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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 1:08:42 PM   
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This thread is like a fanboypocalypse.



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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 2:20:20 PM   
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So, the Episode 7 announcement is a little over a week old and we have a 40+ page thread of madness already? Empire Forums deliver again. Love it.

Anyway, I think we'll have a director named soon. I suspect the pieces are alreay in place and probably have been for some time. I expect an announcement becore the years end. A name I'd throw into the mix is...... Andrew Stanton. I know John Carter is somewhat divisive on these boards and it is considered a box office flop, however, it was met with a decent critical reception and Finding Nemo is sheer quality. John Carter had an old school scope and was really quite close in to e to the Star Wars movies. If Stanton had a shot at a Star Wars flick, I wouldnt be dissapointed in that choice. Some of the other names doig the rounds (Favreau, Whedon, Fincher etc) just dont sound like the right fit. Brad Bird and Andrew Stanton would be my choices. Random outsider choice...... John Lasseter.

Story-wise? No EU adaptations please. No time travel, no Vader resurrection (what he fuck are you people smoking to think this is wise?!) and no recasting of existing OT roles. I'd be happy with a Luke as a father and a New Jedi Order in a Star Wars world in peace. Not sure what threat and three film arc could be introduced that wouldnt seem like a rehash (Sith Lords meeting in secret to plan a return? Bounty Hunters planning a coup on behalf of an unseen enemy that could be Sith/Empire related?). Still, i hope it all works out for a fun family adventure flick. A lot of the fan boy community seem to forget that these movies need to appeal to the family. We may not like dumb as f m haracters like Jar Jar etc, but the kiddies love em. They have to appeal to the kids too.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 2:35:15 PM   
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Would be better if it was Wang Chung.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 3:56:40 PM   
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I'm watching Return of the Jedi at the moment and I can't help but feel that George Lucas missed a trick by not casting Run DMC in it. They could have been decent backup for Boba Fett. Who knows, with their help he might have avoided a punk's death.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 4:00:26 PM   
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I'm watching Return of the Jedi at the moment and I can't help but feel that George Lucas missed a trick by not casting Run DMC in it. They could have been decent backup for Boba Fett. Who knows, with their help he might have avoided a punk's death.


Would have been a bit too underground in 83. The Sugarhill Gang would be a better bet.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 4:18:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Harry Tuttle

I'm watching Return of the Jedi at the moment and I can't help but feel that George Lucas missed a trick by not casting Run DMC in it. They could have been decent backup for Boba Fett. Who knows, with their help he might have avoided a punk's death.


Would have been a bit too underground in 83. The Sugarhill Gang would be a better bet.


It's a shame Public Enemy weren't mainstream enough at the time. I feel the series is really missing something without Flava Flav shouting "YEAH BOI!" every time an Ewok pegs it.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 4:24:19 PM   
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It definitely would have benefited from more Debbie Harry in Jabbas Palace.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 4:27:19 PM   
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utsider choice...... John Lasseter.

Story-wise? No EU adaptations please. No time travel, no Vader resurrection (what he fuck are you people smoking to think this is wise?!)


What do you mean "you people"? It's only Vad3r who thinks that and, in his defence, it's based on what he thinks Disney will do, not what they should.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 4:28:42 PM   
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Would be better if it was Wang Chung.


A member of the Wu-Tang was in the Wire, generally regarded as pretty decent. RZA, aside from being one of the coolest men alive, has worked with Tarantino and just directed his first film. etc

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 4:30:12 PM   
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I'm watching Return of the Jedi at the moment and I can't help but feel that George Lucas missed a trick by not casting Run DMC in it. They could have been decent backup for Boba Fett. Who knows, with their help he might have avoided a punk's death.


Me too!
Be honest, wouldn't an intergalactic rap have been better than Jedi Rocks? Not that I'm having a go at the changes made to the original movies, which mostly improved them.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 4:31:45 PM   
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Prince would have made a pretty good head Ewok I reckon and The Bangles could have provided the entertainment on Jabba's ship during the Sarlacc section.

I can't believe they didn't consider these options.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 4:31:56 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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I'm watching Return of the Jedi at the moment and I can't help but feel that George Lucas missed a trick by not casting Run DMC in it. They could have been decent backup for Boba Fett. Who knows, with their help he might have avoided a punk's death.


Would have been a bit too underground in 83. The Sugarhill Gang would be a better bet.


Jabba's Delight! That would have been cool.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 4:33:07 PM   
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Prince would have made a pretty good head Ewok I reckon and The Bangles could have provided the entertainment on Jabba's ship during the Sarlacc section.

I can't believe they didn't consider these options.


Come on, they put Michael Jackson in one of those Men in Black movies, and it didn't exactly ruin it.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 4:34:32 PM   
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quote:

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Would be better if it was Wang Chung.


A member of the Wu-Tang was in the Wire, generally regarded as pretty decent. RZA, aside from being one of the coolest men alive, has worked with Tarantino and just directed his first film. etc


Thanks Wikipedia!

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 4:35:42 PM   
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So, the Episode 7 announcement is a little over a week old and we have a 40+ page thread of madness already? Empire Forums deliver again. Love it.



Come on, is forty pages really that much? I thought Dark Knight Rises had a lot with 80 or so, but some of the regulars told me that many of the many off topic threads get hundreds and hundreds of pages! I don't really have time to post on the off topic threads, but I'm sure they're great, but surely you'd expect film threads to get as many if not more hits!

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 4:40:34 PM   
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Would be better if it was Wang Chung.


A member of the Wu-Tang was in the Wire, generally regarded as pretty decent. RZA, aside from being one of the coolest men alive, has worked with Tarantino and just directed his first film. etc


Thanks Wikipedia!


lol. General knowledge! Seriously, there was a great article on Comics Alliance on the hip-hop/comics connection, and I can vaguely recall one on the hip-hop/Star Wars connections. Those three things are the holy trinity of cool shit, so it's only natural to think of fruitfully crossing them over.

If anyone can provide suggestions for baddies/bounty hunters as eye-catching as the Wu-Tang Clan I'd love to hear them!

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 4:43:21 PM   
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Broadening this out, wouldn't people agree that 80s Harrison Ford was possibly the coolest man around? I'd argue that, although the likes of Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Gosling and Cristiano Ronaldo are charismatic, hip-hop is the best place to look for ultimate cool. Harrison Ford was a carpenter like Jesus remember, not the flavour-of-the-month hunk from central casting!

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 5:53:03 PM   
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hip-hop is the best place to look for ultimate cool.



No. People who try too hard to be cool are not cool. Cool people are effortlessly cool, when they're not trying to be cool. Hip-hop is mostly full of arrogant, self-important cunts. That is not cool. I do like LL Cool J. Ironically he has the word "cool" in his name. But he's also funny.

Hey, you kids. You kids be cool.


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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 5:57:36 PM   
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hip-hop is the best place to look for ultimate cool.



No. People who try too hard to be cool are not cool. Cool people are effortlessly cool, when they're not trying to be cool. Hip-hop is mostly full of arrogant, self-important cunts. That is not cool.



Rubbish. Tell me who you regard as cool. There's invariably an element of arrogance in cool; if a guy is the coolest man in the room then it's reasonable to assume that he knows it. Hip-hop is mostly full of intelligent people doing interesting things with language. If verbal dexterity and is a virtue the you'll find more of it in hip-hop than most other places.
Kanye West is arrogant because he should be. As with Prince, it would be a lot worse if his talent was coupled with a ''just regular folks'' essential dishonesty.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 6:02:59 PM   
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Sorry, why is hiphop and rap and other associated media being discussed in A THREAD ABOUT A FORTHCOMING STAR WARS MOVIE?

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 6:05:15 PM   
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Is that directed at me or everyone else also doing so? To err on the safe side, I'll add it the list of topics that me (and only me!) are not allowed to discuss on this thread, posting habits others can indulge in but I can't. Mea culpa. Sorry for any hassle.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 6:08:35 PM   
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quote:

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hip-hop is the best place to look for ultimate cool.



No. People who try too hard to be cool are not cool. Cool people are effortlessly cool, when they're not trying to be cool. Hip-hop is mostly full of arrogant, self-important cunts. That is not cool.



Rubbish. Tell me who you regard as cool. There's invariably an element of arrogance in cool; if a guy is the coolest man in the room then it's reasonable to assume that he knows it. Hip-hop is mostly full of intelligent people doing interesting things with language. If verbal dexterity and is a virtue the you'll find more of it in hip-hop than most other places.
Kanye West is arrogant because he should be. As with Prince, it would be a lot worse if his talent was coupled with a ''just regular folks'' essential dishonesty.



No. Hip-hop is full of cunts. Mostly. There is some talent in there, I'm sure. Kanye West is a cunt. He may have talent, but that does not excuse his cuntishness. But he is not cool. Yeah, Prince is cool, but everything about him is (or was) so effortless. I'm not talking about exhibitionism. One can be massively talented without being an arrogant cunt. With a room full of people, it is everyone else who will define who the coolest man in that room is, not the man himself. Or woman.

But no, hip-hop, like film-forums, are full of cunts.

But why are we talking about hip-hop anyway? Have I missed something?

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 6:13:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cerebusboy


quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: cerebusboy

hip-hop is the best place to look for ultimate cool.



No. People who try too hard to be cool are not cool. Cool people are effortlessly cool, when they're not trying to be cool. Hip-hop is mostly full of arrogant, self-important cunts. That is not cool.



Rubbish. Tell me who you regard as cool. There's invariably an element of arrogance in cool; if a guy is the coolest man in the room then it's reasonable to assume that he knows it. Hip-hop is mostly full of intelligent people doing interesting things with language. If verbal dexterity and is a virtue the you'll find more of it in hip-hop than most other places.
Kanye West is arrogant because he should be. As with Prince, it would be a lot worse if his talent was coupled with a ''just regular folks'' essential dishonesty.



No. Hip-hop is full of cunts. Mostly. There is some talent in there, I'm sure. Kanye West is a cunt. He may have talent, but that does not excuse his cuntishness. But he is not cool. Yeah, Prince is cool, but everything about him is (or was) so effortless. I'm not talking about exhibitionism. One can be massively talented without being an arrogant cunt. With a room full of people, it is everyone else who will define who the coolest man in that room is, not the man himself. Or woman.

But no, hip-hop, like film-forums, are full of cunts.

But why are we talking about hip-hop anyway? Have I missed something?



I said that Harrison Ford was possibly the coolest man alive in the 80s and it would make sense to cast his closest contemporary equivalent (and i do not think Ryan Gosling or whoever comes close. We need to cast the net wider, into other media or perhaps even sport). Perhaps it would be helpful if you could define your ''cunt'' and ''cool'' criteria so we can progress the discussion and identify an ideal candidate for Episode VII. It seems like we agree that a degree of effortlessness is cool? -------- is like Prince in that aspect. Assuming that Steve McQueeen, say, is cool, and Piers Morgan is a cunt, what would you say are the defining feature of coolness and cuntitude and, utilising the former, who would you say is the coolest man alive who should logically be cast in Episode VII? A few years ago it might have been Barack Obama, but he's taken some hits, and he's probably too busy to do Episode VII anyway.


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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 6:18:03 PM   
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It would probably not be a good idea if I start defining my "cunt criteria".

As for cool I like Chris De-Burgh.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 6:22:21 PM   
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Gary Lineker for new Yoda?

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 6:22:31 PM   
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It would probably not be a good idea if I start defining my "cunt criteria".

As for cool I like Chris De-Burgh.


lol. But it's a serious point. The easy option would be just to cast Ryan Gosling or Justin Bieber or whoever, but the new films aren't out until 2015. So you need someone with genuine serious enduring cool, not just a flash in a pan. Hell, Ryan Gosling could be less cool than Bono in 2015. I'm actually surprised nobody's mentioned James Franco for Star Wars. He's cool, and a great established actor, and with a decent pedigree, worked in genre movies, and not too old. He could probably even pull off a Jedi-style beard

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 6:25:01 PM   
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Gary Lineker for new Yoda?


lol. But Samuel L Jackson was cool in 1998-----------------------REDACTED------- and also 2005
That's the kind of balance you need to strike - very cool, but enduring. Someone like Muhammad Ali, but an actor, and still alive. Yoda, like all the muppets, is always cool!

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 6:29:11 PM   
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Michael Jordan, for example, has been cool for over 25 years! Jordans are still da bomb. Plus he's got acting experience (that Space Jam movie he did with Bugs Bunny, which probably involved lots of Star Wars style Green Screen)

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 6:32:13 PM   
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A few years ago it might have been Barack Obama, but he's taken some hits, and he's probably too busy to do Episode VII anyway.



Admiral Barackbar?

I always wanted to see the Admiral partying at the end of ROTJ like everyone else.

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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 10/11/2012 6:34:52 PM   
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A few years ago it might have been Barack Obama, but he's taken some hits, and he's probably too busy to do Episode VII anyway.



Admiral Barackbar?

I always wanted to see the Admiral partying at the end of ROTJ like everyone else.


Hey, I'm sure he had a party on the ship! He probably gave his fellow Mon Calamarians some shore leave on Endor.

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