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I think when you start using it excessively is where you have problems, I hate it when a set that could quite easily be made is digitally rendered later it just looks so fake (even the Jedi council chambers were added in digitally in AOTC and ROTS) you have got to give the actors something. I also think that way with the Clone Troopers, why did they need to be digital for close ups, interacting with the the cast and small group shots ? Again it just looks so fake and must be an absolute nightmare for the actors surely men in suits would suffice.
There is some stellar effects work in the prequels but I agree that even now some of it is starting to date quite badly. They just need to find the right balance and they will be onto a winner I'm sure.
Yeah, exactly. The problem was that GL was just dumping actors onto a green screen sound stage and everything, even the characters they were interacting with were all added in later.
Thats the way films of this nature are made these days.It all looked fine to me.Greenscreen is used a lot in tv shows as well to portray a character in a different country for exampe.Just because you know how the technique is done doesnt make it bad or fake.Its just a way of telling a story and you suspend disbelief.
Look at it this way,in the golden age of movies from the 40s onwards,they used a lot of rear projection to portray people driving cars in foreign locations.When they showed Bond in the car chase in Dr.No in 1962, Connery is clearly being filmed in front of a projection screen.It didnt fool anyone back then nor is it supposed to.You just suspend your disbelief.
The SW films to come WILL be made with a lot of green/bluescreen.Its a fact because its the most efficent way to make these kinds of movies to portray fantasy worlds that dont actually exist.
Yes but back in Dr. No and the other early Bonds, the car Bond was sat in was real, the images being projected behind him were real and the girl sat next to him was real. I would have thought actually back then that people were fooled by the effects, the same way people were amazed by films like Jason and the Argonaughts.
An effect is bad if it looks fake not because you know how it's done, but an even worse effect is sos bad that you can see how its done and galres out obviously. e.g. So many of the scenes in the second two prequels have the actors playing Jedi waving around their lightsabers willy nilly and blaster bolts are then added in afterwards to look like theyre deflecting but you can tell there's no reasoning behind where they're waving them. Or when Yoda, Mace Windu and Obi-Wan are walking through the Jedi Temple. It looks diabolically bad. Like they've just been dropped into a video game. There's even a clip on one of the making of documenatries where someone queries whether the eyeline is right and GL says "I don't care about the stinky eyeline."
I've no objection to greenscreen and CG being used. It would be impossible to make a Star Wars film these days without it. But they need to show a little restraint, think about what they're doing and avoid the reckless "fix it" in post attitude of the prequels. I think that Cg is actually best used when its putting to REAL aspects together. Like the building sinking in Casino Royale. Modelwork composited on to an actual street in Venice. And it looks fantastic!
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