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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 26/7/2013 3:47:35 PM   
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Wolverine opening estimate?

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 27/7/2013 12:39:29 PM   
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the guardian thinks Hollywood has lost the plot-

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/jul/26/blockbuster-film-industry-fan-base-box-office

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 27/7/2013 1:18:12 PM   
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the guardian thinks Hollywood has lost the plot-

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/jul/26/blockbuster-film-industry-fan-base-box-office



Here's where I think they've been going wrong, and this all guesswork so take it with an industrial sized vat of salt.

In effort to stave off the effects of the recession, the studios have been concentrating on materials which they think have built in audiences. This means reboots, reboots of reboots, comic book movies, remakes, sequels and reboots of reboots of reboots. Basically, completely unoriginal films, most of which are mega budgeted tent pole flicks films with whizz bang CGI and MASSIVE BOOM BOOM EXPLODEY BITS!!!!

Now, there's nothing inherently wrong with the kind of films I just described, but they are mostly poorly thought out dross which insults the intelligence of their audiences. People are turning their backs on some of these films because studios are not catering to those who want something new and something intelligent.

Look at Inception for example. Not exactly the most original film in the world, and not even the most perfect, but it wasn't based on pre-existing material and was made by a bloke who thinks you're as intelligent as he is. That film made a metric shit-ton of money. There's is absolutely no excuse to make something as dumb and asinine as some of the dreck that's been hogging cinemas over the last few months. There is a market for smart adult cinema. Nolan proved that with Inception and so did Ridley Scott with Prometheus.


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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 27/7/2013 1:29:15 PM   
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There is a market for smart adult cinema. Nolan proved that with Inception and so did Ridley Scott with Prometheus.



Inception yes, but Prometheus was not smart film-making at all: utterly boring with little to no intelligence in it.



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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 27/7/2013 1:31:48 PM   
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Inception yes, but Prometheus was not smart film-making at all. Utterly boring with little to no intelligence in it.


Well, I think it was trying to tackle lofty themes but it wasn't entirely successful. I think Scott's intentions were admirable but it was let down by plot holes, silly contrivances and Damon Lindelof.

At they were aiming for something higher than just being an ATM for Fox.

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 27/7/2013 1:37:29 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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Inception yes, but Prometheus was not smart film-making at all. Utterly boring with little to no intelligence in it.


Well, I think it was trying to tackle lofty themes but it wasn't entirely successful. I think Scott's intentions were admirable but it was let down by plot holes, silly contrivances and Damon Lindelof.


Trying, yes very trying indeed

But I see your meaning. However sometimes, people just want crash, bang, thank you, ma'am. I was late to the party with this one, but I recently saw Dredd and as silly as it is, it was exceedingly entertaining.

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 27/7/2013 2:16:55 PM   
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'wolverine' on course for $63mil opener-

http://variety.com/2013/film/news/the-wolverine-mutates-into-estimated-63-million-weekend-1200568726/

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 28/7/2013 12:05:37 AM   
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Fast And Furious 6 has scored Universal's biggest ever opening in China http://www.deadline.com/2013/07/fast-6-scores-universals-biggest-china-opening/

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 28/7/2013 11:16:36 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

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There is a market for smart adult cinema. Nolan proved that with Inception and so did Ridley Scott with Prometheus.



Inception yes, but Prometheus was not smart film-making at all: utterly boring with little to no intelligence in it.



This thread is about box-office discussion, not slagging off other films. Do that shit somewhere else.


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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 28/7/2013 1:32:24 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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There is a market for smart adult cinema. Nolan proved that with Inception and so did Ridley Scott with Prometheus.



Inception yes, but Prometheus was not smart film-making at all: utterly boring with little to no intelligence in it.



This thread is about box-office discussion, not slagging off other films. Do that shit somewhere else.



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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 28/7/2013 1:46:54 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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quote:

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There is a market for smart adult cinema. Nolan proved that with Inception and so did Ridley Scott with Prometheus.



Inception yes, but Prometheus was not smart film-making at all: utterly boring with little to no intelligence in it.



This thread is about box-office discussion, not slagging off other films. Do that shit somewhere else.



Although domestically in the US is was deemed to have underperformed with a $126m box office on a $130m budget. Admittedly it did do ok internationally but with a $403m overall box office (including US domestic) it fell over $200m under expectations.

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 28/7/2013 2:08:02 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ref

quote:

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There is a market for smart adult cinema. Nolan proved that with Inception and so did Ridley Scott with Prometheus.



Inception yes, but Prometheus was not smart film-making at all: utterly boring with little to no intelligence in it.



This thread is about box-office discussion, not slagging off other films. Do that shit somewhere else.



Don't have a coronary, darling.



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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 28/7/2013 2:16:06 PM   
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FFS, DC - lighten up, I was only joking. Anyway, Box Office Numbers...yey!

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 29/7/2013 10:26:02 AM   
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'wolverine' adjusted opening weekend-

http://www.deadline.com/2013/07/wolverine-23m-friday-61m-weekend/

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 31/7/2013 2:33:24 PM   
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US/china deal starting to sour?-


http://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/jul/30/hollywood-studios-owed-china

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 1/8/2013 1:09:44 PM   
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but 'pacific''s opening in china may lead to a sequel after all.

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 2/8/2013 10:30:14 AM   
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deadline wonders why it so hard to start new franchises-

http://www.deadline.com/2013/08/fleming-rants-on-why-studios-cant-launch-franchises-anymore-leaving-us-with-retreads-like-the-mummy/


the trick to launching a franchise-keep it at a medium level, not $200mil+ budget for the opening ep.

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 3/8/2013 12:41:24 PM   
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'2 guns' wins slow weekend-

http://www.deadline.com/2013/08/smurftastic-start-sequel-opens-to-modest-5-6m-domestic-but-big-international-hopes/

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 5/8/2013 2:02:04 PM   
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Pacific Rim almost out of the US top ten with less than 100mil. Doesn't bode well for a sequel.

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 5/8/2013 5:17:08 PM   
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I enjoyed Pacific Rim but dont really care if it gets a sequel.The story is pretty self contained and is better suited as a one off.Im pretty sick of this trend of studios need to franchise everything anyway.



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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 6/8/2013 2:00:21 PM   
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I wonder whether i will find Pacific Rim as entertaining as Battleship, they almost look a bit similar.

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 8/8/2013 10:33:02 AM   
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as 'lone ranger' tanks, deadline wonders what makes a flop-

http://www.deadline.com/2013/08/isnt-it-time-to-take-waterworld-off-the-all-time-flop-list/

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 8/8/2013 12:21:19 PM   
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I wonder whether i will find Pacific Rim as entertaining as Battleship, they almost look a bit similar.


I certainly hope not.

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 8/8/2013 7:20:23 PM   
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I meant mainly with regard to the fx and large scale carnage, i think i will enjoy it a lot, whether I'll enjoy it as much as Battleship remains to be seen!

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 10/8/2013 2:07:08 PM   
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'planes' v 'elysium' this weekend-

http://variety.com/2013/film/news/box-office-elysium-opens-to-1-8-million-thursday-night-1200576224/

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 12/8/2013 10:29:44 AM   
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'elysium' no.1-

http://www.deadline.com/2013/08/were-the-millers-opens-to-1-7m-late-shows/

still a good summer despite flops-

http://variety.com/2013/film/news/summer-box-office-looks-to-break-record-despite-flops-1200576830/

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 14/8/2013 10:31:28 AM   
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ew is positive about this summer's movies too-

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/08/13/summer-blockbusters-are-now-good-movies/

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 16/8/2013 2:12:43 PM   
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i take it summer '13 is pretty much done, with no surprises at the box office coming up to labour weekend in the US?

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 16/8/2013 2:45:58 PM   
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be interesting to see what Star Trek, Superman and Wolverine make in last stop Japan (esp Star Trek with the Cumberbatch mania over there)

some recent Japan BO:
Tron 2 - 25m
Rise of the Apes - 30m
MI4 - 69m
Prometheus - 21m
TASM - 39m
TDKR - 24m
Resident Evil 5 - 48m
Dark Shadows - 27m
Avengers - 45m
IM3 - 25m

STID currently at 450m ww (so could end up about 475m), MOS at 650m (so maybe 675m), Wolverine at 335m (so may equal previous Wolverine 375m yet)

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RE: 2013 Box Office Estimates - 16/8/2013 6:46:49 PM   
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some recent Japan BO:
Resident Evil 5 - 48m
Avengers - 45m



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