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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 12:49:08 PM   
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 I didn't expect this to sadden me as much as it did as I wasn't his biggest fan, but that is a really sad way to go and the man himself did occasionally some very fun and all round great films. Top Gun, Man on Fire and True Romance are excellent in their own ways, and Beat the Devil is the most fun 7 minutes out there.

My condolences with his family.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 12:54:51 PM   
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 Very sad. Always had a soft spot for Scott's movies. Always watchable, hell I even like Days of Thunder.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 1:03:14 PM   
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 Utterly gobsmacked to find this out. Never the thing you expect to hear first on a Monday morning.

Wasn't a massive fan of all his work but he certainly never made a boring film in his time. Crimson Tide is probably still my favourite of his.

The fact that it appears to be suicide makes it worse, gutted.

Rest in peace Tony....

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 2:26:26 PM   
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I was talking to a colleague earlier about it and, like many others no doubt, we were both of the opinion that his films were generally pretty rubbish. But if you look at the list on IMDB, actually the good and watchable films far outweigh the bad ones (and please note I am including Top Gun in the bad – I personally find it excruciating to watch, and not just cos of Tom Cruise).

Crimson Tide and True Romance are both great and certified classics (despite the VERY obvious and out of place Tarantino schtick shoe-horned in to both scripts), but my favourite Tony film has to be Spy Game – I’ve always thought that that was an under rated gem, and still do.


Yeah, it's possibly easy to scoff at his output in comparisson to Ridley's say, but I think they've each made their share of great and not so great films.

Looking at Tony's list, it surprised me that I haven't seen as many as I thought, but he made some real genre classics and as far as the high concept, Simpson/Bruckheimer stuff goes, many a lesser action director could learn a lot from him. Outside of that kind of thing, as has already been mentioned, True Romance and Man on Fire are great too.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 2:35:36 PM   
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 What is interesting is that everyone has a different Tony Scott film they say, "I have a soft spot for...". It shows that, actually, people really liked his films, even if it was uncool to like them.




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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 3:17:34 PM   
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Just wanted to say that i was totally shocked when i heard the news.

This is so sad.

RIP Tony. My condolences to his family and friends.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 3:30:34 PM   
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This is awful, and it's brought home even more because he's the same age as my colleague's husband

I loved Crimson Tide, it's one of my favourite thrillers (probably IS my favourite actually), and IMHO Enemy of the State is still the best all round Will Smith vehicle so far.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 3:32:01 PM   
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What is interesting is that everyone has a different Tony Scott film they say, "I have a soft spot for...". It shows that, actually, people really liked his films, even if it was uncool to like them.

Or, alternatively, it could also show just how generic his movies actually were and that his filmography is littered with the occasional mediocre yet affable genre piece that people think "aren't too bad" or are "a bit of harmless fun".

I'm not saying which is right but let us be careful of not falling into the usual trap of re-writing a legacy in an overly positive fashion just because somebody has died young or in tragic circumstances.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 3:36:55 PM   
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For the record, I like The Last Boy Scout and Crimson Tide. Neither are anything approaching classics (as I believe I heard Chris Hewitt suggest on the radio this morning) but the former is goofy action fun and the latter is a polished and satisfying thriller.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 3:38:42 PM   
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What is interesting is that everyone has a different Tony Scott film they say, "I have a soft spot for...". It shows that, actually, people really liked his films, even if it was uncool to like them.

Or, alternatively, it could also show just how generic his movies actually were and that his filmography is littered with the occasional mediocre yet affable genre piece that people think "aren't too bad" or are "a bit of harmless fun".

I'm not saying which is right but let us be careful of not falling into the usual trap of re-writing a legacy in an overly positive fashion just because somebody has died young or in tragic circumstances.


Agreed - whilst I defended the man's films, I was still very careful to use the term "watchable", because most of his catalogue is just that.

True Romance, Crimson Tide and Spy Game are GREAT films, though.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 3:40:37 PM   
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 Absolutely. I don't think his films are brilliant. I do enjoy most of them for what they are.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 3:55:45 PM   
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 He has made his fair share of utter dross, but he also pulled some great stuff out of the bag. Man on Fire is a brilliant film IMHO.

And De Ja Vu and Unstoppable are two of the most immensely entertaining mainstream flicks to come out in the last ten years. Top Gun, which is probably the one film that comes to people's mind when his name is mentioned, is dumb beyond belief, but it's fun and has a certain kitschy appeal to it.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 4:04:14 PM   
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 Man on Fire is fantastic and Deja Vu is very watchable. Unstoppable was not great, though.

I still can't get my head around this. 

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 4:19:41 PM   
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 Dreadful news, whilst he never got the critical acclaim of his brother, he did make some of the most thrilling mainstream action films of the last thirty years that many of us love; he will be missed.

RIP Tony Scott.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 4:39:23 PM   
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Gutted, loved the guy's films personally.

The likes of Top Gun, Beverly Hills Cop II, Days of Thunder & The Last Boy Scout formed a real chunk of my childhood action movie obsession. The subsequant likes of Crimson Tide, Enemy of the State, Spy Game, Man On Fire, Deja Vu & Unstoppable all rocked my socks off as well.

What can I say, massive fan of the guy's testosterone fuelled quick cutting style, for my money far more consistant with his output than his brother.

So sad it should all end this way as well, thoughts are with his family.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 5:07:34 PM   
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Poor guy.

Poor Ridley.

I like Top Gun.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 5:13:05 PM   
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Man on Fire is fantastic and Deja Vu is very watchable. Unstoppable was not great, though.

I still can't get my head around this. 


I enjoyed Unstoppable far more than I expected to given the subject matter (runaway train? ). Found it to be a well-shot, well-paced thriller with some solid performances. In fact, thinking about it, it's hard to imagine many other directors being able to make a film like that as tense as it was.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 5:18:54 PM   
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 Really sad news. Seemed like a top dude.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 5:37:39 PM   
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Reports coming in that he had been diagnosed with "inoperable brain cancer" according to ABC News: http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/top-gun-director-tony-scott-inoprable-brain-cancer/story?id=17039434#.UDJnqZpYvM9

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 7:48:43 PM   
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 Very very sad to hear about this.The Last Boy Scout is one of my favourite action films and Crimson Tide is a favourite as well.If it is indeed true that he had inoperable brain cancer then it is hard to imagine how one would react to such news so we shouldnt judge him for what he did.

RIP Mr Scott.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 9:33:34 PM   
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 Gutted by this news. Love alot of his films.

RIP Tony

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 9:40:55 PM   
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Man on Fire is fantastic and Deja Vu is very watchable. Unstoppable was not great, though.

I still can't get my head around this. 



I think they should read this at his funeral.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 20/8/2012 10:46:19 PM   
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 It would appear the inoperable brain cancer has now been confirmed.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 21/8/2012 9:05:38 AM   
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It would appear the inoperable brain cancer has now been confirmed.


Indeed, poor guy... 2 young sons left behing too. He must have been at his wits end to make that decision.

Tragic stuff.

EDIT: actually it sounds like he may not have been ill at all.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19322540



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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 21/8/2012 3:18:35 PM   
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EDIT: actually it sounds like he may not have been ill at all.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19322540





Well he was certainly very troubled to commit sucide so you could argue he was mentally ill poor soul. My heart goes out to anyone who is that troubled and their loved ones. Could it not be possible he did have inoperable brain cancer but didn`t tell his family? Lots of people saw it happen and it makes you wonder couldn`t someone have pulled over and stopped him? Horrible for everyone involved.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 21/8/2012 5:14:54 PM   
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 It is strange that they confirmed last night and now they unconfirm?

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 21/8/2012 5:21:55 PM   
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What is interesting is that everyone has a different Tony Scott film they say, "I have a soft spot for...". It shows that, actually, people really liked his films, even if it was uncool to like them.

Or, alternatively, it could also show just how generic his movies actually were and that his filmography is littered with the occasional mediocre yet affable genre piece that people think "aren't too bad" or are "a bit of harmless fun".



No, I think Homer nailed it.

No-one's trying to re-write his legacy, many people have genuine affection and admiration for some of his better films. So what?

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 21/8/2012 5:27:56 PM   
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What is interesting is that everyone has a different Tony Scott film they say, "I have a soft spot for...". It shows that, actually, people really liked his films, even if it was uncool to like them.

Or, alternatively, it could also show just how generic his movies actually were and that his filmography is littered with the occasional mediocre yet affable genre piece that people think "aren't too bad" or are "a bit of harmless fun".



No, I think Homer nailed it.



Yeah, I really like The Last Boy Scout, Crimson Tide, Enemy of the State and True Romance, rather than just thinking they 'aren't too bad'. On the contrary, I think they are very good. He made some shit and I don't think he was the greatest director in the world or even a great one at all but those films I mentioned I personally enjoy. And only one of them you can accuse 'nostalgia' being the reason for my doing so......


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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 21/8/2012 5:45:32 PM   
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It is strange that they confirmed last night and now they unconfirm?


I guess it's just rumours and educated guesses more than anything at the moment. Sad really as I can only imagine how devasting his death is for the family full stop, without the pressure of confirming/denying/fending off the media speculation.

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RE: Tony Scott dies. - 8/9/2012 10:39:37 PM   
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