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RE: Remakes you want - 26/11/2012 3:11:59 PM   
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There's another thread that surfaced about "The Keep" which had Gabriel Byrne and Jurgen Prochnow as Nazis who unearth a demon in WWII Poland. It's a real cult classic, but from what I've read, the film doesn't do the book justice and from what I remember, I think the 80s arty stylings (replete with Tangerine Dream soundtrack) might be a bit dated now. I think a remake could improve on the original given the technology jump from now to then. Of course, tech doesn't make up for good performances, but I really reckon a do-over of "The Keep" isn't a bad shout.

Thread about it is here; http://www.empireonline.com/forum/tm.asp?m=3538109&mpage=1&key=&NID=0#3538109

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RE: Remakes you want - 26/11/2012 4:27:50 PM   
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Pet semetary is the only one I quibble about being remade, it is well done but it could be a lot better. For Jud you would need Jeff Bridges or someone with class to hold a candle to the original Jud. The creepy sister bit when she chases the woman also still kinda scares the crap outta me.

I thought IT wasn't a proper film actually since I have it in two parts, I prefer the first part overall.
If you consider it to be a film I think it needs a lot of editing, I think there's a lot of pointless montage type bits, the part where they sit down and have a laughing and eating dinner montage sticks out.

Another one I think needs re-adapting is The TommyKnockers, I think this was a tv series or something and I really quite like it but it could be made much better as it has a decent premise.



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RE: Remakes you want - 26/11/2012 5:36:42 PM   
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I thought IT wasn't a proper film actually since I have it in two parts, I prefer the first part overall.


Yes, it's not a film. it's a mini-series in two parts.

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If you consider it to be a film I think it needs a lot of editing, I think there's a lot of pointless montage type bits, the part where they sit down and have a laughing and eating dinner montage sticks out.


To be fair that sequence lasts less than a minute and they have just met for the first time in 30 years. The novel is massive and complex, and a great deal was cut out just to get it down to three hours. I really don't see how one could do it justice by trying to cram it into feature film length. Like I said TV offers the time for a lengthy adaptation but there always seems to be a compromise on the horror, and vice versa for film. But you've got two time-lines, and a huge principal and secondary cast, not to mention all the relevant back-story. You'd need a couple more hours to get it all in. People would argue that you wouldn't have to be that faithful to the book, which is fair enough, but then why bother in the first place?

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Another one I think needs re-adapting is The TommyKnockers, I think this was a tv series or something and I really quite like it but it could be made much better as it has a decent premise.



Have to agree. It was another mini-series and it was shite. Badly miscast and cheap-looking. The book itself is fairly insane - in fact King has since admitted to writing it whilst off his head on cocaine - and in the right hands I think it could be something special.


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RE: Remakes you want - 26/11/2012 8:02:11 PM   
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How about this?




Yeah, that's a bit scarier, but I think you're still thinking about male bums. I mean, a massive weapon firing off endless rounds into other men?



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RE: Remakes you want - 26/11/2012 8:06:00 PM   
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Wow......you just took that to a weird place, didn't you?



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RE: Remakes you want - 26/11/2012 9:21:36 PM   
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Wow......you just took that to a weird place, didn't you?




Hey, I work with what you give me...



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RE: Remakes you want - 26/11/2012 9:26:05 PM   
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Wow......you just took that to a weird place, didn't you?




Hey, I work with what you give me...





Have you reviewed Expendables 2 yet? I'd read that...

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RE: Remakes you want - 26/11/2012 9:27:32 PM   
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Have to agree. It was another mini-series and it was shite. Badly miscast and cheap-looking. The book itself is fairly insane - in fact King has since admitted to writing it whilst off his head on cocaine - and in the right hands I think it could be something special.



Yeah, The Tommyknockers is desperately disappointing compared to the book (which was unputdownable). The last third is an absolutely corking relentless pursuit that just doesn't even feature in the mini-series and fails to make Gard the absolute hero he is. Insane, yes, but balls to the wall awesome all the same.

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RE: Remakes you want - 26/11/2012 9:56:03 PM   
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Wow......you just took that to a weird place, didn't you?




Hey, I work with what you give me...





Have you reviewed Expendables 2 yet? I'd read that...


Ain't seen Expendables 2 yet... too busy trying on leotards and growing a moustache... hey, it works for Shifty!

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RE: Remakes you want - 26/11/2012 11:10:07 PM   
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Have to agree. It was another mini-series and it was shite. Badly miscast and cheap-looking. The book itself is fairly insane - in fact King has since admitted to writing it whilst off his head on cocaine - and in the right hands I think it could be something special.



Yeah, The Tommyknockers is desperately disappointing compared to the book (which was unputdownable). The last third is an absolutely corking relentless pursuit that just doesn't even feature in the mini-series and fails to make Gard the absolute hero he is. Insane, yes, but balls to the wall awesome all the same.


Absolutely. And as much as I loved Jimmy Smits in NYPD Blue I felt he was all wrong for the part of Gard. These days...maybe Mark Ruffalo?

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RE: Remakes you want - 26/11/2012 11:36:35 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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quote:

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Wow......you just took that to a weird place, didn't you?




Hey, I work with what you give me...





Have you reviewed Expendables 2 yet? I'd read that...


Ain't seen Expendables 2 yet... too busy trying on leotards and growing a moustache... hey, it works for Shifty!




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RE: Remakes you want - 27/11/2012 3:47:53 AM   
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quote:

To be fair that sequence lasts less than a minute and they have just met for the first time in 30 years. The novel is massive and complex, and a great deal was cut out just to get it down to three hours. I really don't see how one could do it justice by trying to cram it into feature film length. Like I said TV offers the time for a lengthy adaptation but there always seems to be a compromise on the horror, and vice versa for film. But you've got two time-lines, and a huge principal and secondary cast, not to mention all the relevant back-story. You'd need a couple more hours to get it all in. People would argue that you wouldn't have to be that faithful to the book, which is fair enough, but then why bother in the first place?



I know what you mean about IT and to be fair I've not read the book, but speaking as someone who is just watching it I think it could have been edited down some. I think this is probably gonna be one of the first to get re-adapted though just because it's a easy premise to sell 'evil clown that lives in sewers eating kids' it would be easy to make a disturbing and cool looking trailer for.

The only thing I'm worried about is we will probably end up with something like the remake of nightmare on elm street.

Who would be your first choice for Pennywise?

I can't think of anyone more perfect than John C. Reilly, the guy can seriously act, he's good at comedy and I think he has a great face for a clown. I think he could play him really menacingly.

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RE: Remakes you want - 27/11/2012 4:45:16 AM   
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just found this.
IT-REMAKE-NEWS

Exciting.

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RE: Remakes you want - 27/11/2012 10:02:10 AM   
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Who would be your first choice for Pennywise?



Tim Curry.

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RE: Remakes you want - 27/11/2012 2:25:41 PM   
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Who would be your first choice for Pennywise?



Tim Curry.



I don't know, I just wouldn't do a remake and then cast the same person for Pennywise, seems a bit lame and lazy to me,


How about after Curry? I agree he's great in the original btw

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RE: Remakes you want - 27/11/2012 9:04:59 PM   
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Hey, you posted the original moustache / leotard / suspiciously over-macho picture! Just having a laugh, mate, all the best to you and yours.

Now, to the remake of IT... wasn't there talk of making two movies out of that novel, one with the kids and one with the adults? I might have that wrong, but it's a brilliant idea, one that could only do justice to a 800-page novel. And only if if they make it a full-on horror movie, not some 12-rated bullshit.

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Wow......you just took that to a weird place, didn't you?




Hey, I work with what you give me...





Have you reviewed Expendables 2 yet? I'd read that...


Ain't seen Expendables 2 yet... too busy trying on leotards and growing a moustache... hey, it works for Shifty!






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RE: Remakes you want - 27/11/2012 9:19:01 PM   
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Hey, Shifty, you posted the moustache / leotard / slightly over-macho picture!

No matter, all the best.

Now, to the remake of IT... wasn't there talk of doing two movies, one with the kids, one with the adults? That is a brilliant idea! The only way to do justice to a 900-page novel. But it will be weak if they go through the whole 12-certificate thing, it's a full-on novel and needs a full-on movie treatment.

Unless they try and go for the whole....

SPOILERS!




... children having sex thing....






SPOILERS END

... in which case we will have The Daily Mail calling us all perverts. No matter. Two movies made out of IT would be something to look forward to.

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RE: Remakes you want - 27/11/2012 9:31:35 PM   
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Hey, Shifty, you posted the moustache / leotard / slightly over-macho picture!



I posted a gif of a character from a film you said was shit as a jokey response. You made gay jokes at my expense.

Not exactly the same, is it?

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RE: Remakes you want - 27/11/2012 10:43:47 PM   
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Hey, Shifty, you posted the moustache / leotard / slightly over-macho picture!



I posted a gif of a character from a film you said was shit as a jokey response. You made gay jokes at my expense.

Not exactly the same, is it?


Shifty, if I have offended you, I truly and completely apologise. Thought it was a bit of silly banter between two people who really love films and don't mind going a bit near the knuckle. If that's not the case, then, again, I offer my apologies.

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RE: Remakes you want - 27/11/2012 10:50:01 PM   
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Shifty, if I have offended you, I truly and completely apologise. Thought it was a bit of silly banter between two people who really love films and don't mind going a bit near the knuckle. If that's not the case, then, again, I offer my apologies.


Hey dude, that is how I was taking it but YOU posted this-

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Hey, Shifty, you posted the moustache / leotard / slightly over-macho picture!

No matter, all the best.


I posted a comedy gif in response to your comment as I was taking it as a joke. So, no, you didn't offend me but I clearly offended you by posting that gif and by not being as hilarious as your good self.

(and in case you are wondering, THAT was a joke)

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RE: Remakes you want - 27/11/2012 11:24:11 PM   
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Shifty, if I have offended you, I truly and completely apologise. Thought it was a bit of silly banter between two people who really love films and don't mind going a bit near the knuckle. If that's not the case, then, again, I offer my apologies.


Hey dude, that is how I was taking it but YOU posted this-

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Hey, Shifty, you posted the moustache / leotard / slightly over-macho picture!

No matter, all the best.


I posted a comedy gif in response to your comment as I was taking it as a joke. So, no, you didn't offend me but I clearly offended you by posting that gif and by not being as hilarious as your good self.

(and in case you are wondering, THAT was a joke)



Shifty, I'm really struggling to understand what I've done wrong here, I've offered my apologies, I'm not offended by any gif you posted and I don't think I'm hilarious!

Please PM me so we can sort this out!

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RE: Remakes you want - 27/11/2012 11:53:07 PM   
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It's all good, were cool. You did nothing wrong except maybe not see when I was joking and (as I said before your recent post) you didn't offend me. Misunderstandings happen, so let's just forget it

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RE: Remakes you want - 28/11/2012 12:10:20 AM   
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It's all good, were cool. You did nothing wrong except maybe not see when I was joking and (as I said before your recent post) you didn't offend me. Misunderstandings happen, so let's just forget it


Cheers, mate. I hate falling out with anyone! Big hugs all round!



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RE: Remakes you want - 28/11/2012 12:14:50 AM   
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You were worrying me there. I was reading 'what have I done' and was thinking 'what have I done?'

I like to post gifs. You'll learn everyone's (poor) attempts at humour as you go

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RE: Remakes you want - 29/11/2012 2:51:59 PM   
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So does anyone have any idea's about a new pennywise?

As long as IT was remade as an 18 certificate a good or bad pennywise would make or break the film really.

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RE: Remakes you want - 29/11/2012 3:14:07 PM   
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WAIT.... what!

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BTTF:

Director - Seth MacFarlane

Marty McFly - Michael Cera
Doc Brown - Robin Williams
George McFly - Bill Hader
Marty's Mum - Alison Brie
Biff: Andy Samberg


The Matrix:

Director: Darren Aronofsky

Neo - Ryan Gosling
Trinity - Eliza Dushku
Morpheus - Michael Jai White
Agent Smith - Jeremy Renner
Oracle - Viola Davis
Cypher - Stephen Graham
The Architect - Edward James Olmos
Persephone - Christina Hendricks

Blade:

Director: Joe Carnahan

Blade - Michael Jai White
Whistler - Michael Hogan
Karen - Zoe Saldana
Deacon Frost - James McAvoy


Job done.



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RE: Remakes you want - 29/11/2012 11:13:25 PM   
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WAIT.... what!

quote:

ORIGINAL: vad3r

BTTF:

Director - Seth MacFarlane

Marty McFly - Michael Cera
Doc Brown - Robin Williams
George McFly - Bill Hader
Marty's Mum - Alison Brie
Biff: Andy Samberg


The Matrix:

Director: Darren Aronofsky

Neo - Ryan Gosling
Trinity - Eliza Dushku
Morpheus - Michael Jai White
Agent Smith - Jeremy Renner
Oracle - Viola Davis
Cypher - Stephen Graham
The Architect - Edward James Olmos
Persephone - Christina Hendricks

Blade:

Director: Joe Carnahan

Blade - Michael Jai White
Whistler - Michael Hogan
Karen - Zoe Saldana
Deacon Frost - James McAvoy


Job done.




Back To The Future must NEVER be remade.

Seriously, NEVER.

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RE: Remakes you want - 30/11/2012 12:16:11 AM   
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Back To The Future must NEVER be remade.

Seriously, NEVER.


Couldn't agree more!

What is it with people wanting for great films to be remade anyway?

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RE: Remakes you want - 30/11/2012 9:45:42 AM   
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Why are you all taking what vad3r has suggested seriously?

Now, back to Krull...

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RE: Remakes you want - 30/11/2012 9:43:23 PM   
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Why are you all taking what vad3r has suggested seriously?

Now, back to Krull...


Must we do the SPACED joke, or should it be taken as read...

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