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would you let a five year old watch the exorcist? - 15/9/2012 12:49:45 PM   
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Just had this conversation with someone on IGN - it came from an article about james cameron almost directing jurassic park, saying he'd have made it real nasty.. there was some tangent in the comments about how jurassic park wasn't scary, .

oldschool1987 • 2 days ago • parent −
Sprtacus554: iKR? I was watching Exorcist at 5.
Some people get upset too easily. Horror films doesn't scar you from a
young age unless you're totally weak minded and easily influenced.
My kid will be watching horror films as soon as I think hes at the age to
understand the difference between right and wrong. Don't want to raise a nancy lol.

I look forward to all the downvotes from the do gooders.
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maffew • 18 hours ago • parent
oldschool1987: No parent should show their kid the Exorcist at 5 years old. Not because it's scary,
just because it'd be totally wasted on them. What would the point have been? It's just bad parenting - don't
get me wrong, I'd show my kids the classic horror films, but I'd at least wait until they had a grasp on the
concepts within them - 5 year olds can barely feed themselves, let alone deal with the idea of demonic
possession. Aside from anything else, I doubt they'd be interested in it.. Most five year olds won't sit through
an episode of tellytubbies..
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oldschool1987 • 17 hours ago • parent
maffew: 5 year olds can barely feed themselves? You sure about that, my kid could feed himself from about 2.
Obviously not a parent. And yes they can grasp demonic possession, they know about ghosts and ghosts going i
nside people, that's how he sees it. If you want to raise a kid to be a nancy then that's your choice but dont call
me a bad parent. You obviously know nothing about children judging from your comment so I suggest you stop
giving me advice because you're wrong. My kid is emotionally strong and enjoys watching these movies with me.
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oldschool1987 • 2 days ago • parent
I've watched adult movies (not porn lol) since as long as I remember. My cousins parents were too over protective and
treated him like he couldn't handle anything mature. He went on drugs and died because. I blame the fact that he never
had the chance to toughen up and make his own choices. I turned out alright.
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maffew • 18 hours ago • parent
oldschool1987: 5 year olds should be mollycoddled, their brains aren't properly formed yet. they certainly shouldn't
be expected to handle anything 'mature' - that comes with maturity. I know that today things are different, what kids
get exposed to in video games is equal to or greater than the worst most horror flicks could throw at them, but I still
strongly believe that censoring what kids can watch up until a certain age is relatively important. By the way,
I'm speaking as a 26 year old with no kids and a love of violent and depraved movies, I'm just being objective.
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oldschool1987 • 17 hours ago • parent
maffew: That's your opinion but at 5 years old is when I child mind takes in most information so it's better to introduce
them to real vs fake at that age in my opinion. My kid now knows the difference and is emotionally strong. I was raised
the same way and I turned out ok. I will not have my child mollycoddled to just grow up emotionally soft.
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maffew • 14 hours ago • parent
oldschool1987: That's fine, but I don't think exposing a child to horror flicks hardens them emotionally... that just means
they've seen a bunch of nasty **** before they've hit their teens. In my experience, I wasn't deliberately exposed to things
in order to achieve anything, there was things I wanted to watch and i was given the option of watching them. I was terrified
of the end of Raiders of Lost Ark, didn't want to watch heads exploding, but I came to watching that scene on my own, I wasn't
sat down and told to watch it. As a result, I developed a healthy love of cinema and film making, started understanding what
was happening behind the camera, and that opened up a whole world of prosthetics and special effects, which meant
i could watch people getting ****ed up in movies and not think anything of it... I think it's quite an odd perspective to show
films like the exorcist or hellraiser to a child in the hope that it will harden them up - that's just weird... "Don't want my kid to
grow up all nancy-ish so I'll show him some people dying" By all means introduce kids to films, but don't use it to condition
them so they don't turn out wimps.. But hey, you're the parent..
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oldschool1987 • 11 hours ago • parent
maffew: Now you're making it look like I force my kid to watch these films. Way to put words in my mouth to make me look bad.
It started when I asked him to pick a movie, he picked a horror and I warned him it might be too scary and if it scares you too
much I'll turn it off. I also made sure he understood none of it is real and it's all pretend. He watched it and enjoyed it, now I
see he can handle this movies. I wouldn't let him watch one by himself, I'm always there with him. I wouldn't stop my kid watching
a film because I'm not over protective and mollycoddling. You can believe what you want but starting these from a young age
I believe can make them handle more growing up, it worked for me. You have no right to judge me dude, you're not even a parent. I
wouldn't dare tell someone how to raise their kid, it's rude.
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maffew • 2 minutes ago • parent
oldschool1987: I'm not telling you how to raise your kid, I'm just questioning how you are. I wasn't referring to you having your kids
watch them, I was referring to another post, someone saying their irish dad didn't want them growing up soft so he had them watch
nasty films.. We just have differing opinions.. where would you draw the line? If he didn't flinch during the brutal murder with a fire
extinguisher, or indeed the six minute rape in Irreversible, would that be alright too? It's not too far from the creepy torture and
molestation that happens in Texas Chainsaw Massacre.. why not whack that in to sunday night viewing? What about Salo: 120
Days of Sodom? If he plucked that out of the collection would that be ok? I just think, at the end of the day, no five year doesn't
need to see a 12 year old girl masturbating with a crucifix. It's not beneficial in any way. Children can learn a lot from films, life morals,
right and wrong, mortality, where pets go when they die, but there are some things they don't need to see yet..

As you can see, I don't think you should show a five year old the exorcist. Thoughts?

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 15/9/2012 1:02:18 PM   
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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 15/9/2012 1:33:03 PM   
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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 15/9/2012 4:53:59 PM   
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Anyone who shows their five-year old The Exorcist is not only a bad parent but also an enourmous cunt. A young girl screaming "let Jesus fuck you!" while being forcibly penetrated with a crucifix? Of course it's not fucking suitable, regardless of whether or not they 'understand' what's happening in the scene.

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 15/9/2012 5:16:38 PM   
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If I hadn't just read that discussion above I'd wonder why this question was even being asked. Jesus H.

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 15/9/2012 5:26:53 PM   
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Hell no you wouldn't show a 5-year old The Exorcist. Personally, I didn't see my first 15 until I was about 13 or so, and even then it was at a sleepover without my parents' knowledge, and the 15 in question was so ludicrously silly there's no way it could have warped me. For me and a lot of other children (in my experience), it's not about how much gore, tits etc. is shown, it's all about the intensity. For that reason I wouldn't mind a 10-year old asking to watch something like 300 or Deep Blue Sea or something, but things such as The Exorcist, Texas Chainsaw Massacre or something like that, even if they're less gory, would have to wait till they're older.

But a 5-year old? Even LOTR is a stretch at that age!

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 15/9/2012 6:05:23 PM   
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More to the point if you feel the need to ask, you clearly are a bellend.

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 15/9/2012 6:11:05 PM   
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No way is the exorcist a suitable film for a five year old. I remember watching A Nightmare on Elm Street when i was about ten and had nightmares myself about Freddy being at the end of my bed for a good two weeks afterwards. Watching it again ten years later I was surprised about how bad the effects were as I remember them being really realistic and believe my more innocent ten year old eyes saw them as such.

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 15/9/2012 8:07:05 PM   
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It started when I asked him to pick a movie, he picked a horror and I warned him it might be too scary and if it scares you too
much I'll turn it off.


This is the bit I find curious. My oldest is four and recently he wanted to watch a film so I gathered up a few U & PG rated DVDs that I thought he might find interesting. He glanced at them but instead his attention was drawn to Deliverance. I explained to him that it was only for older and bigger boys and he could only watch stuff rated U and any stuff rated PG had to be cleared with me first. He understands this and has no problem with it as it's simply another rule.

The notion of saying "well, you could watch Deliverance but it might be a little scary for you so I'll watch it with you" is simply mind-boggling. Yeah, kids react differently to different things but why would you inflict something potentially harmful on them in the hopes of "toughening them up"? Ludicrous.

Like I said my oldest boy's four and while he loves the Toy Story films there are still bits he hides his eyes from. I showed him ROTJ and when the Rancor appeared he actually hid behind a door. And that's a U. He found it scarier than Ghostbusters, which is his current favourite, mainly because of the song and the "marsh-melon man". He refuses to watch GB2 because it's too scary. He has a point.

The point which seems to have eluded the owner of the quote is that if a young boy singles out a DVD like Deliverance, Saw, or The Exorcist, it's because he is attracted or intrigued by the cover, regardless of rating, not because he's thinking "ooh, this is supposed to be the director's best work".

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 15/9/2012 8:31:31 PM   
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^ that's good parenting, right there.

Ghostbusters 2 is a bit too scary for youngsters, we all know which part I mean.....

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 15/9/2012 9:23:33 PM   
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Ghostbusters 2 is a bit too scary for youngsters, we all know which part I mean.....


My son was certainly not happy with Viggo, or the spiked heads. But it was the scene where Yanosh kidnaps Oscar when he collapsed in a heap of tears. Probably something to do with his youngest brother being roughly the same age.

But the first film he's fine with. He finds the "pink ghost" a little scary, as well as the "evil cats". Loves Mr Staypuft and finds him hilarious, in fact he frequently impersonates him. Would just like to point out that I mute out the "shits" and we skip the blowjob scene.

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 15/9/2012 9:30:19 PM   
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Reading these posts reminds me of all the fucked up shit my dad allowed me to watch as a kid. The Thing, The Terminator, Robocop, Alien, Aliens, etc.

My dad was either really cool or completely negligent. I am not sure which.

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 15/9/2012 9:39:56 PM   
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^ that's good parenting, right there.

Ghostbusters 2 is a bit too scary for youngsters, we all know which part I mean.....


When I was little, I was terrified of the scene when the Titanic arrives. All the other scenes were fine, but that idea gave me nightmares (I read a lot about the Mummy's curse on the Titanic, so I thought that if the Titanic arrived with the Mummy on board we were all screwed).

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 15/9/2012 9:42:00 PM   
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I was thinking of the heads on spikes scene but apparently there are many bits of Ghostbusters 2 that are too scary for kids

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 15/9/2012 9:50:29 PM   
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I was thinking of the heads on spikes scene but apparently there are many bits of Ghostbusters 2 that are too scary for kids


Heads on spikes - no big deal. Possibility of a Mummy's curse on a resurrected ghost ship - nightmare inducing.


It's weird what scares you as a kid though - A Close Shave terrified me.

My parents were pretty good at deciding on what we could watch, though a lot of it depends on the child in question.

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 15/9/2012 10:02:44 PM   
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I was thinking of the heads on spikes scene but apparently there are many bits of Ghostbusters 2 that are too scary for kids


Heads on spikes - no big deal. Possibility of a Mummy's curse on a resurrected ghost ship - nightmare inducing.


Yeah, it's different for everyone. I was 13 when I first saw Ghostbusters 2 so none of it scared me

I don't remember watching many horror films when I was a kid, except A Nightmare On Elm Street when I was 10. It scared the shit out of me and I didn't watch horror films for a few years after that.


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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 16/9/2012 12:02:39 AM   
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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 16/9/2012 10:06:16 AM   
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Anyone who lets a 5 year old watch The Exorcist is completely irresponsible.

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 16/9/2012 10:26:09 AM   
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good - I just wanted to make sure I wasn't being 'over protective' or something....

OK, so what was the first really scary film you saw and when?

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 16/9/2012 11:00:22 AM   
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good - I just wanted to make sure I wasn't being 'over protective' or something....

OK, so what was the first really scary film you saw and when?


The first one that properly scared me was the Night on Bald Mountain segment of Fantasia when I was young. In terms of the first "proper" horror film to keep me up all night, that had to wait till I saw the BBC Woman in Black.

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 16/9/2012 2:13:59 PM   
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The Evil Dead I think was the first proper horror I saw. I was about 12, and it creeped me out a lot. I was probably still too young. Not long after that I saw The Sixth Sense, which, even though it isn't technically a horror, scared the CRAP out of me. I was seriously frightened by that movie. I think I was about 14 when I first saw The Exorcist. Scared me then and still scares me today

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 16/9/2012 11:22:46 PM   
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Glad I was not the only one.


I was a pussy growing up. Watching violent action films was fine, though


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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 17/9/2012 1:09:10 AM   
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Glad I was not the only one.


I was a pussy growing up. Watching violent action films was fine, though



I'm on that boat too I could watch movies like The Terminator or Predator, or even films like Goodfellas (which I did when I was 9) but I also got the living hell scared out of me by Stigmata at the same age! I saw it again recently, and it's honestly pretty terrible

And to answer the overall question, there is no way in hell I'd let a five year old watch The Exorcist!

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 17/9/2012 2:18:22 AM   
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Oh yeah, Predator and Terminator were fine. Something like Poltergeist scared me because it was ghosts and I foolishly believed in them at that age. Cyborgs and Rasta-aliens, not so much. Oddly, though, Ghostbusters never scared me, maybe because it was funny. I must have shat myself at the library ghost the first time though, but I can't remember. If you tried to get my to watch Freddy films (after seeing the first) or Jason films, you had no chance.

And this scared me too without having seen the film, I saw a fill page ad for it in the News of the World and it scared the crap out of me (my gran read the NOTW in the 80s....) -



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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 17/9/2012 3:35:58 AM   
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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 17/9/2012 7:08:30 AM   
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I can't read what vad3r has posted but I bet you it is contrary to what others have said so far......

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 17/9/2012 7:31:32 AM   
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In the 80's me and my mates had a little Friday film club where the person whose parents house we were round would pick the film and we went through a phase of watching loads of horrors (Evil Dead, Driller Killer, Shivers, Phantasm, Last House on the Left, Texas Chainsaw etc) and it was Texas Chainsaw that affected me most (but that was probably because the wind blew an ornament off the shelf in the bathroom mid way through the film and we all crapped ourselves ). I think it was more the supernatural ones that really scared me (Poltergeist) as they seemed more believable..

As for kids, my sister-in-laws sister let my niece watch Alien when she was 11 and hadn't realised that her brother (my nephew - 5 at the time) had come downstairs for a drink and was stood in the doorway crying. But then my sister-in-laws sister is a screwed up bitch for a whole variety of other reasons and this made me hate her that bit more.....

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RE: would you a five year old the exorcist? - 17/9/2012 8:16:49 AM   
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Poltergeist. Think I was about eight or nine. I watched it with my family, so I felt safe. But the residual impact on me as a budding film and horror fan was immense. Especially when it came to bedtime.

To this day it's one of my top five films and I still find it genuinely chilling. I may have watched other horrors since that were more violent, gory and upsetting but this one still gets right under my skin, and apparently even more so now that I'm a parent, so I'm experiencing the nostalgic night-terrors of my childhood but also feeling the more realistic horror of the thought of losing one of my own children.

Back on the orange forum I wrote a piece about the film and why I love it but I guess all that stuff's gone for good, nay?

Anyway, not long after that the Omen trilogy was being shown on ITV and my parents recorded the first one and vetted it to see if it was suitable. They said no and much to my annoyance taped over it with Dr No. However, this being VHS when the tape was rewound to re-record from the start it would never record quite from the very start, so for ages I had this tape with the opening credits for The Omen at the beginning, plus a few shots of Gregory Peck driving, before Bond kicked in. I watched and re-watched those creepy opening credits endlessly, as if I was being afforded a dangerous glimpse into a forbidden yet scarily exciting world.

Something similar had actually happened years before with Salem's Lot, which my sister was allowed to watch and I was not; in fact I was caught many times trying to sneak into the living room and hide behind the sofa to watch it - must've been about six or seven. Again my mum had taped it but my sister had subsequently taped over it with various performances from Top Of The Pops. Her recording skills were not great and purely by chance the footage of Ralphie Glick floating at his brother's windows had survived amidst the pop, in fact I think it was bookended by Amazulu and Baltimore (anyone remember them?). Again, I would watch that sequence as if mesmerised, heart pounding, palms sweating. What makes me smile about it now is that it was like I had my own personal 'lost footage' tapes before it became trendy. And we all know that stuff is much scarier on VHS casettes.

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RE: would you let a five year old watch the exorcist? - 17/9/2012 10:21:14 AM   
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someone is mulling over showing 'raiders' to their 7 year old-

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RE: would you let a five year old watch the exorcist? - 17/9/2012 1:53:06 PM   
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I agree, one of my earliest horror film memories is watching Poltergeist, I recall being utterly terrified and enthralled at the same time. The scene where the guy starts picking at his face in the bathroom until he is literally ripping off half of it was the part that scared me the most. I didn't watch this until I was around 10 or 11 years old.

I am now a parent of 3 kids aged 16, 14 and 12 and never in my wildest dreams would have allowed any of them to watch a movie like that at age 5.

There is no child of that age that is mentally prepared for a film like that and any parent who thinks that it is okay to watch is not mentally prepared to raise children. However when a child does reach a certain age I do feel that you can decide what films are suited to their characters and use the age rating for each movie as more of a guide rather than the rule.

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