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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 8/10/2012 5:10:09 PM   
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The problem with some use of CGI is that if there isn't an emotional investment - it WILL age quick.

Look at the original Mario Bros game - looks old as hell right? But you look at it fondly, buy into it and play not realising - the quality is there. Film wise - look at T2 - everything makes sense when CGI is used. Its used to add to the story, not just having it for the sake of it.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 10/10/2012 12:56:29 AM   
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Robocop and Aliens both look very 80s now. With Robocop that isn't a problem as it was always so blatantly an 80s satire - evil yuppie scumbag villains; OCP is the USA; the seemingly benign Old Man is Reagan, etc. But while the rest of Aliens is still great, its evil yuppie scumbag villains (complete with none-more-Miami Vice turned up collars) date the film horribly like no other entry in the series - Burke even carries a filofax at one point! There's nothing as dated as yesterday's future.

Oh, and sub-par CGI was the bane of 90s cinema. An American Werewolf in London still looks great while An American Werewolf in Paris always looked shit. Heck, its the bane of cinema now - what looks better, John Carpenter's The Thing or the recent prequel/remake/premake whatever the feck it was?

PS: Nicholson notwithstanding, Easy Rider is all but unwatchable now - oh, I got a helmet. I got a beauty!

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 11/10/2012 6:10:59 PM   
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lawnmower man just looks old as does anything where they base a film on technology, Tron etc. literally 1 year later when all the new tech comes out.
Cellular is the same, avoid phones in movies, they are a sure fire way to instantly date a movie.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 11/10/2012 8:03:16 PM   
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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 13/10/2012 4:47:18 PM   
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Total Recall (1990) looks really dated now. Pretty much most things from the 90's and 2000's with CGI have started to look dated, but then there's stuff like the T-Rex from Jurassic Park, Gollum and some stuff from Starship Troopers that look better than any CGI creations since.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 13/10/2012 5:03:28 PM   
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I never thought Gollum looked as great as he was hyped to.

I can't remember if it is Total Recall or The Running Man (it might be both) but in the future they still use VHS tapes.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 13/10/2012 5:39:48 PM   
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quote:

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Total Recall (1990) looks really dated now. Pretty much most things from the 90's and 2000's with CGI have started to look dated, but then there's stuff like the T-Rex from Jurassic Park, Gollum and some stuff from Starship Troopers that look better than any CGI creations since.


But its still awesome and miles better than the shitty remake.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 13/10/2012 5:46:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chris kilby

Robocop and Aliens both look very 80s now. With Robocop that isn't a problem as it was always so blatantly an 80s satire - evil yuppie scumbag villains; OCP is the USA; the seemingly benign Old Man is Reagan, etc. But while the rest of Aliens is still great, its evil yuppie scumbag villains (complete with none-more-Miami Vice turned up collars) date the film horribly like no other entry in the series - Burke even carries a filofax at one point! There's nothing as dated as yesterday's future.


i guess it dosnt help that Burke is played by BHCs Det. Jeffrey 'This is not my office!' Friedman complete with Shatfro 80s perm. and being esstentially an 80s shoot em up with (now) cliched action movie characters over the dark mysterious eeriness of the Derelict/Space Jockey and the more naturalistic approach to the characters of Alien.

as a result i dont think Alien hasnt dated anywhere much as Aliens. same with Blade Runner and 2001 (even though the computer interfaces look dated you can sort of rationalize that there's some reason for them to look like that in the future)

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 14/10/2012 10:57:11 AM   
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Yeah. There are no mobile phones in Blade Runner either. But then maybe a computer virus, atmospheric conditions or all the junk up in space fucked-up satellite communications in the future.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 14/10/2012 11:16:14 AM   
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How's The Matrix looking these days, mobile and "cool" fashions wise?

Cos if nothing's as dated as yesterday's future, then nothing dates quicker than trendy science fiction. Just try to picture what the cooler-than-thou Matrix would look like if it had been made in 1969 and not 1999. Instead of leather coats and mirror shades, Neo and co would have been wearing flares, kaftans and grannie glasses as they karate kicked Agent Smith's goons to a cutting edge soundtrack of Jefferson Airplane and The Lovin' Spoonful. That's how trendy The Matrix will look some day. Faaaaaar out!

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 15/10/2012 5:35:47 PM   
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Austin Powers 3 has aged infinitely more than the first two. Movies based on pop-culture references stay relevant for about 3 minutes. Same goes for Scary Movie too. Jokes based around beer commercials of the time will never really stay fresh.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 15/10/2012 7:21:27 PM   
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I tried to watch Crocodile Dundee the other day, and my God that has really dated. Not only by looking more 80's than a Madonna video, but also the production values look like a 70s made for TV movie.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 15/10/2012 7:21:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chris kilby

How's The Matrix looking these days, mobile and "cool" fashions wise?

Cos if nothing's as dated as yesterday's future, then nothing dates quicker than trendy science fiction. Just try to picture what the cooler-than-thou Matrix would look like if it had been made in 1969 and not 1999. Instead of leather coats and mirror shades, Neo and co would have been wearing flares, kaftans and grannie glasses as they karate kicked Agent Smith's goons to a cutting edge soundtrack of Jefferson Airplane and The Lovin' Spoonful. That's how trendy The Matrix will look some day. Faaaaaar out!


Of course the scenes in the matrix are set in 1999 so they don't have the problem of badly predicting the future.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 15/10/2012 7:50:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bobatim

I tried to watch Crocodile Dundee the other day, and my God that has really dated. Not only by looking more 80's than a Madonna video, but also the production values look like a 70s made for TV movie.


Still funny though. And that's all that matters.

Comedies traditionally aren't very cinematic anyway; that's not what they're about. Comedies tend to be low-budget - you don't need to spend big bucks to get big laughs, so why bother? Just look at Clerks and Airplane, laugh-for-laugh arguably two of the funniest movies ever made. Tootsie is very flat and TVM-like but that's still bloody funny as well. The exceptions to this are probably The Blues Brothers and, especially, Tropic Thunder, both of which had their deliberately "epic" production values held against them for being inherently not funny.

Then there are the large-scale, mega-budget, all-star caper movies of the 60s (It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World; Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines; Monte Carlo or Bust, et al) some of which are still quite entertaining but not particularly funny. And I remember Tim Robbins quoting someone saying you can't be funny on big sets then walking on to the frickin' huge sets of The Hudsucker Proxy. Which I love, BTW. I think it's hilarious. One of my favourite Coen Brothers movies.

But generally, when it comes to laughs, size isn't everything. Epic directors from Kubrick and Lean to James Cameron and, especially, Ridley Scott aren't exactly renowned for their yuck-fests!

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 18/2/2013 4:32:25 AM   
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Fluffy in Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone looks awful now I'm afraid to say. As do some of the Quidditch matches from the first film. I also agree that Gollum doesn't look quite as good as I remember - still pretty awesome.

It really is amazing how classic CGI looks better than some recent stuff. Terminator 2 and Jurrasic Park are older films that still look wonderful and the CGI in them has aged brilliantly.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 18/2/2013 4:35:49 AM   
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Oh, and it pains me to say this, but Toy Story doesn't look quite as stunning I remember. It still looks really really good, and I think its just that recent Pixar stuff has just become so amazingly beautiful, that some of the older films don't quite hold up. Again, maybe I don't mean it's aged badly, just that it doesn't look quite as good as their newer films. Which would make sense, as they're newer. I don't know what I'm saying really.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 18/2/2013 1:49:26 PM   
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Tony Stark mentioning Myspace at the start of Iron Man really dates the film.

Doesn't he know that everyone is on Facebook these days?

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 18/2/2013 3:23:15 PM   
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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 18/2/2013 5:12:47 PM   
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I find some tracks from the Goldeneye score by Eric Serra to be plain goofy, almost as if the music is from the late 80s, especially the music for the car chase between Bond and Onatopp at the beginning. Even at the time it seemed out of place, moreso nowadays.

+1 for the Bat-wing crash into the church steps in Burton's Batman. Miniatures all the way!

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 18/2/2013 5:18:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jackcarter

quote:

ORIGINAL: chris kilby

Robocop and Aliens both look very 80s now. With Robocop that isn't a problem as it was always so blatantly an 80s satire - evil yuppie scumbag villains; OCP is the USA; the seemingly benign Old Man is Reagan, etc. But while the rest of Aliens is still great, its evil yuppie scumbag villains (complete with none-more-Miami Vice turned up collars) date the film horribly like no other entry in the series - Burke even carries a filofax at one point! There's nothing as dated as yesterday's future.


i guess it dosnt help that Burke is played by BHCs Det. Jeffrey 'This is not my office!' Friedman complete with Shatfro 80s perm. and being esstentially an 80s shoot em up with (now) cliched action movie characters over the dark mysterious eeriness of the Derelict/Space Jockey and the more naturalistic approach to the characters of Alien.

as a result i dont think Alien hasnt dated anywhere much as Aliens. same with Blade Runner and 2001 (even though the computer interfaces look dated you can sort of rationalize that there's some reason for them to look like that in the future)


The spectrum ZX used for Mother dates Alien somewhat. There's a specific scene in The Ice Pirates which I've always considered to be a complete piss-take of Mother's interface. Also, I'm not sure the thematic template of the characters in Aliens can be cliched considering it was the 'unique' trend-setter. Everything that mimicked the platoon of troops thereafter is more specifically the cliche in question. Also, wouldn't Carter Burke be a banker now?

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 18/2/2013 5:27:29 PM   
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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 18/2/2013 7:16:25 PM   
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The pop-culture references in most of Dreamworks' noughties animation output (particularly from Shrek 2 onwards) are going to look mighty strange in the future. IMO the first two Shrek movies didn't need to try to shoe-horn in any of that stuff.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 19/2/2013 9:06:19 PM   
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Nothing dates quicker than a teen movie.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 19/2/2013 9:22:47 PM   
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quote:

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Peter Parker using Bing in Amazing Spider-Man.

That was dated before it was even released in cinemas

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 19/2/2013 9:47:00 PM   
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The Lord of the Rings, specifically Two Towers & Return. CGI Legolas looks awful now and very plastacine-y. Same goes for Spiderman 1 and the hot air balloon scene.



Spiderman's CGI was shit even back in the 2002 days.


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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 20/2/2013 1:43:25 AM   
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Peter Parker using Bing in Amazing Spider-Man.


I like Duncan Jones' response to "Who uses Bing?" when he was doing a Twitter commentary on Source Code's recent TV showing: "People who want an extra bit of money to make their movie look a lot better".

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 20/2/2013 11:43:07 AM   
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Bing is great for porn images.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 20/2/2013 12:16:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Darth Marenghi


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

Peter Parker using Bing in Amazing Spider-Man.


I like Duncan Jones' response to "Who uses Bing?" when he was doing a Twitter commentary on Source Code's recent TV showing: "People who want an extra bit of money to make their movie look a lot better".


Fair play to the man. Least he's honest.

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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 21/2/2013 2:44:24 PM   
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Total Recall (1990) looks really dated now. Pretty much most things from the 90's and 2000's with CGI have started to look dated, but then there's stuff like the T-Rex from Jurassic Park, Gollum and some stuff from Starship Troopers that look better than any CGI creations since.


Having recently watched all the Jurassic Park films lately, I noticed that the CGI in the first film held up a million times better than the CGI in the latter 2, the 3rd especially is awful.

On another note, dated CGI in films like Labyrinth & The Dark Crystal for example, are styles of CGI that I would love to see reproduced in a new film.


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RE: Films that have dated quickly - 24/2/2013 2:05:07 PM   
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Cronenberg's Existenz. Although it was already dated by the time it actually came out.


Agree. Its still a good film, but for 'virtual reality' C-berg was about 8 years too late.


Unlike Videodrome which was about twenty years ahead of its time.

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