cerebusboy
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ORIGINAL: Private Hudson Also as some have said here, surely if it is episode VII then it has to follow on from VI? I agree with Lucas that the Skywalker story, at least, ends with VI. Vader's redeemed, Luke's saved the galaxy - what else is there to say? I liked Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystall Skull (not as good as the Dark Knight Rises though, best film of the year by miles) , but a lot of people obviously felt (script issues aside) that OAP Indy was just a bad idea. And surely Han Solo is just as iconic as Indiana Jones, meaning nobody but Ford can play him? And so, too, with Leia and Luke? Hell, it would have been jarring if Anthony Daniels hadn't done the prequels threepio! Plus, I know it's a vast galaxy, but surely a lot of people (who didn't like the prequels) want Episode VII to be classic OT style adventure? Surely that precludes a lot of the EU style stuff? I mean, one of the biggest stories there was the Yuuzhan Vong alien invasion - an alien invasion story with ''Star Wars'' in the title isn't likely to have that OT feel. Boba Fett's cool, but a whole movie about bounty hunters, say, would feel like a tv show on the big screen, like with the crappy (e.g. Insurrection) trek movies. Disney do a lot with Tim Burton; maybe they'll go for someone like him to put a distinctive stamp on a classic 'good v evil' story. Chronologically speaking, though, if they have Jedis in the new film (and they should!) then arguably you're dealing with Skywalkers anyway - because Luke's the last one left, so he has to set up a new Jedi order, even if you don't want to use the exact EU stories. Timetravel might be the way forward - there's no point in having a story a hundred years after Episode VI, say, and then doing a rehash of the PT/OT (loads of jedi, sith rise, baddies control galaxy wipe out jedi, jedi rise and beat baddies/wipe out sith) but without the crucial father/son relationship that made those six movies such a brilliant story. Yeah a lot of good points in this I agree with. Yeah maybe Luke is dead but he is the Father of the new Jedi movement? I can't see any Star Wars film not having Jedi and The Force not being in it. Yes, I would leave Han Solo be. He is and always will be Harrison Ford, in the same way the adult Indiana Jones is too. I personally wouldn't let anyone so poor as Tim Burton near Star Wars. The guy has a very poor track record. Most of his films are utter pants! Look at the abortion of a movie that was his Planet of the Apes. Stick to Edward Scissorhands please! Not sure what they should do, but they must have some good ideas I am sure. Perhaps there will be a threat from another rival Jedi faction who might not be The Sith, but are also users of The Force? Or could we see in the future a new type of Empire or totalitarian regime who have defeated the Jedi? Yeah, Apes sucked, but Frankenweenie was great! I think the problem comes down to either having the best Star Wars elements or going in a new direction. If you go with the former, then you end up with retreads of the OT (a lot of the expanded universe introduced more Jedi who were just hiding when all the other jedi got wiped out, more totalitarian regimes etc) , if you go with the latter then you get further away from the 'iconic elements of Star Wars. I mean, I can just see the people who hated the prequels political stuff having the same reaction if Episode VII isn't a very OT-spirited sort of film. The OT characters were archetypes, but they were also definitive. The EU suffered because it had a lot of Han Solo style characters (Dash Render, Cade Skywalker) who are nothing like the real thing. And people go on about the size of the universe, but surely a new star wars film should have an epic film, where the whole fate of the galaxy is at stake? I'm sure Disney would love to create a new character who's as iconic as Darth Vader, but how likely is that? It's like trying to create a character to rival Batman and Spider-Man? If you had timetravel in the new movie then you could still have Vader, but have some new elements, creating a movie to please everyone. At the very least, there's no reason an episode vii shouldn't have all the aliens people like, such as Wookies, ewoks, kowakian moneky-lizards etc. I can understand people wanting something new, but when Episode VII roles around it will have been 32 years since the end of the Return of the Jedi and a full decade since the last star wars film! Marvel could do two spider-man reboots in ten years There's no need not to make use of iconic star wars designs so long after the last new film.
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