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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 26/11/2013 7:25:58 PM   
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Just read the story on MSN which goes into a bit more detail than that BBC link. Really wish I hadn't. I'm not one for condoning violence but fuck it - I sincerely hope him and the two woman get a good fucking hiding every day for the rest of their miserable lives.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 26/11/2013 9:09:39 PM   
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Damn, the MSN story does really reveal some horrifying stuff. Even his laptop password showed his arrogance at what he was doing and what he was. I actually was rather nauseated reading it. Considering the level of crime involved here hopefully sentencing is harsh.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 27/11/2013 8:28:20 AM   
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Folk singers. Not high on the baby-sitting list are they?
I mean, if Mulligan and O'Hare were real, they'd have been arrested years ago.


Especially after I'm Not Saying I Didn't Love You.





Yes, what a sick, sick man. They couldn't even describe anything on Radio 5 as it was deemed too upsetting. Glad they managed to spare us from it (I'm sure it's out there but I've not sought it)

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 27/11/2013 10:32:27 AM   
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Can remember seeing him open for Joanna Newsom a few years ago and have known his name for ages before that from the Led Zeppelin connection, so this is a weird one to see for me.


I have spent years singing the praises of Roy Harper to everyone who would listen. As an artist, he has been one of my favourites in the genre since seeing the Led Zepp reference at around the age of 13 or 14. I've seen him in concert on a few occasions and recently was well pleased to discover that Sky Arts had produced a great documentary on him.

I'm now finding it impossible to separate that artist that I love from the vile human being who would commit this sort of action. I suppose he's like my musical Polanski, but all that wonderful music that he produced over the years that kept me entertained and lifted me on a number of occasions has now been irredeemably tarnished by this news. My feelings now are a horrible mixture of disgust and disappointment.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 27/11/2013 12:45:24 PM   
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Jesus titty cunting Christ.

Gerry Adams' brother too - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-25116672

It would appear the whole showbiz fraternity was/is at it.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 27/11/2013 2:09:20 PM   
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And to think that Gerry Adams isn't the least popular member of his own family now.
Shocking really that this thread hasn't dropped off the main page, and it doesn't look like it will either.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 27/11/2013 2:22:23 PM   
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And to think that Gerry Adams isn't the least popular member of his own family now.
Shocking really that this thread hasn't dropped off the main page, and it doesn't look like it will either.


So much for the Adams family values I suppose.

Two cunts, one family, No surprise.

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Following the conviction of Liam Adams, the Attorney General of Northern Ireland, John Larkin, has been asked to review a 2011 decision not to prosecute Gerry Adams over an allegation that he withheld information in connection with the case. The request for the review has been made by Northern Ireland's Director of Public Prosecutions Barra McGrory.[68] A statement from the DPP read: “The Director of Public Prosecutions, Barra McGrory QC, recognises that there has been considerable public interest surrounding the decision not to prosecute Mr Gerry Adams in October 2011 in relation to an allegation that he withheld information in connection with the Liam Adams case. While the director has confidence in the evidential decision taken by the PPS prior to his appointment, he has asked the Attorney General to independently review the matter. The Attorney General will be given full access to
all materials that he considers necessary to complete this review


Covering up known child abuse? Still striving to be a good Catholic in the eyes of the church.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 27/11/2013 2:42:01 PM   
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Just read the story on MSN which goes into a bit more detail than that BBC link. Really wish I hadn't. I'm not one for condoning violence but fuck it - I sincerely hope him and the two woman get a good fucking hiding every day for the rest of their miserable lives.


Jesus Fucking Christ that is horrific. Just horrible. I actually feel physically sick reading that. WTF is wrong with people? Those woman are vile excuses for humans. I hope those babies are with decent people now and are safe, loved and protected.



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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 27/11/2013 5:58:41 PM   
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I feel sorry for H from Steps. E Online fucked up bad by using his picture in the story for the Lostprophets scumbag. It was bad enough when members of the public made the mistake but with a 'news' site doing it, it brings out all the morons abusing the poor guy on Twitter. I mean, hate their music all you want, whatever, but nobody deserves that sort of abuse for something they didn't do.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 27/11/2013 6:24:21 PM   
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I feel sorry for H from Steps. E Online fucked up bad by using his picture in the story for the Lostprophets scumbag. It was bad enough when members of the public made the mistake but with a 'news' site doing it, it brings out all the morons abusing the poor guy on Twitter. I mean, hate their music all you want, whatever, but nobody deserves that sort of abuse for something they didn't do.



Just read some of the abuse he got (H).
Jeez,there's some utter bellends out there.

This has really pissed me off.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 27/11/2013 7:15:17 PM   
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I would say he would be quite justified in taking legal action considering the level of the crimes he has mistakenly been linked with.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 27/11/2013 7:41:54 PM   
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Oh, he really should sue their arses off.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 27/11/2013 9:21:41 PM   
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I used to like Lostprophets back in the day, saw them live a couple of times, and I feel bad for the musicians (NOT Watkins) who are now damned by their association with this utterly evil bastard...

I hope they can find other work.

And this thing about the guy from Steps whose getting abuse... words fail.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 27/11/2013 10:03:40 PM   
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I saw Lostprophets supporting Black Rebel Motorcycle Club and Andrew WK in 2002 and after their set he was stood in the corridor talking to two clearly teenaged lasses for well over an hour. Which didn't particularly mean anything at the time - young girls talking to famous rock stars is nothing new, nor inherently suspicious, though when I read the story yesterday the memory still made my blood freeze.
I'm just pleased his band were utter shit and I wasn't into them - like Sharkboy said about Roy Harper, I'd be fucking gutted if it was someone whose work I loved.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 28/11/2013 3:20:39 AM   
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What did the band know and when did they know it? They had motive to keep this stuff quiet for fame and fortune.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 28/11/2013 7:49:14 AM   
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I think suing anyone is a bit harsh, we're not America. It was a mistake, no harm has been done, and to be fair, H from Steps hasn't had this much publicity, ever.
I don't know what he does for a living now but if he's got half a brain he could use to his advantage, he could be in the jungle/on big brother this time next year.
Or perhaps team up with my local dentist, Fred West, for a duet.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 28/11/2013 1:20:58 PM   
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Oh I'd sue the hell out of them, they've just associated him with/as a pedophile through sheer laziness. Such a lack of due care could have potentially ruined H's career and life.

Plus he's not up to much nowadays and could probably do with the dough.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 28/11/2013 2:59:46 PM   
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What did the band know and when did they know it? They had motive to keep this stuff quiet for fame and fortune.


I was never a big fan but own the first album.

From what I've read over the last few years (2007 or so) he had distanced himself from the band different hotels, separate cars to gigs, interviews etc. I believe a couple of the guys have kids I'm not sure they'd turn a blind eye and put their kids at risk. With this level of crime as well I'm wondering if they were questioned to find out what they knew and if they had seen anything.

The more disturbing parts of the case the fact that an ex reported him to the police several years back because he told her he was a pedophile and she was ignored, was basically called a stalker. That one of the children involved in this case is rumored to be his own child and the fact that there have been whispers for years about some of his tastes were way way off. There are blogs, sites etc which looked like spiteful gossip dating back 3 -4 years that now are shocking.

The fact that Interpool have been mentioned in this as there fears that he has done this all over the world and there could be a lot more victims makes my blood freeze.

I really feel for H from Steps the level of abuse his got is awful poor guy and yes if I was mistakenly called a child rapist by a major news company because they were too lazy to check their pictures I'd sue as well.



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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 28/11/2013 6:02:06 PM   
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What did the band know and when did they know it? They had motive to keep this stuff quiet for fame and fortune.


I think the chances of the rest of Lostprophets not knowing what Watkins got up to were great. Think about it, pedophiles are a fucking devious bunch; they'll do anything to cover there tracks. Watkins was the lead singer of an inexplicably popular rock band, and with that comes the monetary resources to help facilitate his frankly depraved sexual urges. I think he did his level best to try keep that shit under wraps so as not to stop his flow of money, and I think it's plausible that his band members would never a million years dream that their lead singer and friend would do something as despicable as fuck kids. It's just pure luck (using that word loosely) that he fucked up enough to bring this shit to light.

They also split up a couple of months ago instead of looking for a new lead singer, so I guess they felt that the whole Lostprophets venture is now tainted. I mean, as bad as I feel for the victims of Watkins' crimes, I feel equally bad for his bandmates. There's every possibility that they're now stigmatised by the fact that they worked with Watkins, no matter how much in the dark they were about this.

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if I was mistakenly called a child rapist by a major news company because they were too lazy to check their pictures I'd sue as well.



And you would be right to do so. Seriously, it's such an egregious oversight for a showbiz gossip website. Any rational person would know that they got the wrong Watkins, but not everybody is rational.


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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 28/11/2013 6:15:47 PM   
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I mean, as bad as I feel for the victims of Watkins' crimes, I feel equally bad for his bandmates.


I dunno, I heard being raped was pretty unpleasant.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 28/11/2013 6:17:34 PM   
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Sorry, you're right and I honestly should think my post through before hitting OK.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 28/11/2013 9:00:14 PM   
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I can't help but feel that the hysteria stirred up by all these revelations post-Saville has played a small role in this horrible HORRIBLE incident occurring.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25017802

It doesn't take much to obtain a condemnatory attitude when it comes to pedophilia, but If anything, this kind of thing makes me more angry.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 30/11/2013 6:20:30 PM   
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What did the band know and when did they know it? They had motive to keep this stuff quiet for fame and fortune.


I was never a big fan but own the first album.

From what I've read over the last few years (2007 or so) he had distanced himself from the band different hotels, separate cars to gigs, interviews etc. I believe a couple of the guys have kids I'm not sure they'd turn a blind eye and put their kids at risk. With this level of crime as well I'm wondering if they were questioned to find out what they knew and if they had seen anything.

The more disturbing parts of the case the fact that an ex reported him to the police several years back because he told her he was a pedophile and she was ignored, was basically called a stalker. That one of the children involved in this case is rumored to be his own child and the fact that there have been whispers for years about some of his tastes were way way off. There are blogs, sites etc which looked like spiteful gossip dating back 3 -4 years that now are shocking.

The fact that Interpool have been mentioned in this as there fears that he has done this all over the world and there could be a lot more victims makes my blood freeze.

I really feel for H from Steps the level of abuse his got is awful poor guy and yes if I was mistakenly called a child rapist by a major news company because they were too lazy to check their pictures I'd sue as well.




Well said, Harley!

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 18/12/2013 2:56:41 PM   
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Lostprophets fans can breathe a huge sigh of relief - according to Ian Watkins and his lawyer he's not a paedophile after all. Phew.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 18/12/2013 4:22:55 PM   
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And yet he still gets 35 years- click

Cue lots of 'Free Ian Watkins' from idiots.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 18/12/2013 5:25:01 PM   
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Using text-speak, he said: "I'm going to put out a statement on the 18th just to say it was mega lolz.

"I do not know what everybody is getting so freaked out about."


This is probably one of the most awful things, that he does not know why people are upset that he was actively and aggressively involved in the abuse of a baby. That is one sick, sick puppy.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 18/12/2013 6:51:42 PM   
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What a completely fucked up case. What a bastard, and same goes to the two childrens mothers. Hell is too good for them

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 19/12/2013 12:10:31 AM   
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35 years is shocking. It should have been life. The two mothers have got relatively light sentences too, whilst they were undoubtedly manipulated they were also willing participants and the level of evil with which they placated into their innocent defenceless children's lives is beyond shocking.

I don't know whether anyone here has read the judicial notes which are widely available but I have. They give an insight into not only the sick, depraved acts Watkins and his accomplices committed, but also how they went about developing and hiding it. It's quite a frightening look at the incredibly tough job the authorities have on catching these kind of animals.

I won't post a link as they are disturbing, and not for the faint-hearted, but they are on the Huffington Post website if you'd like, for want of a better word, to look at them.

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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 19/12/2013 7:45:46 AM   
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While I'd happily lock the bastard up and throw away the key (I'd happily see him swinging to be honest but that's another debate) I would have expected life, purely on the sketchy information we have had on the case, let alone the full facts I don't think we'll ever know.
I was surprised at the low sentences for the mothers. Is the crime as bad? Offering up children to paedophiles? Your own children?
Without a fucking doubt in my opinion. His depravity is pretty much rock bottom, theirs is a rung lower.
14 years, probably out in half that? Doesn't quite seem fitting for someone prepared to offer her own 11 month old as a sex toy to someone she barely knew.
Anyway, it's done now, hope the kids find a loving home and remember nothing. Let's hope these 3 scumbags never see life outside prison.


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RE: Allegations of Jimmy Saville - 19/12/2013 8:09:13 AM   
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See, the two mothers getting much, much more lenient sentences than Watkins makes no sense to me. They were helping to facilitate Watkins' sexual urges and, in my mind, that's just as bad as them fucking or groping the kids themselves. It's absolutely mind-blowing to me.

Still, I guess Watkins will soon experience some horrific shit himself when he gets cornholed on a daily basis by a big, fat and bald neo-nazi on a daily basis.

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