cerebusboy
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hip-hop is the best place to look for ultimate cool.
No. People who try too hard to be cool are not cool. Cool people are effortlessly cool, when they're not trying to be cool. Hip-hop is mostly full of arrogant, self-important cunts. That is not cool.
Rubbish. Tell me who you regard as cool. There's invariably an element of arrogance in cool; if a guy is the coolest man in the room then it's reasonable to assume that he knows it. Hip-hop is mostly full of intelligent people doing interesting things with language. If verbal dexterity and is a virtue the you'll find more of it in hip-hop than most other places.
Kanye West is arrogant because he should be. As with Prince, it would be a lot worse if his talent was coupled with a ''just regular folks'' essential dishonesty.
No. Hip-hop is full of cunts. Mostly. There is some talent in there, I'm sure. Kanye West is a cunt. He may have talent, but that does not excuse his cuntishness. But he is not cool. Yeah, Prince is cool, but everything about him is (or was) so effortless. I'm not talking about exhibitionism. One can be massively talented without being an arrogant cunt. With a room full of people, it is everyone else who will define who the coolest man in that room is, not the man himself. Or woman.
But no, hip-hop, like film-forums, are full of cunts.
But why are we talking about hip-hop anyway? Have I missed something?
I said that Harrison Ford was possibly the coolest man alive in the 80s and it would make sense to cast his closest contemporary equivalent (and i do not think Ryan Gosling or whoever comes close. We need to cast the net wider, into other media or perhaps even sport). Perhaps it would be helpful if you could define your ''cunt'' and ''cool'' criteria so we can progress the discussion and identify an ideal candidate for Episode VII. It seems like we agree that a degree of effortlessness is cool? -------- is like Prince in that aspect. Assuming that Steve McQueeen, say, is cool, and Piers Morgan is a cunt, what would you say are the defining feature of coolness and cuntitude and, utilising the former, who would you say is the coolest man alive who should logically be cast in Episode VII? A few years ago it might have been Barack Obama, but he's taken some hits, and he's probably too busy to do Episode VII anyway.
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RE: Star Wars: Episode 7 - 
It's only Vad3r who thinks that and, in his defence, it's based on what he thinks Disney will do, not what they should.
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