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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 24/2/2013 2:20:20 PM   
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what about Star Trek 2009s beaming white Apple store bridge? IMO theyd have been better off going with something not too different to the style of bridge from the original films (obviously with updated screens, buttons etc)

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 24/2/2013 2:20:25 PM   
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Fluffy in Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone looks awful now I'm afraid to say. As do some of the Quidditch matches from the first film. I also agree that Gollum doesn't look quite as good as I remember - still pretty awesome.

It really is amazing how classic CGI looks better than some recent stuff. Terminator 2 and Jurrasic Park are older films that still look wonderful and the CGI in them has aged brilliantly.


Probably cos it wasn't over-used. There's only about 15 or 20 minutes of CG dino action in Jurassic Park, if that and the T-1000 (shiny, metallic, fluid) played beatifully to CG's then-limitations. CG is still at its best when used sparingly or to invisibly augment without drawing attention to itself the way Christopher Nolan does. The recent Bond's (obviously influenced by The Dark Knight trilogy) have clearly learned from the embarrassingly mis-judged over-use of sub-par CG in Die Another Day - check out Pierce Brosnan's reaction to it in Everything or Nothing...

From Citizen Kane to Life of Pi, I still think the best "special effect" movies are the ones where you don't even realise you're watching special effects half the time.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 24/2/2013 2:30:31 PM   
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Seventies Bond movies which started jumping on then-current bandwagons like blaxploitation, chop-socky and sci-fi instead of being the trend-setters they once were. Also Roger Moore's "with-it" flares and safari suits which are laughably dated now whereas Connery's classic tux and suits from the sixties remain timeless - one of my favourite Alan Partridge character touches is that he's the sort of guy who thinks Moore is the best James Bond!

Also, 007 should beware hi-tech product placement which becomes lo-tech (and old news) very quickly indeed - check out that Sony Ericsson phone shamelessly plugged in Casino Royale...

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 24/2/2013 2:38:48 PM   
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90s internet "thrillers" like, er, The Net which look like wax-cylinder-based thrillers now. Also, I fear, the current cliche du jour and bane of action cinema at the moment, "internet terrorism," will inevitably date just as badly and not do recent Bond films any favours at all in the long run. That line in Skyfall about being able to anything with a laptop makes me cringe every time I hear it. I want to see 007 with a laptop in his hands about as much as I want to see him brandish a feather duster!

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 24/2/2013 7:32:48 PM   
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My Big Fat Greek Wedding seems very quaint and twee now.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 24/2/2013 8:21:38 PM   
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It wasn't quaint and twee at the time? Although somehow I doubt I was in its target demographic...

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ORIGINAL: jackcarter

what about Star Trek 2009s beaming white Apple store bridge? IMO theyd have been better off going with something not too different to the style of bridge from the original films (obviously with updated screens, buttons etc)


That's a good one. Then again it could be deliberate. Every era of Trek reflects the fashions, styles and prejudices of the decade in which is was made from miniskirts and beehives in the sixties to touchy-feely counsellors in the eighties and dates horribly as a result. Which is why from old Flash Gordon serials to space samurai, Nazi-like Imperials to Bedouin-style Sandpeople, George Lucas very carefully based the look of his "futuristic" space opera on the past. (Similarly, Han Solo's blaster is a modified broom-handled Mauser.) It's also why he used a then-very unfashionable orchestral score. Timeless, you see...


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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 24/2/2013 8:29:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Squidward Hark Bugle

My Big Fat Greek Wedding seems very quaint and twee now.



It did back then too.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 24/2/2013 8:57:32 PM   
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I guess it was then too.

I would make the argument that narrative films are dated from the moment of their inception. Like, it's been DONE, man. Like, A MILLION TIMES.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 24/2/2013 9:37:50 PM   
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Yeah, well, films sort of need a narrative otherwise they'd just be images linked together with no purpose and it would be rubbish if every single film were like that.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 24/2/2013 10:16:20 PM   
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Oh god we're going there again aren't we...

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 24/2/2013 10:25:05 PM   
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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 25/2/2013 9:52:49 AM   
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Yeah, well, films sort of need a narrative otherwise they'd just be images linked together with no purpose and it would be rubbish if every single film were like that.


I think I should have said plot instead of narrative.

In my opinion films like Koyaanisqatsi, The Tree Of Life and Baby Snakes are the best kind of films, because they take full advantage of film as a visual medium. There just aren't enough of them.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 27/2/2013 9:43:33 AM   
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Never thought about it, but goddamnit - you're right!

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 25/3/2013 12:58:29 PM   
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The Blair Witch Project. Kick-Ass will definitely date soon as well.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 25/3/2013 1:19:01 PM   
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How's The Matrix looking these days, mobile and "cool" fashions wise?

Cos if nothing's as dated as yesterday's future, then nothing dates quicker than trendy science fiction. Just try to picture what the cooler-than-thou Matrix would look like if it had been made in 1969 and not 1999. Instead of leather coats and mirror shades, Neo and co would have been wearing flares, kaftans and grannie glasses as they karate kicked Agent Smith's goons to a cutting edge soundtrack of Jefferson Airplane and The Lovin' Spoonful. That's how trendy The Matrix will look some day. Faaaaaar out!


I think one obvious dated thing in The Matrix is the futuristic use of minidiscs.  I'm not sure they were even cosidered to be all that futuristic when the film came out?

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 9/4/2013 8:24:52 PM   
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Quite a few films from the 1980s. One that sticks out for me is Michael Mann's "Manhunter," a film that tries so hard to be slick and stylish and carry that Mann/Miami Vice vibe, but just comes across now as incredibly hokey and corny. "It's just you and me, sport!"

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 9/4/2013 11:26:22 PM   
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...(Similarly, Han Solo's blaster is a modified broom-handled Mauser.)

I wonder if Han's grandad left him it?

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 10/4/2013 10:12:50 PM   
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Films that are '' SHOT IN 3D ! ''

Those are really going to date from this current era of filmaking before the fad ( hopefully ) dies out soon.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 10/4/2013 11:49:44 PM   
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Hopefully it goes away like it did in the 80s, and the 50s before that

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 11/4/2013 5:22:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chris kilby

It wasn't quaint and twee at the time? Although somehow I doubt I was in its target demographic...

quote:

ORIGINAL: jackcarter

what about Star Trek 2009s beaming white Apple store bridge? IMO theyd have been better off going with something not too different to the style of bridge from the original films (obviously with updated screens, buttons etc)


That's a good one. Then again it could be deliberate. Every era of Trek reflects the fashions, styles and prejudices of the decade in which is was made from miniskirts and beehives in the sixties to touchy-feely counsellors in the eighties and dates horribly as a result. Which is why from old Flash Gordon serials to space samurai, Nazi-like Imperials to Bedouin-style Sandpeople, George Lucas very carefully based the look of his "futuristic" space opera on the past. (Similarly, Han Solo's blaster is a modified broom-handled Mauser.) It's also why he used a then-very unfashionable orchestral score. Timeless, you see...


There's bits in Star Wars that look 70s, that 'scanner' or whatever they brought onto the Milenium falcon in the death star looks pathetic

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 13/4/2013 4:28:12 AM   
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Not many, though. The odd sideburn and dodgy hair-don't apart, it's remarkable how un-dated the first Star Wars is. Especially considering the decade it was made. You only have to look at Space 1999 by comparison - "Flares. In. SPAAAAAAAAACE...!!!"

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 13/4/2013 10:11:17 AM   
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quote:

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Kick-Ass will definitely date soon as well.


Any particular reason?

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 18/4/2013 1:00:58 PM   
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Pretty much any film from the 1980's which took place during that decade. You take just one look at all of the permed hair and you know you are in the 80's. Doesn't matter the genre, this fact holds true.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 18/4/2013 1:19:13 PM   
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Pretty much any film from the 1980's which took place during that decade. You take just one look at all of the permed hair and you know you are in the 80's. Doesn't matter the genre, this fact holds true.


The 80's were 30 years ago. That's not 'dating quickly'

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 18/4/2013 2:09:40 PM   
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Pretty much any film from the 1980's which took place during that decade. You take just one look at all of the permed hair and you know you are in the 80's. Doesn't matter the genre, this fact holds true.


The 80's were 30 years ago. That's not 'dating quickly'

80's films were dated in the 90's, that's becoming dated pretty quickly.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 18/4/2013 3:59:55 PM   
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The best 80s films resist becoming dated because they are resolutely 80s based. For instance Black Rain. It's SO 80s. The period is perfect. So long as you don't watch it thinking it is meant to be now, it's absolutely fine.

I would disagree with the idea that Blair Witch is dated. With everyone filming everything on their phones, the idea of kids filming everything in the woods is still very relevant.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 18/4/2013 4:11:21 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr Gittes

Kick-Ass will definitely date soon as well.


Any particular reason?


One line dated it almost immediately. When he's listing all of the things he'll never get to do if he dies, he includes "I'll never find out how Lost ends".

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 18/4/2013 4:15:45 PM   
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Shrek has dated. And I predicted it would when it came out. All the pop culture references have a very short shelf life.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 18/4/2013 4:49:38 PM   
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Shrek has dated. And I predicted it would when it came out. All the pop culture references have a very short shelf life.

Always,always going to happen.I also seem to vaguely remember one of the producers on Shrek ll making similar comments.

I can foresee AVATAR aging quite abit in the future,that's of course if James Cameron doesn't go all out George Lucas and starts "updating" the film,which I can see him doing.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 18/4/2013 4:54:06 PM   
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The best 80s films resist becoming dated because they are resolutely 80s based. For instance Black Rain. It's SO 80s. The period is perfect. So long as you don't watch it thinking it is meant to be now, it's absolutely fine.

I would disagree with the idea that Blair Witch is dated. With everyone filming everything on their phones, the idea of kids filming everything in the woods is still very relevant.

Predator is another great example of that because it's so over the top.

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