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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/11/2012 5:46:18 AM   
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As far as Peter Lorre is concerned, I can't think of any performance of his that I've seen and haven't liked.
Rawls, have you seen any of the Mr Moto series that he did back in the thirties? Not great films by any means, but considerably entertaining. Great fun - I'd put them on a par with the Charlie Chan series.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/11/2012 7:15:47 PM   
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I really like the Motos. I'm not as obsessed with them as I am the Fox Chans, but the second one is pretty much a model B movie and Lorre is always excellent in the lead (milk-drinking and jujitsu - what a great combo).

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/11/2012 7:19:45 PM   
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More mad love for Mad Love. Also a very big Charlie Chan fan, but actually prefer the Mr Moto series, there's a bit more of an edge around them imo.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/11/2012 7:59:39 PM   
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More mad love for Mad Love. Also a very big Charlie Chan fan, but actually prefer the Mr Moto series, there's a bit more of an edge around them imo.

Man who prefers Moto to Chan is like smelly bottom - do not want him at my dinner table.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/11/2012 8:04:55 PM   
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Some other Lorre stuf I love: singing and dancing in Silk Stockings, playing a sad clown in The Big Circus, confounding expectations in Black Angel, confirming them in Quicksand and treading the line between menace and spoofery quite exquisitely in My Favourite Brunette. What a dude he was.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/11/2012 10:37:40 PM   
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And let's not forget the delightful Beat The Devil.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/11/2012 10:52:43 PM   
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I've only ever seen one or two Motos, I know some are up on Internet Archive, so I'll give them a try. Anyone ever hear Lorre doing Back for Christmas for the Suspense radio series? One of my favourite episodes of the show, I still haven't got round to his Suspense version of Nobody Loves Me, but I hear it's rated highly.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 7/11/2012 4:10:20 PM   
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95. The Talk of the Town



Director: George Stevens
1942

Cary Grant plays a mill worker and political activist, Leopold Dilg. He is framed for arson and causing the death of a workmate in a mill fire. Dilg escapes from police custody and hides out in the house of friend Nora (Jean Arthur). There's a complication, Nora has rented out the house to famous law professor Michael Lightcap (Ronald Colman) who is seeking peace to write a book. When Lightcap finds Dilg, Nora claims he's the gardener. Lightcap and Dilg become friends over discussions about the law. But can Dilg keep his identity a secret from the by-the-book professor?

Considering the high regard it was held in at the time of its release (A box-office hit that earned 7 Oscar nominations, including best picture) it's surprising how overlooked the film appears to be today. Far more serious in intent than the majority of screwball comedies, the film can come off as a little heavy-handed when it moves from comedy to its political elements. But for the most part it's intelligent rather than didactic, managing to combine superbly funny scenes with debates between Grant and Colman about the fairness of the law. Lightcap sees the law as a cold, clinical thing, always fair and honest. Dilg can see the potential for human bias within the law. The performances are first class, with Grant clearly relishing the chance to play something a little different than he was used to. Jean Arthur is delightful and Ronald Colman gives one of his finest turns as the uptight professor. Edgar Buchanan is a little under-used in his role as Dilg's attorney, but he makes the most of his scenes. The romantic love-triangle is easy to foresee - both men fall in love with Jean Arthur, she's uncertain who she wants. But it's deftly handled by the cast and it doesn't overwhelm the more serious scenes. Grant and Colman in particular play off each off wonderfully, it's a shame they didn't work together more often. Although you're never really in doubt as to how the film will end (Does anyone really believe Cary Grant would ever be executed for murder in a film??) the joy is in the journey of the movie, the dazzling performances, the writing and the meticulous directing by George Stevens.


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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 8/11/2012 12:27:32 AM   
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Can't say any more other than I agree with you in all that you say. It's long been a favourite of mine.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 4/12/2012 1:08:49 PM   
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94. Lifeboat



Director: Alfred Hitchcock
1944

It's not unusual for films from the early 40s to be wartime propaganda. Even Sherlock Holmes was dragged in to the 40s to fight against Nazi plots. But just because something is propaganda, it doesn't mean that it can't also be a great film. A steamer is sunk by a German U-boat, the survivors find themselves floating in a lifeboat in the ocean. The survivors are deliberately pitched as a mixture of all levels of society, from a wealthy columnist to a socialist sailor. They even have a Nazi sailor on board, and much of the debate is if the seemingly friendly guy can be trusted. If the film seems a bit contrived, that's often the nature of propaganda, but while it's fair to say that it is propaganda, there's also a deeper reading of it. Hitchcock used this film not just to further the allied war effort, but to also examine the nature of the mob, and to indulge in a technical exercise where he was restricted to one location.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 4/12/2012 1:28:43 PM   
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Fantastic film.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 4/12/2012 1:57:04 PM   
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Yep, superb film.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 4/12/2012 3:32:52 PM   
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Agree with the above.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 4/12/2012 3:40:14 PM   
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Out of curiosity, how annoyed would you all be if I abandoned thread and instead just finished it up as part of expanding my top 600 into 1200?

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 4/12/2012 3:47:58 PM   
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You know how annoyed The Woman In Black makes you?? Think that but worse.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 4/12/2012 3:49:03 PM   
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Really? Why that annoyed?

Speaking of WIB, I'm seeing it in the theatre again in Feb'.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 4/12/2012 3:51:50 PM   
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Cos chances are I'll have seen a greater percentage of this list than your top 1200, which we all know will contain about 700 films that actually can't be found anywhere on the planet.

Any names in the production?


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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 4/12/2012 4:07:13 PM   
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Cos chances are I'll have seen a greater percentage of this list than your top 1200, which we all know will contain about 700 films that actually can't be found anywhere on the planet.



But all of the films from this would be in it...

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Any names in the production?


I haven't actually seen the cast list. Generally when it tours it doesn't have big names though. At least it hasn't the last few times I've seen it.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 4/12/2012 5:49:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rawlinson


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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

Cos chances are I'll have seen a greater percentage of this list than your top 1200, which we all know will contain about 700 films that actually can't be found anywhere on the planet.



But all of the films from this would be in it...



Interspersed with 700 films that I know I'd want to try and watch. At least with this list there'd be no more than 93.

But seriously, I don't mind either way. It's your list!


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I haven't actually seen the cast list. Generally when it tours it doesn't have big names though. At least it hasn't the last few times I've seen it.


Are there any big difference between the shows?


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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 5/12/2012 4:23:34 AM   
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Interspersed with 700 films that I know I'd want to try and watch. At least with this list there'd be no more than 93.



Everything is available if you know where to look though.

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Are there any big difference between the shows?


The show itself is basically the same, it's just interesting smaller details that change, but that'll always be down to how the director and actors handle certain moments. The woman walks through the audience every time I've seen it, and every time she's stopped right by me. I'm sure I'm targeted.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/12/2012 3:50:22 PM   
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93. Sullivan's Travels



Director: Preston Sturges
1941

Often regarded as Sturges' greatest film, for me it falls a few places down the list. But that says more about the exceptionally high quality of his work than it does anything negative about Sullivan's Travels. The Sullivan of the title is a film director (Joel McCrea), he's famous for making comedies, but he feels he needs to tackle tragedy to really become a respected director. He decides to take a break from Hollywood and hit the road as a hobo, feeling this the only way he can get the experience necessary to become a great artist. Along the way he meets a girl (Veronica Lake) that he falls for, but fate steps in and he nearly loses everything. Some have read it as Hollywood congratulating itself for making commercial films, but I think that's just cynicism. If there is a valid criticism of the film, I think it's that at times it's a bit hypocritical. It chastises Sullivan for wanting to make awards bait films about moral lessons, while indulging in its own moral lesson. Ultimately that's a minor concern, secondary to the wonderful performances and that always sparkling Sturges dialogue.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/12/2012 3:52:09 PM   
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One of these days I'll see a Sturges film.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/12/2012 3:53:39 PM   
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Why not today?

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/12/2012 4:01:16 PM   
Gimli The Dwarf


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There isn't a Sturges film in the HOF, that's why

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Yeah, Mr. White! Yeah, science!

Much more better!

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/12/2012 4:02:14 PM   
rawlinson

 

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How many do you have left to watch?

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/12/2012 4:10:37 PM   
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9. Galaxy Quest at the minute and when the postman turns up I'll have copies of all the others.


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Fellow scientists, poindexters, geeks.

Yeah, Mr. White! Yeah, science!

Much more better!

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/12/2012 4:13:45 PM   
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9. Galaxy Quest at the minute and when the postman turns up I'll have copies of all the others.



There's 12 days left of the HoF, you can spare a day for Sturges.

On the first day of HoFmas the postman brought to me a shit film called Galaxy...

Quest.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/12/2012 4:40:51 PM   
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I don't think I even own any of his films.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/12/2012 4:41:59 PM   
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You own something of everything.

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RE: 1940s Top 100 - 6/12/2012 4:45:34 PM   
Gimli The Dwarf


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Not this time.

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So, sir, we let him have it right up! And I have to report, sir, he did not like it, sir.

Fellow scientists, poindexters, geeks.

Yeah, Mr. White! Yeah, science!

Much more better!

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