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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 3:49:51 AM   
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I am an athiest... I don't disrespect any one who believes in religion, I hope that that they find faith and comfort in their chosen beliefs, but I haven't got it in me to follow that path...

But, right now, I wish I believed in Heaven and Hell, so I could believe that the evil motherfucking cunt who did what he did today would scream in Hell forever.



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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 10:19:40 AM   
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I am an athiest... I don't disrespect any one who believes in religion, I hope that that they find faith and comfort in their chosen beliefs, but I haven't got it in me to follow that path...

But, right now, I wish I believed in Heaven and Hell, so I could believe that the evil motherfucking cunt who did what he did today would scream in Hell forever.



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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 12:45:41 PM   
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Am I the only one who finds the media interviews 'what did you see?' with very young children distasteful and uncomfortable?

Two idgits right here...

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 1:42:21 PM   
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I am an athiest... I don't disrespect any one who believes in religion, I hope that that they find faith and comfort in their chosen beliefs, but I haven't got it in me to follow that path...

But, right now, I wish I believed in Heaven and Hell, so I could believe that the evil motherfucking cunt who did what he did today would scream in Hell forever.



Good post.


Although i'm not religious, i still consider myself a believer in the spiritual world, and that theres more to life than just the material world we see around us. And i sincerely hope that that sonuvabitch gets slowly roasted alive in a fiery furnace, for eternity.

And those innocent little children and adults who were taken away so cruelly find peace and solace in heaven.

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 1:45:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Erlenmeyer Flask

Am I the only one who finds the media interviews 'what did you see?' with very young children distasteful and uncomfortable?

Two idgits right here...


The media shouldn't be anywhere near the children.

And concerning the "Arm Teachers",Jesus I'm not sure rether to laugh or cry..
edit:Just watched the video all the way through.Those are two of the biggest numb-nuts on the planet.


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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 2:15:26 PM   
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The thing is when you have a cult as the NRA appears to be you know people like that will crawl from the wood work. What would have happened if a firefight had started and more bullets were flying and it turned out teachers had killed children in error? It is the same argument they put forward when there was the cinema shooting if the cinema had allowed armed people in then there wouldn't have been any problem" ignoring the fact that there are stray bullets even when the person shooting is a trained professional.

I have to agree that the media should not have been allowed any where near the children.

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 2:16:12 PM   
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I agree something needed to be donw vis a vis the gun law/controls in the states a long time ago but the sad thing is there are so many millions of guns out there already, any frikkin nutter who wants to kill people can get their hands on one pretty easily. IF they don't already have them
I really don't know what to say. Except that if Obama can make any kind of changes then we can pray that some day down the line lives will have been saved.
Suffice to say my thoughts are with those poor people....


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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 2:39:24 PM   
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When you've got dicks like Iraqveteran8888(link) on Youtube glorifying gun power then its no wonder you'll get psychos going around creating horrific violence.
Obama needs to step down hard on this issue.

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 3:30:10 PM   
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Why the feck does the average citizen need that sort of machinery? Oh wait, I forgot, to protect themselves against government tyranny.

It was difficult enough to get his healthcare law passed. Can't see him succeeding on guns.

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 3:40:14 PM   
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Basically it all boils down to paranoia with the Americans and there weaponry.Everyone is on a knife edge.

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 5:31:40 PM   
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Can't see him succeeding on guns.



Realistically, no. But the moral imperative is on him to at least try.


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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 5:53:35 PM   
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Saw a photo that really annoyed me earlier: a banner someone had made that said "God bless the families". So if you believe such things, presumably this would be the same god who decided to set the wheels of this massacre in motion and then chose which children lived and died. Not wanting to sidetrack but this is why I really hate religion at times, and no doubt the poor families will be barraged with patronising crap like "God is with you, the strength of the lord will get you through, blah blah". If I hear one arsehole come out with a line like "God needed 20 angels in heaven" then I think I'm gona break something.
Anyway, to echo what most have said, definitely time for tighter gun control but can't see much happening any time soon. Very very sad.

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 6:05:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Darth Marenghi


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Can't see him succeeding on guns.



Realistically, no. But the moral imperative is on him to at least try.



He did look genuinely upset which may give him the impetus to try (along with being in a second term). If at the very least the assault rifles and armour piercing bullets are significantly restricted that alone would be something.

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 6:13:31 PM   
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Saw a photo that really annoyed me earlier: a banner someone had made that said "God bless the families". So if you believe such things, presumably this would be the same god who decided to set the wheels of this massacre in motion and then chose which children lived and died. Not wanting to sidetrack but this is why I really hate religion at times, and no doubt the poor families will be barraged with patronising crap like "God is with you, the strength of the lord will get you through, blah blah". If I hear one arsehole come out with a line like "God needed 20 angels in heaven" then I think I'm gona break something.
Anyway, to echo what most have said, definitely time for tighter gun control but can't see much happening any time soon. Very very sad.


I wouldn't neccassarily see how a banner saying 'God bless the families' would be deemed offensive. I think the majority of the families will find strength through faith, whatever religion they follow. If there is a god and a devil, you could argue it was the devil who was responsible for this henious act rather than god, or maybe he was just plain evil (the killer) couldn't you? Bah. Nevermind.

My thoughts go out to the families.

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 8:50:31 PM   
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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 9:02:04 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLZ1xX9GC8E&list=UUWJHDMgKWWvOsdyRF3HPVEw&index=6
"Uh,well,When I was a child err guns were sporting equipment"
oh..dear


From the comments:
"tragedies can be avoided if people would carry a firearm with them at all times."

"By banning guns you're only lying to yourself, and limiting the freedom of others."

"Yeah then when the two nutbags break into your house both toting {ILLEGALFIREARMS} and rape your wife and beat and kill your kids in front of you while your in the corner crying wishing you had a gun.Trust me i`ve had to use my firearm on an intruder before not fun but my family are still alive and well..We dont want a country where the good guy cant defend his most important thing in the world witch is his family."

Fuuuuuck me.

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 9:26:53 PM   
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I absolutely refuse to read Youtube comments as they often drive me to want to punch something.....

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 10:15:14 PM   
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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 10:20:36 PM   
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I have them blocked on Chrome so I'm not even tempted. There are stupid and offensive comments under even the most innocent things like episodes of cartoons. Horrible trolling twats.

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 10:25:46 PM   
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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 11:25:58 PM   
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I don't know much about foreign policies or what have you, but what would be the worst thing to happen if Obama just banned guns? Have the NRA really got that much of a hold over a superpower? What would they actually do if Obama even hinted at it, by say possibly mentioning that Australia haven't had a mass shooting in ten years after they introduced gun control?



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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 11:33:13 PM   
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Because there's a limit on what Obama can do unilaterally. It depends on what remit he has within his power to create executive orders. 

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 11:37:51 PM   
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I don't know much about foreign policies or what have you, but what would be the worst thing to happen if Obama just banned guns? Have the NRA really got that much of a hold over a superpower?



Quite a lot of the superpower are in the NRA. And those that are not, support the whole 'owning guns' thing.

Also, the NRA have guns and aren't going to give them up easily.....


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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 11:42:29 PM   
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Saw a photo that really annoyed me earlier: a banner someone had made that said "God bless the families". So if you believe such things, presumably this would be the same god who decided to set the wheels of this massacre in motion and then chose which children lived and died. Not wanting to sidetrack but this is why I really hate religion at times, and no doubt the poor families will be barraged with patronising crap like "God is with you, the strength of the lord will get you through, blah blah". If I hear one arsehole come out with a line like "God needed 20 angels in heaven" then I think I'm gona break something.
Anyway, to echo what most have said, definitely time for tighter gun control but can't see much happening any time soon. Very very sad.


Agreed. As if some mumbo-jumbo religious horseshit is any consolation for twenty kids and eight adults getting mowed down by some fucking psycho.

Fuck the piece of shit who did this.

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 11:43:59 PM   
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I know that it would never happen, it sickens me to think that Democracy is a lie. But what's new eh?
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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 11:52:04 PM   
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Unfortunately it's their democracy that pretty much stops it. Nuts with money though the NRA are, access to guns has widespread popular support and large chunks of the legislature represent that view of the people. An Executive Order is more generally rare because it's the opposite of democracy - it's a diktat that circumvents the normal process.

'course that doesn't mean it's wrong. And they have been used in the past to push through the right thing whether Congress et al liked it or not - there are a few in the process of the civil rights movement.

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 15/12/2012 11:59:42 PM   
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Here in the UK, if you're suffering from some form of emotional/mental malady you can pop off to your GP and bag yourself some selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.

In the US you go to Walmart and buy some bullets.

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 16/12/2012 12:14:23 AM   
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Unfortunately it's their democracy that pretty much stops it. Nuts with money though the NRA are, access to guns has widespread popular support and large chunks of the legislature represent that view of the people. An Executive Order is more generally rare because it's the opposite of democracy - it's a diktat that circumvents the normal process.

'course that doesn't mean it's wrong. And they have been used in the past to push through the right thing whether Congress et al liked it or not - there are a few in the process of the civil rights movement.


I know, you're right and I do feel a bit weird commentating on another countries' issues to be honest. We've got enough problems in the UK, but they seem pale in comparison to the U.S. stuff.


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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 16/12/2012 9:46:45 AM   
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Was just reading about the teacher who hid her kids in the classrom cupboard. The gunman came in and she managed to convince him that the kids were in the gym. The bastard then shot her. She saved those kids' lives. I feel sick.

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RE: US Primary School Shooting. - 16/12/2012 10:53:57 AM   
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Was just reading about the teacher who hid her kids in the classroom cupboard. The gunman came in and she managed to convince him that the kids were in the gym. The bastard then shot her. She saved those kids' lives. I feel sick.



She is the definition of a hero. This is an event which is difficult to even comprehend.

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