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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 18/11/2012 12:23:19 AM   
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I often read that American Graffiti is a good film, yet I thought it was kind of crap. Maybe it was more effective at the time, but I honestly don't know why it's held up as an example of Lucas producing great work.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 18/11/2012 10:34:37 AM   
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 Brad Bird has confirmed via Twitter that he won't be directing.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/11/18/brad-bird-wont-direct-star-wars-episode-vii

I think it was Helen on Friday's podcast that said the list was down to 2 names. I hope to christ one of those isn't Joe Johnstone.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 18/11/2012 2:56:10 PM   
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quote:

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I often read that American Graffiti is a good film, yet I thought it was kind of crap. Maybe it was more effective at the time, but I honestly don't know why it's held up as an example of Lucas producing great work.



george can't do nothing right.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 18/11/2012 3:14:55 PM   
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 would any top director really want to make a new Star Wars film?


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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 18/11/2012 6:36:56 PM   
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would any top director really want to make a new Star Wars film?



Perhaps not, considering the potential backlash.
George Lucas raped my childhood, while ......... held it down!

However Irvin Kirschner is rightly praised for the best movie of the saga. I think that a top director would only come on board if they were offered the right amount of creative freedom

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 19/11/2012 1:27:23 PM   
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quote:

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would any top director really want to make a new Star Wars film?



Perhaps not, considering the potential backlash.
George Lucas raped my childhood, while ......... held it down!

However Irvin Kirschner is rightly praised for the best movie of the saga. I think that a top director would only come on board if they were offered the right amount of creative freedom


I think the same could be said for the James Bond films. Mendes seemed to have had enough to play with with Skyfall so I'm hoping we'll see the same for Ep 7.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 19/11/2012 1:41:37 PM   
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a once master storyteller


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Well, A New Hope and American Grafitti are quite good.

Master storyteller is a somewhat hyperbolic term to use in relation to Lucas but I suppose that's subjective.


I haven't seen American Graffiti but I did enjoy THX1138. It's a bit soulless but it looks fantastic.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 19/11/2012 2:34:02 PM   
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In light of the recent Star Wars news have decided to start a blog. It's something I have been meaning to do for a long time and today I finally sat down and did it.

Have a look and please let me know what you think. I'm going to be adding entries when I can and will be charting the build-up from now until the release of the new film (and maybe beyond).

So check it out and spread the word.

Thanks. And enjoy.

http://starwarsherewegoagain.blogspot.ie/


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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 19/11/2012 2:40:51 PM   
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I did enjoy THX1138. It's a bit soulless but it looks fantastic.



A bit like the prequels, then?

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 19/11/2012 2:53:00 PM   
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 No, he said it looks fantastic.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 19/11/2012 2:55:34 PM   
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No, he said it looks fantastic.


I also said I enjoyed it.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 20/11/2012 1:53:34 AM   
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 Revenge of the Sith > Return of the Jedi.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 20/11/2012 3:34:12 AM   
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Revenge of the Sith > Return of the Jedi.


No.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 20/11/2012 6:07:06 AM   
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Revenge of the Sith > Return of the Jedi.


No.


But if we modify this equation...

(rotj-ewoks) > rots

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 20/11/2012 10:21:41 AM   
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mania's cast wishlist for ep VII.

dame helen would be on my list but as a jedi or sith?

< Message edited by spark1 -- 20/11/2012 10:22:09 AM >

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 20/11/2012 11:42:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Overmind


quote:

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ORIGINAL: vad3r

Revenge of the Sith > Return of the Jedi.


No.


But if we modify this equation...

(rotj-ewoks) > rots


Let's modify again

(rotj+ewoks+an inexplicable appearance by Jar Jar Binks) still> rots.



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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 20/11/2012 12:58:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: homersimpson_esq


quote:

ORIGINAL: Overmind


quote:

ORIGINAL: Deviation


quote:

ORIGINAL: vad3r

Revenge of the Sith > Return of the Jedi.


No.


But if we modify this equation...

(rotj-ewoks) > rots


Let's modify again

(rotj+ewoks+an inexplicable appearance by Jar Jar Binks) still> rots.




Although I agree with the equation, I thought we weren't supposed to be engaging with original trilogy vs prequel trilogy on here.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 20/11/2012 1:00:25 PM   
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 You are quite correct Matt.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 20/11/2012 1:58:19 PM   
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 Ah, well, yes, um, y'see, well...OMG WHAT THE HELL IS THAT!

*runs*

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 20/11/2012 4:23:41 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: superdan

I often read that American Graffiti is a good film, yet I thought it was kind of crap. Maybe it was more effective at the time, but I honestly don't know why it's held up as an example of Lucas producing great work.



george can't do nothing right.


Oh come on, American Graffiti is a good movie. I don't see why Lucas gets all this negative criticism with people saying he can't direct or write.

Excuse me, but he made Star Wars. Possibly the most influential movie ever and one of the all time greats. That proves to me that he can write and he can direct.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 20/11/2012 4:29:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: superdan

I often read that American Graffiti is a good film, yet I thought it was kind of crap. Maybe it was more effective at the time, but I honestly don't know why it's held up as an example of Lucas producing great work.



george can't do nothing right.


Oh come on, American Graffiti is a good movie. I don't see why Lucas gets all this negative criticism with people saying he can't direct or write.

Excuse me, but he made Star Wars. Possibly the most influential movie ever and one of the all time greats. That proves to me that he can write and he can direct.


Fluke. All the overwhelming evidence since confirms it.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 20/11/2012 4:36:20 PM   
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Oh come on, American Graffiti is a good movie. I don't see why Lucas gets all this negative criticism with people saying he can't direct or write.

Excuse me, but he made Star Wars. Possibly the most influential movie ever and one of the all time greats. That proves to me that he can write and he can direct.



It's because film is a subjective medium. Not that hard to figure out, really. Or maybe you're right and everyone else doesn't know a damn thing about Star Wars.

OK, yeah, New Hope is a high end 3/5 film and American Grafitti is cute. But for me, Empire and Jedi are good films because back then Lucas had the good idea of letting other people write and direct them.

The prequels are horrible because Lucas somehow forgot what made the other films work, and delivered an overabundance of obvious CG imagery, poor dialogue and bad acting from otherwise good actors.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 20/11/2012 10:14:02 PM   
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mania's cast wishlist for ep VII.

dame helen would be on my list but as a jedi or sith?


Mon Mothma?



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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 20/11/2012 11:17:35 PM   
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Star Wars. Possibly the most influential movie ever


A film which in and of itself takes its story from other films, like The Hidden Fortress, cannot be considered the most influential. Perhaps in terms of kids who saw it and thought, HOLY FLURKING SNIT I WANT TO DO THAT FOR A LIVING and are now famous directors, but that's it.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 21/11/2012 12:34:35 AM   
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Star Wars. Possibly the most influential movie ever


A film which in and of itself takes its story from other films, like The Hidden Fortress, cannot be considered the most influential. Perhaps in terms of kids who saw it and thought, HOLY FLURKING SNIT I WANT TO DO THAT FOR A LIVING and are now famous directors, but that's it.


If more people saw it (and were influenced by it) than The Hidden Fortress, then of course it can.


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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 21/11/2012 1:03:13 AM   
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 So now that J.J. Abrams and Brad Bird have ruled themselves out, who's going to step up and resurrect the dark lord?

The correct answer is Matt Reeves. You can bet your children on it.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 21/11/2012 1:49:35 AM   
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Star Wars. Possibly the most influential movie ever


A film which in and of itself takes its story from other films, like The Hidden Fortress, cannot be considered the most influential. Perhaps in terms of kids who saw it and thought, HOLY FLURKING SNIT I WANT TO DO THAT FOR A LIVING and are now famous directors, but that's it.


That's a little belittling to be honest. Star Wars was and is still hugely influential in cinematic history - I don't think it's THE most influential, but it's up there.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 21/11/2012 2:22:59 AM   
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That's a little belittling to be honest. Star Wars was and is still hugely influential in cinematic history - I don't think it's THE most influential, but it's up there.


Indeed, judging from interviews practically every special effects person who joined the industry in the last 30 years will have done so because of Star Wars. As a blockbuster, it unquestionably sets the benchmark for success and popular impact - every movie studio wants their franchise to be "the next Star Wars".


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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 21/11/2012 6:10:23 AM   
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Star Wars. Possibly the most influential movie ever


A film which in and of itself takes its story from other films, like The Hidden Fortress, cannot be considered the most influential. Perhaps in terms of kids who saw it and thought, HOLY FLURKING SNIT I WANT TO DO THAT FOR A LIVING and are now famous directors, but that's it.


That's a little belittling to be honest. Star Wars was and is still hugely influential in cinematic history - I don't think it's THE most influential, but it's up there.


I think we're on the same page... I didn't say it wasn't influential at all.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 21/11/2012 7:19:00 AM   
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So now that J.J. Abrams and Brad Bird have ruled themselves out, who's going to step up and resurrect the dark lord?

The correct answer is Matt Reeves. You can bet your children on it.


Fuck off.

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