstood. I didn't compare it to Wall St, I'm saying it's presentation of business and finance is so cartoonishly silly one could believe the sole research was watching the odd business set film. And you've also misread my comment on Gere - the immobility was separate from a general comment on his acting. It looked like his face couldn't move, not that it was an acting choice.

It wasn't thrilling for me. A poor man's Michael Clayton from a writer that didn't properly think through his story - disappearing serious injury, hello? - and wasn't good enough to write character. Events were randomly included to create palpably silly attempts at tension - sadly, Roth's cliche of a cop was one of the worst victims of this. Although, luckily, Gere's character then turned into eagle-eyed super sleuth to confound him - hurrah! Dear heavens, I thought it was bad

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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 12/3/2013 11:42:27 AM   
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You've misunderstood. I didn't compare it to Wall St, I'm saying it's presentation of business and finance is so cartoonishly silly one could believe the sole research was watching the odd business set film. And you've also misread my comment on Gere - the immobility was separate from a general comment on his acting. It looked like his face couldn't move, not that it was an acting choice.

It wasn't thrilling for me. A poor man's Michael Clayton from a writer that didn't properly think through his story - disappearing serious injury, hello? - and wasn't good enough to write character. Events were randomly included to create palpably silly attempts at tension - sadly, Roth's cliche of a cop was one of the worst victims of this. Although, luckily, Gere's character then turned into eagle-eyed super sleuth to confound him - hurrah! Dear heavens, I thought it was bad

So you don't think that caracters like the Gere one exist in real life? I would say they are very much real more than ever in fact. One of the key points of the film is what Gere said in an interview, that these big business men nowadays have no clue about what they are talking about, and just say anything, either to cheat someone or because they just don't have the facts.

As for Roth's cop, I just think he is a classic trait of this kind of thriller, and as such should be taken on that level, fact is Roth is good in those kind of roles and I found him entertaining.

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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 27/3/2013 3:12:42 PM   
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Oz the Great and Powerful (Sam Raimi,130mins) 7/10
After a pretty ropey first twenty minutes, this actually turned out much better than anyone had any right to expect. Visually it was perfect, and because of his background in horror, Raimi was able to deliver some truly creepy and jump out of your sit moments. As 3D goes this was not bad. My main issue was with Franco who just proved once again what a smug and dull actor he is to watch, some would say he was well cast in that case, but I just feel it was a mistake to cast someone so unlikeable as the lead in a family film. Anyway Rachel Weisz stole the film performance wise, sadly there were some clitched lines restricting Michelle Williams from doing much, still pretty entertaining on the whole.

Beyond the Hills (Dupa dealuri) (Cristian Mungiu,150 Mins) 8/10
I didn't quite warm to this film like I did 4 Months, 3 Weeks & 2 Days, a film I felt was pretty much flawless. At times Mungiu's latest was so grim and a heavy going than I did leave the cinema feeling like I had been based over the head with a sledgehammer, and like Melick's recent work unless you have a keen interest in religon you may struggle. Putting that aside, this is another piece of breathtaking, pure cinema, with note perfect performances, and powerful cinematoghy, plus a chilling sense of atmoshpere and location. It is unforgettable whether you like it or not.

Robot & Frank (Jack Schreier,89 Mins) 7/10
This novel and charming little film, is mostly carried by Frank Langella's engaging, funny performance and just how low budget it looks at times. Filled with funny lines, and nicely observed moments, it is only really let down by how limtied the marterial is which does start to show later on, but there is a twist which I felt was handled very well.

Caesar Must Die (Cesare deve morire) (Paolo Taviani,Vittorio Taviani,76 Mins) 9/10
Stunning black and white photography, mixed with engaging, oddly moving performances, this is at times a very raw and dry piece, but also dramatic when it needs to be. A vividly written and directed film with some thought provoking ideas at the heart of it.

To come I hope to finally see Wreck it Ralph, alone with Sidev Effects and may Compliance.

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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 29/3/2013 12:29:56 PM   
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After 3 months & 30 films, I've finally reached what could be considered a top 10 for 2013.

1. Zero Dark Thirty (Bigelow)
2. No (Larrain)
3. McCullin (D & J Morris)
4. Wreck-It Ralph (Moore)
5. Beyond The Hills (2012, Mungiu)
6. Shell (2012, Graham)
7. Stoker (Chan-Wook)
8. Lincoln (Spielberg)
9. Side Effects (Soderbergh)
10. The Sessions (Lewin)

How much of this stays there for the rest of the year remains to be seen.

April viewings to look forward to...Mea Maxima Culpa, I Wish, Good Vibrations, Lore & Caesar Must Die. Hopefully the likes of Oblivion, Olympus Has Fallen, Dark Skies & Iron Man 3 will be a lot of fun as well.

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1. Zero Dark Thirty
2. No
3. A Hijacking
4. In The Fog
5. Good Vibrations
6. McCullin
7. Beyond the Hills
8. The Place Beyond the Pines
9. Wreck-it Ralph
10. Shell




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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 2/5/2013 6:55:36 PM   
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My top 10 so far after 31 films! [Lincoln is third from the bottom in my list so far ]

1/ Cloud Atlas
2/ Trance
3/ The Seasoning House
4/ Django Unchained
5/ The Impossible
6/ Iron Man 3
7/ Flight
8/ Mama
9/ The Last Stand
10/Stoker



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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 18/5/2013 9:49:57 PM   
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Just watched Les Mis again; god I love that film. Had to move it up a notch.

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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 23/5/2013 4:13:49 PM   
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Long over due update

Wreck-It Ralph (Rich Moore,108 Mins) 7/10
Nice twist on a old formula, strong vocal performances from C. Reilly, Silverman and McBrayer, a little too heavy on set pieces and light on plot at times. Loved the short

I Wish (Kiseki) (Hirokazu Koreeda,128 Mins) 8/10
Likely to be the best life affulming coming of age tale I will see all year. Beautifully expressionistic cinematography, gender director, breathless music and a very funny and touching tale of the adventures of being young as well as the tough challenges of getting older. The child performances are wonderful also. A real throw back film.

Dans la Maison (In the House) (Francois Ozon,105 Mins) 6.5/10
Just noticed that this is GM's favorurite film of 2013 to date, would like to see his review. It is a misfire for me, an interesting idea which works pretty well for about 3/4 of the film, but then the script goes stale and things drag from there with a little too many endings and attempts to tie itself up. It is a funny film, but never truly bites like good satire should, was impressed with both Fabrice Luchini and Ernst Umhauer, but thought Scott-Thomas was a little wasted as the go-between wife. Solid entertainment, but little more than that.

A Late Quartet (Jaron Zilberman,105 Mins) 7.5/10
A different take on what is normally a more feel good and predictable genre. It was refreshing than the film decided to focus more on the tension in the Quartet as a result of the Walken character's illness and pending retirement than on his discerse itself. The script got a good blanace between black comedy and drama, the performances were relieabley excellent, with the scenes between Hoffman and Keener having really energy (no suprise there) and it also got across the passion of the characters to play the music. Didn't have such a problem with the soap elements as some, but will admit that the Poots characters realtionship with Ivanir's was not as credible as Hoffman's midlife crisis.

The Evil Dead (Fede Alvarez,91 Mins) 6/10
Lacking in the slapstick humour and scares of the original, but at least this remake has its own identity, with some stylish gore moments and funny lines it turned out much better than any of us had any right to expect.

The Place Beyond the Pines (Derek Cianfrance,140 Mins) 8/10
A more ambitious narrative and film of themes than Cianfrance's Blue Valentine. No less gripping and stylish, the surreal world he creates and the unerving use of naturalistic sounds really makes for a compelling film for the most part. The first half again boosted by an engaging performance from Gosling worked more as a mood piece with the plot more simplistic, it was the second half of the movie where I became more interested in the actual story. Bradley Cooper gives his best performance to date, and there was strong support from Rose Byne and Ray Liotta. If there is a flaw it is in the final third where the story just tested credibility a little too much, and tried to tie what had been a very challeging film up too nicely. In the end what made BV a better film overall was the small details of the characters and her they reflected real life. Still this is a truly scary and stunning film, and Cianfrance has a very bright future imo.

Mud (Jeff Nichols,130 Mins) 4/10
Sorry but I just found this really boring and clitched! The story has been so many times before and there was nothing that really stood out this time around. The cast were decent, but Mcconaughey was in mumbling mode and never carried the menace as he did in Killer Joe, and Witherspoon and Shannon were wasted. Thought there were some horrible southern sterotypes too. Might have to rewatch Shot Gun Stories to get over this one.

Coming up I plan on seeing Iron 3, White Elephant, A Hyjacking and The Great Gatsby.

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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 24/5/2013 7:24:47 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ElephantBoy


Mud (Jeff Nichols,130 Mins) 4/10
Sorry but I just found this really boring and clitched! The story has been so many times before and there was nothing that really stood out this time around. The cast were decent, but Mcconaughey was in mumbling mode and never carried the menace as he did in Killer Joe, and Witherspoon and Shannon were wasted. Thought there were some horrible southern sterotypes too. Might have to rewatch Shot Gun Stories to get over this one.



Epic fail EB!

Enjoy A Hijacking though, it's crashed into my top 3 for the year.

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1. Zero Dark Thirty
2. No
3. A Hijacking
4. In The Fog
5. Good Vibrations
6. McCullin
7. Beyond the Hills
8. The Place Beyond the Pines
9. Wreck-it Ralph
10. Shell




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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 28/5/2013 7:18:35 PM   
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My top 10 of this year so far...

1. Zero Dark Thirty (Kathryn Bigelow)
2. Mud (Jeff Nichols)
3. The Place Beyond The Pines (Derek Cianfrance)
4. Bernie (Richard Linklater)
5. Side Effects (Steven Soderbergh)
6. Django Unchained (Quentin Tarantino)
7. Star Trek Into Darkness (JJ Abrams)
8. To The Wonder (Terrence Malick)
9. Behind The Candelabra (Steven Soderbergh)
10. Wrong (Quentin Dupieux)

Flight (Robert Zemeckis)
Other films I have seen this year:
The Sessions (Ben Lewin)
Stoker (Park Chan-wook)
Trance (Danny Boyle)
Lore (Cate Shortland)
Oblivion (Joseph Kosinski)
This Is 40 (Judd Apatow)
The Paperboy (Lee Daniels)
Wreck-It Ralph (Rich Moore)
Lincoln (Stephen Spielberg)
Side By Side (Christopher Kenneally)
Gangster Squad (Ruben Fleischer)

Films I have missed but feel I might like:
The House I Live In (Eugene Jarecki)
No (Pablo Larrain)
Gangs Of Wasseypur (Anurag Kashyap)
A Highjacking (Tobias Lindholm)
Post Tenebras Lux (Carlos Reygadas)
Sleep Tight (Jaume Balaguero)
Rebellion (Matthieu Kassovitz)
Neighbouring Sounds (Kleber Mendonca Filho)
Beyond The Hills (Cristian Mingiu)
I Wish (Hirokazu Koreeda)
Robot & Frank (Jake Schreier)
Bullhead (Michael Roskam)
Evil Dead (Fede Alvarez)
Iron Man 3 (Shane Black)

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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 28/5/2013 7:31:04 PM   
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I WIsh, No, Beyond the Hills and Neighbouring Sounds should be out soon on DVD (was I Wish maybe last Monday?).

Very much looking forward to rewatching the latter. It'll be a long time before I rewatch Beyond he Hills. Post Tenebras I'd happily watch the first 5-10 minutes again. Ditto Qwerty on A Hijacking and I very much enjoyed Robot and Frank.

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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 28/5/2013 7:34:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: elab49

I WIsh, No, Beyond the Hills and Neighbouring Sounds should be out soon on DVD (was I Wish maybe last Monday?).

Very much looking forward to rewatching the latter. It'll be a long time before I rewatch Beyond he Hills. Post Tenebras I'd happily watch the first 5-10 minutes again. Ditto Qwerty on A Hijacking and I very much enjoyed Robot and Frank.



Thinking of blind-buying No, and Neighbouring Sounds but I'd prefer that on blu-ray really (Artificial Eye are only doing it on DVD...same goes for Michael H - Profession: Director). I've already ordered Post Tenebras Lux (30% off at Viva Verve) and a friend is getting Beyond The Hills. Hope I get to see mostly everything this year as last year it took a while to catch up! Most of the best releases came out in the final 4 months, I found.

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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 28/5/2013 7:37:40 PM   
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Although the end of this month and the next couple have been quite impressive - so many out on Monday I wanted.

I use Viveverve off and on as well - just picked up Aurora from there. Might be one for you to try if Beyond the Hills interested you. Have you seen the Death of Mr Lazarescu?

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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 28/5/2013 7:58:38 PM   
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quote:

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Although the end of this month and the next couple have been quite impressive - so many out on Monday I wanted.

I use Viveverve off and on as well - just picked up Aurora from there. Might be one for you to try if Beyond the Hills interested you. Have you seen the Death of Mr Lazarescu?



Nope, I did read a review of Aurora a while back though. Never seen any Romanian films - won a copy of 4 Months, 3 Weeks & 2 Days on DVD recently but haven't watched it yet...

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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 28/5/2013 9:00:44 PM   
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I'd been really looking forward to Beyond the Hills based on 4 months, but I really wasn't a fan. Others rated it higher though. I'd certainly give it a go if you have time.The Romanian New Wave I like most are probably Lazarescu and 12.08 East of Bucharest, which are luckily easy to get over here (especially as Film 4 shows Lazarescu sometimes).



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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 29/5/2013 10:10:04 AM   
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Yeah pretty sure I Wish came out this week, it is such a stunning film and is on my list to buy. Also the masterpiece which is Zero Dark Thirty out soon as is Bullhead.

Kind of agree with elab on Beyond the Hills, it was an excellent bit of film making but I just never warmed to it as I did his other work.

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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 29/5/2013 5:18:11 PM   
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Yeah pretty sure I Wish came out this week, it is such a stunning film and is on my list to buy. Also the masterpiece which is Zero Dark Thirty out soon as is Bullhead.

Kind of agree with elab on Beyond the Hills, it was an excellent bit of film making but I just never warmed to it as I did his other work.


Loved Zero Dark Thirty but not sure if I'll get the immediate release. The amaray is bare-bones and I don't much want the digital copy. Gonna hold out for a possible steelbook like The Hurt Locker got...

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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 29/5/2013 6:27:39 PM   
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I WIsh did come out this week. It is now in my bag along with Planet of Snail. (And S2 of Heimat for a brilliant £15!)

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RE: Top 10 Films Of 2013 - 19/6/2013 1:56:59 AM   
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White Elephant (Elefante Blanco) (Pablo Trapero, 105 Mins) 8/10
Gripping and visually engaging tale of life in the slums, and the complex affect it has on people right in the heart of it and trying to help. The film really shows the knock on affect of something going wrong. The performances are comitted and the soundtrack very edgy.

Terracotta Film Festival 2013 Screenings

TFF See You Tomorrow Everyone (Minasan Sayonara) (Yoshihiro Nakamura, 120 Mins) 7.5/10
A film about a boy who graudates high school but seems destended to remain trapped in the same coucil estate for the rest of his life. We follow his joureny and how his fresturation impacts on his life and those around him as each year passes. The film starts out as a charming coming of age tale, but adaftly switches to darker places in the second half. Gaku Hamada brings an air of deadpan vualibility to the lead role.

TFF The Dancer (Sang Penari) (Ifa Isfansyah, 112 Mins) 7/10
The Indonesian entry for the Oscars is a pretty effective, lyical piece which feels more like a documentary than a film at times. The use of colour and music make for a striking sense of location, there are some disturbing sexual scenes. The script felt a bit limited at times was the only down side.

TFF What They Don't Talk About When They Talk About Love (yang tidak dibicarakean keitka membicarakan cinta) (Mouly Surya, 102 Mins) 8/10
One of the unique films I have viewed all year. Following three different characters all with seeing problems at a special boarding school, the film carefully balances many different genres, at times blurring the lines of comedy, drama, surrealist. It builds slowly and is subtley acted, with a beautifully compelling soundtrack. It is hard to know what to make of it, but it was an honest, daring and in the end very romantic experience.

Admission (Paul Weitz, 107 Mins) 6.5/10
Not quite the film which is going to make Tina Fey a break out star in films, but she is very funny, and convincing, in a comedy which was enjoyable and nice to view rather than laugh out loud funny. It had a pretty good satire on the class system and importance placed on getting into a top University. Lilly Tomlin is very good fun, but Paul Rudd is kind of bland, the film does drag a bit at times, but its a nice idea with more hits than misses.

A Hijacking (Kapringen) (Tabias Lindholm, 99 Mins) 8/10
A simple idea, thinly written plot is brilliantly drawn out, with a very realistic tension in a thriller which fills in the gaps with character detail. There is emotionalcomplexitie and moral issues driving the script forward. Pilou Asbaek is able to transform himself from the slyness of his Borgen role, to this brooding, spritied cook, effectivly showing the full range of emotions during the film.

Coming up I hope to catch up with The Great Gatsby, Iron Man 3, Made of Stone and am very excited to Joss Whedon's take on Much Ado About Nothing.

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