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for me, so I wouldn't have to watch it.

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Sounds too fanfictiony for my taste. If it had gone that way, it wouldn't have been a prequel. And other than the final scene where the Xenomorph comes at the wrong place, I really liked Prometheus

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Sounds too fanfictiony for my taste. If it had gone that way, it wouldn't have been a prequel. And other than the final scene where the Xenomorph comes at the wrong place, I really liked Prometheus

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Has anyone here actually watched the film? There was a "Facehugger", it just happened to be much bigger than we've seen before. Which was appropriate given the context.

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I'm a huge fan of the original 2 films possibly the 3rd but Prometheus was meant to answer questions and most importantly be a great Sci-Fi!

That is exactly what it wasn't. All it did was create confusion with it's absurd ideas and plot holes. The characters where only there to be killed and the way at the end they just fly into the ship and kill themselves without a second though is hilarious, that and the fact that Shaw can roll out of the way of a huge ship coming down while Theron just runs in a straight line made me laugh so hard.

The fact that they all take off their helmets in an Alien environment and then the biologist at the first sign of seeing an alien head wants to leave as he's scared, then that same man want to grab the cobra penis like it's his best mate is just a few of the endless stupid mistakes in this movie.

Ohh yeah and they get lost when they know the location of everyone in their and have a detailed map arrrhhhhhhh this film makes no sense!!!!

Oh and the crem de la crem SPACE JESUS!!!! Good one Ridley you failed on so many levels and anyone who can't see the flaws in this film is not understanding what Ridley was even trying to do... look it up online... no one can figure it out!

All he did was create more confusion and ruin what should have been the best Sci-Fi in decades... it's a piece of crap everyone wake up!

No directors cut or deleted scenes would have made any difference, although the face huggers may have helped breach the gap!

Watch this and you'll get what I'm saying... it is funny!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x1YuvUQFJ0

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Wait i just figured it out.

It was created by the writer of LOST, Six - seven seasons, I don't know, of pure cock tease... he should never be allowed near a script again in his life I hate the man! Ridley it's over retire!

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Has anyone here actually watched the film? There was a "Facehugger", it just happened to be much bigger than we've seen before. Which was appropriate given the context.

Totally (SPOILER TEXT HIGHLIGHT BELOW TO READ)

The thing that wrapped itself around the Engineer was a giant face hugger and because of the size of it, the (en route to being the familiar) xenomorph creature that burst out of him was proportionally bigger than the one that burst out of John Hurt originally. I don't see how people can't follow this stuff. Back in the day we were told the creature had attributes in common with a virus. In Prometheus the goo behaved like a virus does, continually mutating until eventually (and post the end of the film) reaching a sustainable form in its own right. The first engineer drinks the, we see it in a molecular level, altering DNA and reconfiguring it. Later, small worms, bigger snake like, then with tentacles, and finally xenomorph like. The 'virus' acts differently according to the level/type of exposure each person as it either destroys, or creates/grows in order to follow the one impulse it has: to survive. The events happening to the people are akin to what we would see of a virus acting on cells if we were looking through a microscope. In the latter case, we have the 'God' perspective seeing creation happen and being the intelligence looking down on simpler beings, in the former, something much bigger than us would regard us as the cells in the petri dish, which has pretty harrowing implications not necessarily needing basic body horror to be conveyed while having a decent share of body horror too. And the facehugger would have destroyed Shaw's body if she hadn't got it out of her just like the growing xenomorph broke out of the engineer, who himself fell foul of the theme of the film relating to 'that which we create to serve us/our desire to create can possibly go on to destroy us (which is basic Frankenstein stuff, a story itself originally subtitled 'the New Prometheus) This film is amazing!!!

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Wait i just figured it out.

It was created by the writer of LOST, Six - seven seasons, I don't know, of pure cock tease... he should never be allowed near a script again in his life I hate the man! Ridley it's over retire!

Actually, that view of Lost is one of the biggest bullshit misconceptions I've come across in recent years. By the end of Season Six, all of the mysteries had been cleared up... sometimes years before. It's not their problem if most of the viewing public a) didn't pay attention and kept on bringing things up that were answered years ago, and b) started fixating on inconsequential details which weren't mysteries to begin with.

On the topic of Prometheus, I agree with jobloffski and waltham1979's views. It's great sci-fi because it asks big questions, and not all big questions in life are meant to be answered.

Also, the character who was scared of the Engineer but wanted to get a closer look at the worm thing? It's because the worm thing is his specialty as a biologist, and big scary monsters aren't.

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ORIGINAL: Retrorube

Wait i just figured it out.

It was created by the writer of LOST, Six - seven seasons, I don't know, of pure cock tease... he should never be allowed near a script again in his life I hate the man! Ridley it's over retire!

Actually, that view of Lost is one of the biggest bullshit misconceptions I've come across in recent years. By the end of Season Six, all of the mysteries had been cleared up... sometimes years before. It's not their problem if most of the viewing public a) didn't pay attention and kept on bringing things up that were answered years ago, and b) started fixating on inconsequential details which weren't mysteries to begin with.

On the topic of Prometheus, I agree with jobloffski and waltham1979's views. It's great sci-fi because it asks big questions, and not all big questions in life are meant to be answered.

Also, the character who was scared of the Engineer but wanted to get a closer look at the worm thing? It's because the worm thing is his specialty as a biologist, and big scary monsters aren't.

He's a Biologist mate so anything that involes Biology i.e DNA and or anything Molecular be it living or dead should interest him... it's that simple fella and the reason he was on the ship! Oh wait everyone decided to fly to the other side of the Universe without even knowing why and giving up 4-8 years of their earth life without even so much as a question uummmmm! But that's the least of the issues with this film... The characters and what they do are one of the worst things about it... Remember In Space no one can hear your disappointment!

So what did you think of the whole Space Jesus concept? It asked big questions... YES, did it answer any of them or explain what the hell it was trying to say... no it just made very little sense!

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SPOILER!


Has anyone here actually watched the film? There was a "Facehugger", it just happened to be much bigger than we've seen before. Which was appropriate given the context.

Totally (SPOILER TEXT HIGHLIGHT BELOW TO READ)

The thing that wrapped itself around the Engineer was a giant face hugger and because of the size of it, the (en route to being the familiar) xenomorph creature that burst out of him was proportionally bigger than the one that burst out of John Hurt originally. I don't see how people can't follow this stuff. Back in the day we were told the creature had attributes in common with a virus. In Prometheus the goo behaved like a virus does, continually mutating until eventually (and post the end of the film) reaching a sustainable form in its own right. The first engineer drinks the, we see it in a molecular level, altering DNA and reconfiguring it. Later, small worms, bigger snake like, then with tentacles, and finally xenomorph like. The 'virus' acts differently according to the level/type of exposure each person as it either destroys, or creates/grows in order to follow the one impulse it has: to survive. The events happening to the people are akin to what we would see of a virus acting on cells if we were looking through a microscope. In the latter case, we have the 'God' perspective seeing creation happen and being the intelligence looking down on simpler beings, in the former, something much bigger than us would regard us as the cells in the petri dish, which has pretty harrowing implications not necessarily needing basic body horror to be conveyed while having a decent share of body horror too. And the facehugger would have destroyed Shaw's body if she hadn't got it out of her just like the growing xenomorph broke out of the engineer, who himself fell foul of the theme of the film relating to 'that which we create to serve us/our desire to create can possibly go on to destroy us (which is basic Frankenstein stuff, a story itself originally subtitled 'the New Prometheus) This film is amazing!!!

I've discussed my take on the Alien life cycle's we see in Prometheus in various threads so won't go into much detail. Having said that!

My take on the proto-facehugger was that as it was still Holloways mutation. It's his sperm mutated by the Engineer's bio creation/destruction goo. It transfers to Shaw when they have sex, however, it doesn't move on within her as she can't get pregnant. The mutated sperm cant cause fertilisation in her so continues to mutate within that form, growning as a mutant sperm within Shaw, until she removes it in the Med-Pod. I don't think it's coincidence that it looks as it does. It has nowhere else to go once it's extracted from Shaw, and continues to mutate within it's form. Part of the point of sperm is to kick off the fertilisation of eggs, without that ability it mutates to create a fertilisation process that forcess the embryo/egg/creature into a host - in Prometheus it does that on the Engineer, kicking off the next part of the process, which is the proto-Alien (Deacon) that is born with what looks like an egg sack. One could assume that the eggs from the Deacon are the smaller face-huggers, or a first generation of them. I've always thought that the Deacon mural within the amuple room was a warning sign to Engineers - in the same way our factories would have a 'Don't foget your goggle!' sign. The Engineer's know that with their bio goo in them, they can develop Deacons/Proto Alien's, which essentially work as the perfect killing machine (born of the perfect creators - The Engineers). So yea, Promethues definately had a face hugger (The Trilobite) but it's more a first generation version.