Register  |   Log In  |  
Sign up to our weekly newsletter    
Follow us on   
Search   
Forum Home Register for Free! Log In Moderator Tickets FAQ Users Online

RE: Django Unchained

 
Logged in as: Guest
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [Film Forums] >> Film Reviews >> RE: Django Unchained Page: <<   < prev  1 2 [3] 4 5   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: Django Unchained - 22/1/2013 7:46:43 AM   
Phubbs


Posts: 658
Joined: 3/4/2012
Django Unchained

The new Tarantino flick, I gotta be cruel, there can't be any favours now, straight down the line. So first off I've never really been much of a Tarantino fan, the guy made two decent films many many years ago ('Pulp Fiction' and 'Reservoir Dogs') and has pretty much lived off the reputation he gained ever since.

So what we have here is a 60/70's type retro homage to the classic violent Westerns of that time mainly made by Leone. The thing is this film is not a spaghetti Western, it may look like one or try to imitate one but its not. The term 'spaghetti Western' was coined during the 60's for Western films that were made in Italy/Spain with Italians and other Euro folk, for budgetary reasons. This is a mega budget film jam packed with huge squillion dollar earning stars, far from the source material methinks.

Think 'The Man with the Iron Fists' and you're on the right track my friends, this is a Western equivalent.

This may have worked much better with more of an unknown cast. The huge overpaid names hired tend to detach you from the reality of the setting, you'd think Tarantino would know better.

The plot is the standard revenge one but with a difference, this Western is all about African slaves, one particular slave fighting back, fighting the man. Now this is a plus point for the film as its not shying away from real history unlike many old Westerns. This is a great concept for a great realistic drama/thriller, unfortunately what we get is yet another typical Tarantino personal fanboy flick which kinda borders on old blaxploitation flicks. You could almost say the film has 'Superfly' stylings, Jamie Foxx's character turns from innocent slave to 'Shaft' in the Wild West accompanied by a dreadful soundtrack to boot, there's even rap in this!.

Yes the film is violent which is cool but again Tarantino just goes way over board almost making the film a spoof in some places. Now having ridiculously huge exploding bloody squibs is top stuff, exhibit A: 'Robocop' and 'Total Recall'...the 90's version of course, what do you take me for!? geez!. But these films were futuristic sci-fi so you could believe the excess blood as possible with futuristic weapons. This film is a period set Western so it is totally ludicrous looking, of course its not suppose to be a serious film but these little things matter for your suspension of disbelief.

To be honest I was kinda expecting an old style Western much like Eastwood classics such as the 'Dollars' trilogy or 'Josey Wales' or the original 'Django' even!. But alas I was disappointed with this film, disappointed to see its just another excuse for Tarantino to use profanity and needless violence for almost three hours!!! wha!!!?.

Acting is pretty terrible from everybody bar Waltz who really should be in more serious epic roles where his talent would be better shown off. Jackson is perfect for the film as he gets to shout and swear continuously using his two favourite words whilst showing very little other talent, this man is the most over hyped actor in cinematic history. Didn't care about any of the characters a tall, only Waltz gave an interesting turn as the innocent peaceful dentist with a lethal hidden skill. Maybe they should of used Denzel Washington for 'Django', Foxx is bland and dull.

Not advisable to watch if you're a touchy liberal lefty that's for sure, this film may be a homage of sorts but the 'N' word is said so much you may come out thinking its OK to use it much like any other naughty word. I realise this film has done well but I simply can't understand why, I've seen a whole string of films recently which are far superior to this ('Killing Them Softly' 'Flight' 'Lincoln' 'Looper' 'Hobbit'). For me this had potential to be a really good serious Western ala 'Unforgiven' but instead its just more funky Tarantino retro trash.

(in reply to Empire Admin)
Post #: 61
RE: Django Unchained - 22/1/2013 9:00:07 AM   
Dead Mike

 

Posts: 54
Joined: 7/7/2011
Another awful review from Phubbs. For future reference, it's 'should have' not 'should of'.

Edit: Please see site rules for language relating to mental disability.

< Message edited by Rebenectomy -- 22/1/2013 2:06:13 PM >

(in reply to Phubbs)
Post #: 62
Too long too weak - 22/1/2013 9:49:59 AM   
smakris04

 

Posts: 52
Joined: 9/5/2006
Oddly enough after years of argument (from my side) this past year I started agreeing with your reviews again. The movie was good but had so many weaknesses that it looked bad. How many deus ex machina can one movie have? How many edit mistakes in important scenes can we forgive? The movie should have ended 20-30 minutes earlier with maybe the German killing everyone with a bomb and Django leaving happily everafter. It took the downhill after that and dropped two marks for me (I was going to give it 8 it went to 6) So I give it three stars and that's because I'm still excited coz I only watched it last night.

(in reply to Empire Admin)
Post #: 63
RE: Too long too weak - 22/1/2013 4:01:52 PM   
No Diggity

 

Posts: 30
Joined: 16/1/2013
Good, but no cigar. Should have been, and could have been, 30mins shorter at least. Enjoyed it, but its a 6 out of 10 for me.

(in reply to smakris04)
Post #: 64
RE: Django Unchained - 22/1/2013 4:31:24 PM   
Phubbs


Posts: 658
Joined: 3/4/2012

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dead Mike

Another awful review from Phubbs. For future reference, it's 'should have' not 'should of'.

Edit: Please see site rules for language relating to mental disability.



I really can't abide this fanboyism in films these days

(in reply to Dead Mike)
Post #: 65
RE: Django Unchained - 22/1/2013 4:34:44 PM   
Dead Mike

 

Posts: 54
Joined: 7/7/2011
Nothing to do with being a fanboy. Just pulled you up on your terribly written 'review'..

(in reply to Phubbs)
Post #: 66
RE: Django Unchained - 22/1/2013 5:46:09 PM   
jonson


Posts: 9133
Joined: 30/9/2005
Why is is terribly written? Only a proportion of the posts on here are reviews, and considering I don't think anyone claims to be a film reviewer by trade, I had no problems with it.
Phubbs - whether you agree with his reviews or not (it is all just an opinion after all) at least makes time to write a lengthy review, and I personally enjoy reading them.
Give me that over spam anyday

_____________________________

I've got all the Barbie ones!!!

Yeah but you're old. Really old. Old. Old. Old. Old.

(in reply to Dead Mike)
Post #: 67
RE: Django Unchained - 22/1/2013 6:37:25 PM   
Rgirvan44


Posts: 19049
Joined: 10/3/2006
From: Punishment Park
It is a shame people are missing the great great work Foxx does in the film.

_____________________________

It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to, than I have ever known.


(in reply to jonson)
Post #: 68
- 22/1/2013 7:00:06 PM   
danfacey711

 

Posts: 65
Joined: 18/10/2008
From: Oxford
Archetypal Tarantino - good music, good story, exciting dialogue, interesting characters and a massive shoot 'em up. Although slightly overstretched, this film is an exciting watch start to end.

(in reply to Empire Admin)
Post #: 69
RE: Django Unchained - 22/1/2013 7:15:12 PM   
porntrooper

 

Posts: 2616
Joined: 6/9/2006
From: Sheffield

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

It is a shame people are missing the great great work Foxx does in the film.


I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard a lot of how Foxx is the worst thing in the film and that Di Caprio and Waltz pretty much steal the show. I really am looking forward to catching it this Friday, as someone that things Inglorious Basterds is Tarantino's best work, I think this one is going to be right up my alley.

Off Topic, but Girv, did you get a re-tweet from Devin Faraci last night?

_____________________________

"I've got an idea for a special infiltration technique. It involves draining a man of his blood and replacing it with Tizer."

(in reply to Rgirvan44)
Post #: 70
RE: Django Unchained - 22/1/2013 8:47:51 PM   
Phubbs


Posts: 658
Joined: 3/4/2012

quote:

ORIGINAL: jonson

Why is is terribly written? Only a proportion of the posts on here are reviews, and considering I don't think anyone claims to be a film reviewer by trade, I had no problems with it.
Phubbs - whether you agree with his reviews or not (it is all just an opinion after all) at least makes time to write a lengthy review, and I personally enjoy reading them.
Give me that over spam anyday


Many thanks

I suspect he feels my review is 'terribly' written simply because he doesn't agree with my opinions. I always try to explain why I am negative or positive towards a film in my reviews. If I just put 'Django is crap' with no reasons or explanations then I would understand people having a go.

It's also very difficult to review films of certain franchises or made by certain people if they have strong fanboy bases, Nolan and Tarantino being good examples. Some people refuse to accept any negativity towards them.

(in reply to jonson)
Post #: 71
RE: Oh you silver tongued devil you - 22/1/2013 10:35:30 PM   
scary_ice

 

Posts: 179
Joined: 11/1/2007
From: Meath, Ireland

quote:

ORIGINAL: Qwerty Norris

Seen this yesterday and I'll attempt to do a lengthy review at a latter point.

The headlines? BIG SPOILERS - SERIOUSLY, LOOK AWAY NOW IF YOU'RE WANTING TO AVOID ANY PLOT DEVELOPMENTS ETC.

Damn you Quentin! You've done it again!

You were on a role; your self-indulgent streak was in check (despite occasionally threatening to rear its ugly head with pointless captions and song cues which at points disintegrated the tension & the suspension of disbelief), your narrative was free of tedious chapter titles / a meandering structure and you even suggested that our heroes were appalled by the nastiness of proceedings.

Then "the handshake" happens and everything I previously disliked about your approach (Kill Bill onwards) came to the surface all over again.

Why must you cast yourself in your films?
Why must you go over the top with your slow motions and choices of music? (both what and when it's used) You didn't do this with Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction? Is that because it was cheaper to do? Ironically, it was also better.
Why must your protagonists develop a masochistic streak in the final 30 minutes - making them as detestable as the people signified as the baddies?
Why must you suggest a natural ending, before defying that and going on for an additional 30 minutes that offers nothing but OTT violence, awkward plotting and punctures the sense of drama like a balloon?

You're a talented guy Quentin, but I'm fed up with your obsession with revenge pieces. It really is time to change the record.

3/5


I agree with this too. If it was wrapped up in the shootout that ensued in the immediate aftermath of the handshake then it probably would have been fine, but the needless detour and return to finish the job did nothing for me and like others have said ends the film in a deflated ponderous way.

I have to say the shootout was kinda boring for me. Not particularly exciting, no brilliant choreography, just people lining up to be shot. And the OTT squibs were ridiculously cartoony and seemed to jar awkwardly after the relatively restrained depictions of the slavers cruelty and brutality.

Whatever the criticisms of Kill Bill (I certainly dont think its a masterpiece either) I still consider the House of Blue Leaves sequence one of the greatest action scenes ever put to celluloid. Django's shootout is nowhere near its greatness.

(in reply to Qwerty Norris)
Post #: 72
RE: Django Unchained - 22/1/2013 10:50:09 PM   
Rgirvan44


Posts: 19049
Joined: 10/3/2006
From: Punishment Park

quote:

ORIGINAL: porntrooper


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

It is a shame people are missing the great great work Foxx does in the film.


I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard a lot of how Foxx is the worst thing in the film and that Di Caprio and Waltz pretty much steal the show. I really am looking forward to catching it this Friday, as someone that things Inglorious Basterds is Tarantino's best work, I think this one is going to be right up my alley.

Off Topic, but Girv, did you get a re-tweet from Devin Faraci last night?


Foxx does really good work - the whole point of his character is to become bigger than life. He has an honest to goodness arc in the film.

And yeah, that was me!

_____________________________

It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to, than I have ever known.


(in reply to porntrooper)
Post #: 73
RE: Django Unchained - 22/1/2013 11:19:11 PM   
scary_ice

 

Posts: 179
Joined: 11/1/2007
From: Meath, Ireland

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44


quote:

ORIGINAL: porntrooper


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

It is a shame people are missing the great great work Foxx does in the film.


I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard a lot of how Foxx is the worst thing in the film and that Di Caprio and Waltz pretty much steal the show. I really am looking forward to catching it this Friday, as someone that things Inglorious Basterds is Tarantino's best work, I think this one is going to be right up my alley.

Off Topic, but Girv, did you get a re-tweet from Devin Faraci last night?


Foxx does really good work - the whole point of his character is to become bigger than life. He has an honest to goodness arc in the film.

And yeah, that was me!


I thought Foxx was great. The Empire review gives him pretty short shrift. I liked his softly-spoken style. Timid and unsure at the start. When he was playing the part of the slaver it was like he was holding in all his anger, hissing out his words between gritted teeth, and then in the end strutting around righteously, full of confidence. Great stuff.

(in reply to Rgirvan44)
Post #: 74
RE: Oh you silver tongued devil you - 22/1/2013 11:45:48 PM   
frankie


Posts: 1085
Joined: 30/9/2005
From: Manchester
quote:

ORIGINAL: scary_ice


quote:

ORIGINAL: Qwerty Norris

Seen this yesterday and I'll attempt to do a lengthy review at a latter point.

The headlines? BIG SPOILERS - SERIOUSLY, LOOK AWAY NOW IF YOU'RE WANTING TO AVOID ANY PLOT DEVELOPMENTS ETC.

Damn you Quentin! You've done it again!

You were on a role; your self-indulgent streak was in check (despite occasionally threatening to rear its ugly head with pointless captions and song cues which at points disintegrated the tension & the suspension of disbelief), your narrative was free of tedious chapter titles / a meandering structure and you even suggested that our heroes were appalled by the nastiness of proceedings.

Then "the handshake" happens and everything I previously disliked about your approach (Kill Bill onwards) came to the surface all over again.

Why must you cast yourself in your films?
Why must you go over the top with your slow motions and choices of music? (both what and when it's used) You didn't do this with Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction? Is that because it was cheaper to do? Ironically, it was also better.
Why must your protagonists develop a masochistic streak in the final 30 minutes - making them as detestable as the people signified as the baddies?
Why must you suggest a natural ending, before defying that and going on for an additional 30 minutes that offers nothing but OTT violence, awkward plotting and punctures the sense of drama like a balloon?

You're a talented guy Quentin, but I'm fed up with your obsession with revenge pieces. It really is time to change the record.

3/5


I agree with this too. If it was wrapped up in the shootout that ensued in the immediate aftermath of the handshake then it probably would have been fine, but the needless detour and return to finish the job did nothing for me and like others have said ends the film in a deflated ponderous way.

I have to say the shootout was kinda boring for me. Not particularly exciting, no brilliant choreography, just people lining up to be shot. And the OTT squibs were ridiculously cartoony and seemed to jar awkwardly after the relatively restrained depictions of the slavers cruelty and brutality.

Whatever the criticisms of Kill Bill (I certainly dont think its a masterpiece either) I still consider the House of Blue Leaves sequence one of the greatest action scenes ever put to celluloid. Django's shootout is nowhere near its greatness.


Just seen it.
Agree with the two quoted posts above completely.

I was there when Reservoir Dogs was given 5 stars in Empire, I was there on opening night, I was distraught when it was banned from being released on VHS during the "Child's Play, Daily Mail" debacle and I was at the one night showing of 'Dogs' again last week when I introduced my son to his first 18 certificate film at the cinema.
Then we flash forward to tonight.
Quentin, Quentin, Quentin!!! Why are you continuing to hand in your first draft as the finished assignment? Your first 2 or 3 works showed off your obvious talent to it's best, but now you hastily write the piece and spend the rest of the time telling everyone how great you are. But you don't need to tell us, we saw it ourselves with Pulp and Dogs and True Romance and Jackie Brown. Stop trying to convince with showmanship and just put more effort into condensing your many ideas into one comprehensive piece. Must try harder Quentin.


< Message edited by frankie -- 22/1/2013 11:46:33 PM >


_____________________________

A golden future awaits you. Just kidding.

(in reply to scary_ice)
Post #: 75
RE: Oh you silver tongued devil you - 23/1/2013 12:22:51 AM   
horribleives

 

Posts: 5071
Joined: 12/6/2009
From: The North
I agree that Foxx (and the whole cast for that matter) were brilliant but jesus, much as I enjoyed the film, the amount of unneccesary dialogue/scenes etc just wore me down after a while. In some ways I love the fact that a film-maker like Tarantino has the freedom to do what he wants but boy could he do with a no-nonsense script editor. I'd also love to have seen the same material produced in a more serious, less hyper-stylised manner, but I guess that's just not what he does these days - Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown look like Alan Clarke films compared to Kill Bill or Django.

_____________________________

www.hollywoodunbound.co.uk - some nonsense about alien film directors and musclebound man-children.

(in reply to frankie)
Post #: 76
RE: Oh you silver tongued devil you - 23/1/2013 12:23:12 AM   
adambatman82

 

Posts: 11156
Joined: 15/12/2005

quote:

ORIGINAL: jrewing1000
While most people feel Django Unchained is too long


I don't think this is particularly the case. I certainly wouldn't say it was the consensus.

That some have an issue with the running time of a film that is less than 3 hours long says more about those complaining than anything.

(in reply to jrewing1000)
Post #: 77
RE: Oh you silver tongued devil you - 23/1/2013 12:26:12 AM   
horribleives

 

Posts: 5071
Joined: 12/6/2009
From: The North

quote:

ORIGINAL: adambatman82


quote:

ORIGINAL: jrewing1000
While most people feel Django Unchained is too long


I don't think this is particularly the case. I certainly wouldn't say it was the consensus.

That some have an issue with the running time of a film that is less than 3 hours long says more about those complaining than anything.


I agree - I don't have any issue with the running time as such (I love a long film) more that huge parts of that running time were made up of superfluous clutter.

_____________________________

www.hollywoodunbound.co.uk - some nonsense about alien film directors and musclebound man-children.

(in reply to adambatman82)
Post #: 78
RE: Oh you silver tongued devil you - 23/1/2013 12:31:51 AM   
adambatman82

 

Posts: 11156
Joined: 15/12/2005

quote:

ORIGINAL: horribleives


quote:

ORIGINAL: adambatman82


quote:

ORIGINAL: jrewing1000
While most people feel Django Unchained is too long


I don't think this is particularly the case. I certainly wouldn't say it was the consensus.

That some have an issue with the running time of a film that is less than 3 hours long says more about those complaining than anything.


I agree - I don't have any issue with the running time as such (I love a long film) more that huge parts of that running time were made up of superfluous clutter.


Like what exactly? I'm not being awkward here, I genuinely thought it was a really well paced movie for the most part, and was exactly what I expected of a Tarantino film. He's always shot lengthy dialogue sequences, it's his calling card. I also thought that it really captured the atmosphere of the films which I saw as it's greatest influences too.

(in reply to horribleives)
Post #: 79
RE: Oh you silver tongued devil you - 23/1/2013 12:34:57 AM   
Rgirvan44


Posts: 19049
Joined: 10/3/2006
From: Punishment Park
Having seen it a second time, the thing moves really quickly. Really quickly.

_____________________________

It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to, than I have ever known.


(in reply to adambatman82)
Post #: 80
RE: Oh you silver tongued devil you - 23/1/2013 12:46:19 AM   
adambatman82

 

Posts: 11156
Joined: 15/12/2005

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

Having seen it a second time, the thing moves really quickly. Really quickly.


It's only ten minutes longer than Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown and Inglourious Basterds, and I actually think it feels shorter, such is the pacing, and such is the prominence of the odd action sequence here and there.

(in reply to Rgirvan44)
Post #: 81
RE: Oh you silver tongued devil you - 23/1/2013 1:22:54 AM   
scary_ice

 

Posts: 179
Joined: 11/1/2007
From: Meath, Ireland
Overall I enjoyed it. More than Inglourious Basterds and certainly more than Death Proof. I haven't seen either of the Kill Bills in a while so I can't be sure but Im pretty sure it's better than them too. I don't have a problem with long films (although they do seem to be more prevalent nowadays) but the final 30 mins or so of this just seemed flabby. Boring, predictable shootouts, a terrible Tarantino cameo, traditional revenge movie ending. A so-so finish to a movie I was really enjoying.

(in reply to adambatman82)
Post #: 82
RE: Oh you silver tongued devil you - 23/1/2013 4:09:20 AM   
Phubbs


Posts: 658
Joined: 3/4/2012
quote:

ORIGINAL: Qwerty Norris

Seen this yesterday and I'll attempt to do a lengthy review at a latter point.

The headlines? BIG SPOILERS - SERIOUSLY, LOOK AWAY NOW IF YOU'RE WANTING TO AVOID ANY PLOT DEVELOPMENTS ETC.

Damn you Quentin! You've done it again!

You were on a role; your self-indulgent streak was in check (despite occasionally threatening to rear its ugly head with pointless captions and song cues which at points disintegrated the tension & the suspension of disbelief), your narrative was free of tedious chapter titles / a meandering structure and you even suggested that our heroes were appalled by the nastiness of proceedings.

Then "the handshake" happens and everything I previously disliked about your approach (Kill Bill onwards) came to the surface all over again.

Why must you cast yourself in your films?
Why must you go over the top with your slow motions and choices of music? (both what and when it's used) You didn't do this with Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction? Is that because it was cheaper to do? Ironically, it was also better.
Why must your protagonists develop a masochistic streak in the final 30 minutes - making them as detestable as the people signified as the baddies?
Why must you suggest a natural ending, before defying that and going on for an additional 30 minutes that offers nothing but OTT violence, awkward plotting and punctures the sense of drama like a balloon?

You're a talented guy Quentin, but I'm fed up with your obsession with revenge pieces. It really is time to change the record.

3/5



Agree with this too.


(in reply to scary_ice)
Post #: 83
RE: Oh you silver tongued devil you - 23/1/2013 9:54:01 AM   
Hood_Man


Posts: 12191
Joined: 30/9/2005
Although I thought the film came to a halt when Tarantino walked on, I was still shocked when I walked out of the film & realised it was only a few minutes shorter than The Hobbit. It really didn't feel like it.

(in reply to Phubbs)
Post #: 84
RE: Oh you silver tongued devil you - 23/1/2013 10:12:37 AM   
MOTH

 

Posts: 3479
Joined: 3/10/2005
From: Sittin' on the dock of the bay
Have you seen Tarantino do interviews about this? That's what the film is like. A lot of talking, veers between intense and playful, slightly mad, makes constant reference to movie and TV inspirations. All of which is pretty entertaining stuff. But it also rambles on a bit too long, is slightly bloated and is a bit untidy at times. Still, it's a vast improvement on Tarantino's last few films, the actors are having a whale of a time and it's thoroughly enjoyable. Also, I didn't realize Crabman from My Name is Earl played Django in the early scenes of the movie. (8/10)

_____________________________

I've only gone and set up a blog! This week I've been mostly reviewing The Lego Movie and Wadjda. Click: The Fast Picture Show

(in reply to Hood_Man)
Post #: 85
RE: Oh you silver tongued devil you - 23/1/2013 1:19:26 PM   
jcthefirst


Posts: 4425
Joined: 6/10/2005
From: Bangor

quote:

ORIGINAL: MOTH

Have you seen Tarantino do interviews about this? That's what the film is like. A lot of talking, veers between intense and playful, slightly mad, makes constant reference to movie and TV inspirations. All of which is pretty entertaining stuff. But it also rambles on a bit too long, is slightly bloated and is a bit untidy at times. Still, it's a vast improvement on Tarantino's last few films, the actors are having a whale of a time and it's thoroughly enjoyable. Also, I didn't realize Crabman from My Name is Earl played Django in the early scenes of the movie. (8/10)


That made me pause for the slightest of moments there. Then I remembered what Django looked like at the beginning of the film.

_____________________________

@Jonny_C85

My Movie Blog | My Other Various Rantings Blog

(in reply to MOTH)
Post #: 86
RE: Oh you silver tongued devil you - 23/1/2013 2:17:15 PM   
Qwerty Norris


Posts: 3989
Joined: 26/10/2005
From: Edinburgh

quote:

ORIGINAL: adambatman82


quote:

ORIGINAL: jrewing1000
While most people feel Django Unchained is too long


I don't think this is particularly the case. I certainly wouldn't say it was the consensus.

That some have an issue with the running time of a film that is less than 3 hours long says more about those complaining than anything.


For a film of its length It certainly didn't feel long, but the final 30 to 40 minutes were completely unnecessary for me (for the reasons I've stated already).

Had he ended things within 5 to 10 minutes of the handshake and worked out a suitable ending to bring that sequence (and the film itself) to a satisfying climax, it would have resulted in his best work since Jackie Brown - easily.

So it's not really a case of being too long as such, but more how he's using that running time. For me, both Kill Bill films could easily have been 1. Death Proof should have been a short (or not exist at all) & Inglorious is a collection of some really well executed set pieces yet when assembled together, the feature is flabby as hell (and occasionally, seriously misjudged).

There's nowt wrong with lengthy features, but I do feel that the ones in the second half of QT's career have predicated his self-indulgent nature - which I continue to find really frustrating given his obvious talents.

_____________________________

Qwerty's Top 10 of 2013 (so far)

1. Zero Dark Thirty
2. No
3. A Hijacking
4. Behind the Candelabra
5. In The Fog
6. Good Vibrations
7. McCullin
8. Beyond the Hills
9. The Place Beyond the Pines
10. Wreck-it Ralph

(in reply to adambatman82)
Post #: 87
RE: Oh you silver tongued devil you - 23/1/2013 2:35:03 PM   
adambatman82

 

Posts: 11156
Joined: 15/12/2005

quote:

ORIGINAL: Qwerty Norris

Had he ended things within 5 to 10 minutes of the handshake and worked out a suitable ending to bring that sequence (and the film itself) to a satisfying climax, it would have resulted in his best work since Jackie Brown - easily.




I don't know, the pause between the handshake shootout and the final act of revenge was necessary to show Django's route to freedom coming full circle. I think him getting himself out of the Australian situation, and going back on his own was very important to the characterisation of the guy.

(in reply to Qwerty Norris)
Post #: 88
A Tonic For Tired Eyes. - 23/1/2013 3:08:39 PM   
Rich Empire

 

Posts: 901
Joined: 6/12/2005
From: London
The glorious Sunday afternoon epic from Quentin Tarantino.
Once again fantastic meaty dialogue, delivered with panache by it's excellent ensemble cast.
Beautifully shot, great fun yet at it's heart it still carried the graveness of the issues of slavery
A couple of the music cues didn't quite fit in, I'm not too sure about some of the Hip Hop for example. Though with Tarantino films I personally have an allowance for that.
All in all, Raw, Reliable, Class.

(in reply to Empire Admin)
Post #: 89
RE: Oh you silver tongued devil you - 23/1/2013 4:57:28 PM   
Don_a_van


Posts: 98
Joined: 30/1/2007

quote:

ORIGINAL: Qwerty Norris


quote:

ORIGINAL: adambatman82


quote:

ORIGINAL: jrewing1000
While most people feel Django Unchained is too long


I don't think this is particularly the case. I certainly wouldn't say it was the consensus.

That some have an issue with the running time of a film that is less than 3 hours long says more about those complaining than anything.


For a film of its length It certainly didn't feel long, but the final 30 to 40 minutes were completely unnecessary for me (for the reasons I've stated already).

Had he ended things within 5 to 10 minutes of the handshake and worked out a suitable ending to bring that sequence (and the film itself) to a satisfying climax, it would have resulted in his best work since Jackie Brown - easily.

So it's not really a case of being too long as such, but more how he's using that running time. For me, both Kill Bill films could easily have been 1. Death Proof should have been a short (or not exist at all) & Inglorious is a collection of some really well executed set pieces yet when assembled together, the feature is flabby as hell (and occasionally, seriously misjudged).

There's nowt wrong with lengthy features, but I do feel that the ones in the second half of QT's career have predicated his self-indulgent nature - which I continue to find really frustrating given his obvious talents.


Spot on IMO, QT has got talent, no doubt about that, a lof of his scenes are outstanding, mainly due to QT's terrific sense for tension building or just plain cool dialogue. It's just a shame he doesn't seem to have the self control to reign it in when required, sometimes less is definately more.

Oh and whoever said Samuel L Jackson is really isn't as good as people think he is has got that spot on too. He isn't terrible but playing the same mutha-f*ckin character (see what I did there) for the last 20 years, even when it's not appropriate, is really getting old.

(in reply to Qwerty Norris)
Post #: 90
Page:   <<   < prev  1 2 [3] 4 5   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Film Forums] >> Film Reviews >> RE: Django Unchained Page: <<   < prev  1 2 [3] 4 5   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


 
Movie News  |  Empire Blog  |  Movie Reviews  |  Future Films  |  Features  |  Video Interviews  |  Image Gallery  |  Competitions  |  Forum  |  Magazine  |  Resources
 
Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.4.5 ANSI

0.109