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RE: Skyfall - 6/11/2012 11:08:57 PM   
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Saw this and it's absolutely terrific entertainment. There's a sense of humor that was missing from the previous two films, it has smarts, the action scenes are superbly executed and Craig looks like he's really enjoying the role now. Javier Bardem is an absolute hoot at Silva.

I do have some reservations, though. Naomi Harris is likable and sexy but really isn't given much to do, the Severine (sp?) plot strand takes away from the thrust of the narrative and Craig's remark at Severine's shooting seemed callous and out-of-place with this Bond's more sympathetic nature.

Still, those things didn't make the film any less enjoyable, and for those who have been bitching and whining about the fucking gun barrel: moving it towards the end of the film made sense in terms of the narrative, Bond's character development and actually served as an unexpected "Fuck yeah!" moment.

Great stuff. Let's just hope that Eon doesn't take another step back with something as awful as Quantum of Solace.

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RE: Skyfall - 6/11/2012 11:27:31 PM   
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Still, those things didn't make the film any less enjoyable, and for those who have been bitching and whining about the fucking gun barrel: moving it towards the end of the film made sense in terms of the narrative, Bond's character development and actually served as an unexpected "Fuck yeah!" moment.



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RE: Skyfall - 6/11/2012 11:29:55 PM   
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James Bond is the one who works for IMF, right?

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RE: Skyfall - 6/11/2012 11:32:48 PM   
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James Bond is the one who works for IMF, right?


No, *sigh* he's the one who lost his memory

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RE: Skyfall - 7/11/2012 12:23:42 AM   
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the Severine (sp?) plot strand takes away from the thrust of the narrative and Craig's remark at Severine's shooting seemed callous and out-of-place with this Bond's more sympathetic nature.



I shall refer you to my post of last week on this self-same matter, invisibly: I thought so too at the time, but after the film I came to the conclusion that Bond must be putting on a callous front as the villain obviously wants him to feel anguish at the woman's death. I'd have like it to be partly addressed in their final confrontation at the end, I think.


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RE: Great Bond - 7/11/2012 10:27:00 AM   
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what is 'bondian'?-

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RE: Great Bond - 7/11/2012 11:21:36 AM   
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Have to say, I stayed away from the Adele song, only ever hearing the chorus and I wasn't too impressed with it at first.
Having heard,seen it in the opening credits I think its superb, it fits really well.


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RE: Poor Plot - 7/11/2012 2:33:32 PM   
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"What was the villains grudge against Judy Dench?"

His "Mommy" treated him badly. Would have thought that such a resentment of your boss, her/his decisions and faults could lead to a psychopath? ;-)

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RE: Poor Plot - 7/11/2012 2:40:37 PM   
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Very disappointing.There were too many unanswered questions in the plot.How did Bond survive the shooting and apparent drowning?
What was the villains grudge against Judy Dench? How did they blow-up the MI6 HQ? By computer hacking?? How did the villain escape captivity ? Why did Bond accept a lift on the villain's boat ? Surely it would have made more sense to follow it secretly to the island? Also near the end after Bond escapes from the frozen lake he appears to be completely dry a few mins later!



Errrr she said in the film that he became a liability so she gave him up to the Chinese were he swallowed his Suicide pill that burned his insides out......


I'd be a bit miffed to........


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RE: Poor Plot - 7/11/2012 2:50:53 PM   
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What was the grudge?

M gave him up to the other side in return for other prisoners. He was apparently a good loyal agent who was tortured and remained loyal and rather than give up info and betray M, he decided to kill himself using the cyanide capsule that was not powerful to kill him and instead destroyed the inside of his mouth (see the dental plate he takes out, it;s filling up some of the space where the roof of his mouth should be). During this time he discovered the person for whom he was suffering the torture for did not show the same loyalty to him, and having passed the point of trying to kill himself to end his suffering (which increased his suffering because of the burning effect of the poison on his mouth, and throat) his agonies combined with his anger at the woman he stayed loyalty to, who threw him to the wolves meant he had only one thought in his head, revenge. Using everything he had learned as an agent against those who had trained him, whose psychology and methods he knew and therefore could make his actions have the effect he wanted, of making MI6 scared, and batten down the hatches. But if you know where those hatches are, and how they work, you can simply get through them like they aren't even there. . Basically, M drove him insane and he wanted her to pay. Is the film really not clear enough on that?

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RE: Poor Plot - 7/11/2012 2:55:35 PM   
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clear enough but not effective enough, and no way well stressed

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RE: Poor Plot - 7/11/2012 3:03:27 PM   
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It was stressed pretty damn well, actually.

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RE: Poor Plot - 7/11/2012 3:06:15 PM   
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Very disappointing.There were too many unanswered questions in the plot.How did Bond survive the shooting and apparent drowning? What was the villains grudge against Judy Dench? How did they blow-up the MI6 HQ? By computer hacking?? How did the villain escape captivity ? Why did Bond accept a lift on the villain's boat ? Surely it would have made more sense to follow it secretly to the island? Also near the end after Bond escapes from the frozen lake he appears to be completely dry a few mins later!


Highlight to see answers via sorcery:

How did Bond survive the shooting and apparent drowning
Narrowly.

How did they blow-up the MI6 HQ? By computer hacking??
They opened the gas valves. This is stated in the film (I assume it refers to the heating system, done via computer - can't remember how much detail they went into)

How did the villain escape captivity?
When Q was hacking Silva's computer, Silva's computer was actually hacking MI6, so the all of the computer-controlled locks were opened. Bond said at that point this was Silva's plan all along - to get captured and taken to the heart of MI6 since he knew the protocols, etc.

Why did Bond accept a lift on the villain's boat ? Surely it would have made more sense to follow it secretly to the island?
That's what Bond does - brazenly courts danger from his enemies e.g. in Casino Royale and QoS when he dispenses with the MI6-approved cover stories / identities.

Also near the end after Bond escapes from the frozen lake he appears to be completely dry a few mins later!
It was cold so the water probably froze, evaporated or whatever happens at sub-zero temperatures.


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RE: Poor Plot - 7/11/2012 3:07:05 PM   
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clear enough but not effective enough, and no way well stressed


Must've beenstressed very well indeed. I wasn't even paying full attention because of some personal stuff playing on my mind, but I pretty much got what the deal was and why that would/could make someone from that world, with that training, act that way.

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RE: Poor Plot - 7/11/2012 3:08:52 PM   
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Very disappointing.There were too many unanswered questions in the plot.How did Bond survive the shooting and apparent drowning? What was the villains grudge against Judy Dench? How did they blow-up the MI6 HQ? By computer hacking?? How did the villain escape captivity ? Why did Bond accept a lift on the villain's boat ? Surely it would have made more sense to follow it secretly to the island? Also near the end after Bond escapes from the frozen lake he appears to be completely dry a few mins later!


1 - He survived by not dying
2 - What jobloffski said
3 - The gas supply was manipulated by Silva via computer hacking, yes.
4 - He escaped captivity by hiding a computer virus that shuts down all of the security systems in the makeshift MI6 HQ, and then kills his two guards (remember, he's basically evil Bond... perfectly capable of killing with his bare hands. The reason for blowing up MI6 HQ is because he knew about their back-up HQ and also knew the tunnel system surrounding it inside out.
5 - Bond's always been the least subtle spy in the world. He does this kind of thing regularly, even if it makes no sense. Just go with it.
6 - Movies do the 'gets out of water and is dry a few minutes later' thing all the time. Skyfall, as far as I recall, though, actually doesn't do this.

Is this gonna end up like The Dark Knight Rises thread, with people complaining about plot holes that only exist in the minds of people who couldn't be bothered actually watching the movie that's playing in front of them?

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RE: Poor Plot - 7/11/2012 3:29:12 PM   
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Followed by accusations that the explanations from those who did pay attention of why they aren't plot holes are just wishful thinking?

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RE: Poor Plot - 8/11/2012 8:21:24 AM   
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Is this gonna end up like The Dark Knight Rises thread, with people complaining about plot holes that only exist in the minds of people who couldn't be bothered actually watching the movie that's playing in front of them?


Oh fucking please, I was one of those who found lots of niggles in TDKR and loved Skyfall. The plot is not perfect but I can see it making thematic sense and builds the thematic beatifully. I would never say that about TDKR. And I would never write a silly post like this one...

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A drive from London to the Scottish Highlands isn’t that big of a deal to do. Holy sh*t. That henchman who just ignores the many deadly lizards circling around him was like something out of Austin Powers, and did Bond’s extremely short-lived gadget gun really have to glow green or red like some kids toy? Did Q really need to put lights on the gun, or is Bond and ourselves deemed so thick that lights are needed to hammer the idea home? WE GET IT! (and on that note, it was pretty handy that the dumb henchman just happened to take THAT one gun from Bond (has that ever happened before?), and then wasn’t even suspicious when it blinked frickin’ red lights at the back of it. What a moron!!

Scotland is not just a barren wasteland with a giant mansion in the middle of nowhere. Scotland is portrayed as a depressing sh*t hole where Bond grew up, hence why he’s depressing and cynical. Albert Finney – what, did he live there for the last 30 years holding a shotgun just waiting for Bond to return? What did he eat and drink in that time for 3 meals a day? Did he live there? How did he entertain himself? He seemed pretty fat, what was his deal? Why did Javier play loud music in the huge fantastical helicopter alerting Bond that he was outside? And why were all these evil henchmen willing to risk death for him? What was he offering them? All he wanted to do was kill M. Wouldn’t it have been better to fire some missiles at the mansion instead of the dumb fu**ing way he went about it?


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And clichés – this movie is FULL of them. The Straw Dogs, Assault on Precinct 13, Dog Soldiers etc trapped in a building with a secret tunnel exit while a bunch of faceless bad guys try and break in, with some Home Alone booby traps for good measure (seriously, during the preparation scene try playing the Home Alone music). Q talking to Bond on the earpiece while watching a little ‘Bond’ icon on a map on the computer - Mission Impossible, or Matrix, or countless other movies anyone?

The story was pretty mince too. Bond dies then survives somehow (apparently even when he’s a filthy homeless looking drunk he can still get laid extremely easily, unless he paid for it with some money he must have found at the bottom of the river where he clearly drowned) and some bad guy wants to kill M, and Bond has to protect her, which he fails to do. He has sex in a boat’s shower while some evil henchmen are up on deck minding their own business apparently and Bond isn’t wondering why they’re being so relaxed. For a super-spy on the boat he clicked his radio frequency ‘on’ pretty openly (and why doesn’t he just have another GPS capsule in his arm again like in Casino? - speaking of Casino Royale, when Bond breaks into M’s house AGAIN in this film, she should have said “I thought I told you never to…”). Bad guys with guns that just refuse to shoot Bond in the head, instead waiting politely for Bond to make his move. The Bond girls in this film are sh*t and there isn’t really a proper Bond girl here as it happens (apart from Judi Dench).


...for Skyfall.

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RE: Poor Plot - 8/11/2012 8:55:01 AM   
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Is that the narrative for TDKR now? That if you had a problem with it you were just looking for things to dislike in it?

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RE: Poor Plot - 8/11/2012 8:58:57 AM   
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It's a bit insulting, especially since I DID REALLY WANT TO REALLY LIKE IT. It was only by the director who made my two favorite recent blockbusters of the few years.



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RE: Poor Plot - 8/11/2012 9:00:33 AM   
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It's a bit insulting, especially since I DID REALLY WANT TO REALLY LIKE IT. It was only by the director who made my two favorite recent blockbusters of the few years.




Yeah ditto - it is so odd to be accused of all sorts when you genuinely love the guys work. It is just that one film didn't really fit together well.


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RE: Poor Plot - 8/11/2012 9:58:34 AM   
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Is that the narrative for TDKR now? That if you had a problem with it you were just looking for things to dislike in it?


When that is obviously the case, yes. Same with this movie (even though it's different people, admittedly).
It is possible to come up with legitimate problems with both movies... unfortunately both threads are full of people who didn't even bother watching so come up with things that "don't make sense" when they do when you pay attention. Listen to the script, etc.

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RE: Poor Plot - 8/11/2012 10:02:54 AM   
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Not that I want to get this thread further off track, but I haven't TDKR, why are people comparing the two movies ?
Are they so similar ?

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RE: Poor Plot - 8/11/2012 10:31:21 AM   
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Potentially spoilery...

Well, there are lots more parallels with TDK rather than TDKR but that said TDKR and SF both feature 'the ultimate opponent' as being someone with the same training as the hero who can therefore predict and manipulate the reactions to his actions of those he wishes to take vengeance on to suit his agenda, with some injury that has damaged his mouth and surrounding area in some way, whose damage is more psychological and personalised than purely dastardly, whose intention to get his vengeance ultimately leads to him meeting his end in a way that has him 'punked' from behind in his moment of personal triumph. And both have a hero, apparently past his best, who suffers an injury and psychological defeat that he has to come back from, a 'fall' from which to 'rise'.

Must be something in the zeitgeist, and there are more parallels that could be drawn between the two 'properties' as a result of Skyfall (specific references to heroes rising out of the damage caused by loss of things they hold dear and their life being about protecting their beloved territory, and even the influence of a faithful family retainer in forming the character of the hero after being orphaned as a child, in the case of Bond, a gamekeeper, who after killing people makes quips, a trait of Bond in an older character that made some people think the part might have been intended for Connery, and apparently that was actually considered, which would have been a ridiculous piece of stunt cameo casting, IMO, much better to cast anyone else, for a role intended to show a little of what formed Bond's character).



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RE: Not Bad But... - 8/11/2012 1:00:33 PM   
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I see people have already pointed out some silly bits in Skyfall. I enjoyed it while it was on, but after I started to think about it a lot of it made no sense, and was actually inferior to Quantum of Solace.

A drive from London to the Scottish Highlands isn’t that big of a deal to do. Holy sh*t. That henchman who just ignores the many deadly lizards circling around him was like something out of Austin Powers, and did Bond’s extremely short-lived gadget gun really have to glow green or red like some kids toy? Did Q really need to put lights on the gun, or is Bond and ourselves deemed so thick that lights are needed to hammer the idea home? WE GET IT! (and on that note, it was pretty handy that the dumb henchman just happened to take THAT one gun from Bond (has that ever happened before?), and then wasn’t even suspicious when it blinked frickin’ red lights at the back of it. What a moron!!

Scotland is not just a barren wasteland with a giant mansion in the middle of nowhere. Scotland is portrayed as a depressing sh*t hole where Bond grew up, hence why he’s depressing and cynical. Albert Finney – what, did he live there for the last 30 years holding a shotgun just waiting for Bond to return? What did he eat and drink in that time for 3 meals a day? Did he live there? How did he entertain himself? He seemed pretty fat, what was his deal? Why did Javier play loud music in the huge fantastical helicopter alerting Bond that he was outside? And why were all these evil henchmen willing to risk death for him? What was he offering them? All he wanted to do was kill M. Wouldn’t it have been better to fire some missiles at the mansion instead of the dumb fu**ing way he went about it?


And clichés – this movie is FULL of them. The Straw Dogs, Assault on Precinct 13, Dog Soldiers etc trapped in a building with a secret tunnel exit while a bunch of faceless bad guys try and break in, with some Home Alone booby traps for good measure (seriously, during the preparation scene try playing the Home Alone music). Q talking to Bond on the earpiece while watching a little ‘Bond’ icon on a map on the computer - Mission Impossible, or Matrix, or countless other movies anyone?

The story was pretty mince too. Bond dies then survives somehow (apparently even when he’s a filthy homeless looking drunk he can still get laid extremely easily, unless he paid for it with some money he must have found at the bottom of the river where he clearly drowned) and some bad guy wants to kill M, and Bond has to protect her, which he fails to do. He has sex in a boat’s shower while some evil henchmen are up on deck minding their own business apparently and Bond isn’t wondering why they’re being so relaxed. For a super-spy on the boat he clicked his radio frequency ‘on’ pretty openly (and why doesn’t he just have another GPS capsule in his arm again like in Casino? - speaking of Casino Royale, when Bond breaks into M’s house AGAIN in this film, she should have said “I thought I told you never to…”). Bad guys with guns that just refuse to shoot Bond in the head, instead waiting politely for Bond to make his move. The Bond girls in this film are sh*t and there isn’t really a proper Bond girl here as it happens (apart from Judi Dench).

I could probably go on all day about more stupid parts, but the last part I will mention is the dig at Goldeneye. Q says “What were you expecting, an exploding pen?”. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you. All that line did was make me reminisce fondly of the other film. Goldeneye brought Bond back to the masses and reinvigorated people’s interest in the franchise. What Q should have said here is, “What did you expect, keys to an invisible car?”. That would have been fairer and funnier, because Die Another Day was, just awful.

Like I say I enjoyed the movie when it was on though, and particularly the VERY end when (SPOILER) Q, Moneypenny, and the male M are all in place. We as the audience are meant to think “oh, this is where we came in!”. And it’s great that the Bond franchise is still going strong, as I LOVED Casino Royale and really liked Quantum of Solace.



So . . . you weren't bothered by the gun barrel being at the end then?


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RE: Bond back on top (no shagging pun intended) - 8/11/2012 3:01:49 PM   
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Didn't expect it to live up to the hype, but it did. The story was both tight but allowed scenes to breathe, and the cinematography during certain locations was so lush it was almost psychedelic. The movie managed to walk the tightrope of feeling like Bond but doing its own thing. The more I remember it the like it.

People need to get over the lightheartedness issue. James Cameron was right on why True Lies 2 could never be made: "because terrorism isn't funny anymore." Be happy with whatever humour you get in these movies now, because if the box office for Skyfall is anything to go by we're going to be having the 'serious' Bond for a while yet.
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RE: I'm torn... - 8/11/2012 3:19:12 PM   
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It was 'OK' but I came away feeling a bit like it was all fart & no poo.


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RE: Not Bad But... - 8/11/2012 8:22:45 PM   
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Lol - no I thought that was fine, kept it consistent with Quantum and it probably wouldn't have worked directly before the opening scene. They need to have it at the start of the next one though.

I forgot to mention the elevator bit though - SuperBond to the rescue!...who just failed his physical. Oh, and how actually did Javier escape from his cliche'd cell? I don't think he had a gun or anything. And the train crashing through at that precise moment.

Meh. Think I'l take a wee drive to The Highlands to clear my head.

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RE: Poor Plot - 8/11/2012 9:22:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

Is that the narrative for TDKR now? That if you had a problem with it you were just looking for things to dislike in it?


When that is obviously the case, yes. Same with this movie (even though it's different people, admittedly).
It is possible to come up with legitimate problems with both movies... unfortunately both threads are full of people who didn't even bother watching so come up with things that "don't make sense" when they do when you pay attention. Listen to the script, etc.


Only it wasn't my case and neither Girv's. I did listen to every single line in that film see the characters and kept attention to what was going on, I still had many problems and things I found derpy for the sake of it in a film not fit for it, even though I enjoyed most of it.

Oh and a Bond film having cliches, don't most Bond films have them and don't them all follow trends and plot motifs seen in that era? Even by the 60/70s people saw the repititiveness of the formula.

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I forgot to mention the elevator bit though - SuperBond to the rescue!...who just failed his physical. Oh, and how actually did Javier escape from his cliche'd cell? I don't think he had a gun or anything. And the train crashing through at that precise moment.


Is it that hard to imagine a cage opening after the power going wrong, an agent as good as Bond besting the gaurds in a way Bond has done more than a hundred times and him finding other ways to escape the base while seeing how London works (the train crashing is pretty much OTT, but the film kinda ditches most of the two previous installments pretentions of realism)? The man was planning the plan for at least 20 years and could access anything.

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There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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I really wish I could go down to see Privates

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RE: Poor Plot - 8/11/2012 10:41:14 PM   
manwihtheplan

 

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If this is true - and it is The Sun (!) - it's a shame Craig feels the way he does..

Daniel Craig: I want to quit 007

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/film/4633187/daniel-craig-wants-to-quit-james-bond-movies.html

I can't stand the guy as Bond (seems a decent enough bloke, though) but if this is true it would have been nice for him to have shown a little more gratitude. Without Bond he'd be just another actor with less fame and fortune. Someone on another site said there is another source for this 'news' so who knows, it might be true.

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RE: Poor Plot - 8/11/2012 10:43:10 PM   
Deviation


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ORIGINAL: manwihtheplan

If this is true - and it is The Sun (!), it's a shame Craig feels the way he does:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/film/4633187/daniel-craig-wants-to-quit-james-bond-movies.html

I can't stand the guy as Bond but if this is true it would have been nice to have shown a little more gratitude. Someone on another site said there is another source for this 'news' so who knows, it might be true.


Have you seen the film? Can we ban him from this thread until he has seen the film? At least those I've disagreed with before have seen it.

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I really wish I could go down to see Privates

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