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RE: European football - 20/2/2013 9:46:19 PM   
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AC...wait..Portsmouth 2- 0 Barcelona

Wow.


Ha hope Barca get dumped on their arses.


Yeah same here, and rightly too for having the nerve to wear those atrocious strips.

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RE: European football - 20/2/2013 10:05:51 PM   
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Barcelona plan A = pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass passzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Failure of plan A = activation of plan B

Barcelona plan B = give ball to Messi

Failure of plan B = Barcelona Loss

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RE: European football - 21/2/2013 9:52:51 AM   
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Great performance from Milan last night...completely stifled Barca and played some really nice stuff themselves.

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RE: European football - 21/2/2013 10:05:15 AM   
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Yeah. I think all of us who watch Spanish football have at one point or another said that Barca could really be in trouble when they met a good team in Europe.

To be quite honest, I wasn't thinking that AC would be that team, I thought it would be one that had more sharp passing, but they played a great game and deserved their victory. Its not over though.

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RE: European football - 21/2/2013 10:18:49 AM   
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Yeah. I think all of us who watch Spanish football have at one point or another said that Barca could really be in trouble when they met a good team in Europe.

To be quite honest, I wasn't thinking that AC would be that team, I thought it would be one that had more sharp passing, but they played a great game and deserved their victory. Its not over though.

Definitely not over but it's great to see a team have a gameplan and not roll over like every team in La Liga

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RE: European football - 21/2/2013 10:45:24 AM   
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Off the top of my head I cant honestly think of one major chance Barca had last night.
Milans gameplan was solid,just like Chelsea last year.

off topic:But I wish Skysports would focus on what is going on-on the pitch rather than searching out beauties in the crowd.
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RE: European football - 21/2/2013 11:32:52 AM   
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Definitely not over but it's great to see a team have a gameplan and not roll over like every team in La Liga


that's slightly unfair. Several teams in La Liga have given Barca trouble using a very similar gameplan, not just this year, but in previous years. The reason they inevitably capitulate over 90 mins is that they don't have the forward talent to take advantage (unlike Milan) and the whole thing goes to pot if you do concede.

Milan's performance last night was textbook way to play Barca - looking forward to the return leg now!

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RE: European football - 21/2/2013 2:57:19 PM   
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Off the top of my head I cant honestly think of one major chance Barca had last night.
Milans gameplan was solid,just like Chelsea last year.

off topic:But I wish Skysports would focus on what is going on-on the pitch rather than searching out beauties in the crowd.
(I'm going to be alone on this,unsurprisingly)


Milan's gameplay was much better than Chelsea's, which wasn't all that great. If you remember, Barca had about 7-8 clear cut chances over those two legs and had they been as clinical as they usually are, Chelsea's game plan wouldn't have been seen as half as smart.

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RE: European football - 21/2/2013 3:02:02 PM   
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Definitely not over but it's great to see a team have a gameplan and not roll over like every team in La Liga


that's slightly unfair. Several teams in La Liga have given Barca trouble using a very similar gameplan, not just this year, but in previous years. The reason they inevitably capitulate over 90 mins is that they don't have the forward talent to take advantage (unlike Milan) and the whole thing goes to pot if you do concede.

Milan's performance last night was textbook way to play Barca - looking forward to the return leg now!

Fair point. Was a bit of a generalisation of the rest of the Spanish league. But there are ways to play Barca and Milan did it brilliantly last night.

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RE: European football - 21/2/2013 5:47:53 PM   
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Off the top of my head I cant honestly think of one major chance Barca had last night.
Milans gameplan was solid,just like Chelsea last year.

off topic:But I wish Skysports would focus on what is going on-on the pitch rather than searching out beauties in the crowd.
(I'm going to be alone on this,unsurprisingly)


Milan's gameplay was much better than Chelsea's, which wasn't all that great. If you remember, Barca had about 7-8 clear cut chances over those two legs and had they been as clinical as they usually are, Chelsea's game plan wouldn't have been seen as half as smart.

Yep,its all flooding back.Chelsea were just....lucky.

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RE: European football - 23/2/2013 12:40:00 AM   
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Definitely not over but it's great to see a team have a gameplan and not roll over like every team in La Liga


that's slightly unfair. Several teams in La Liga have given Barca trouble using a very similar gameplan, not just this year, but in previous years. The reason they inevitably capitulate over 90 mins is that they don't have the forward talent to take advantage (unlike Milan) and the whole thing goes to pot if you do concede.

Milan's performance last night was textbook way to play Barca - looking forward to the return leg now!


Dont agree with that statement, Barca have scored I believe 114 goals or so this season so they aren't exactly rubbish in front of goal. Milan played very well indeed and executed their gameplan perfectly. On top of that, it was the poorest display from Barcelona I have seen in a long time, they were tired, had no pace about their play, kept losing posession and Xavi and Messi in particular had an off night. I also believe they were missing Vilanova's guidance from the touchline though that can't be helped just now with him undergoing chemotherapy. I can't see them playing that badly again back home, however I do think they have an almighty task to keep Milan from scoring at the other end, which I have said all season is something Barcelona didn't address last summer, when they couldn't get Javi Martinez (how good a signing would that have been for them the way he completely (along with Schweinsteiger) negated Arsenal's midfield the other night and started the attacking play for them. Instead Barca went half-hearted and got Song, who is a decent enough midfielder, but no way a defender. I think they will win at home, but concede with the score being 3 - 1, which means their elimination.

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RE: European football - 23/2/2013 7:56:02 AM   
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Definitely not over but it's great to see a team have a gameplan and not roll over like every team in La Liga


that's slightly unfair. Several teams in La Liga have given Barca trouble using a very similar gameplan, not just this year, but in previous years. The reason they inevitably capitulate over 90 mins is that they don't have the forward talent to take advantage (unlike Milan) and the whole thing goes to pot if you do concede.

Milan's performance last night was textbook way to play Barca - looking forward to the return leg now!


Dont agree with that statement, Barca have scored I believe 114 goals or so this season so they aren't exactly rubbish in front of goal.


No, I meant Barca's opposition don't have the forward talent to take advantage. I agree Barca have a modicum of talent up front


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RE: European football - 23/2/2013 6:02:11 PM   
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Ah lol sorry bout that, got the wrong end of the stick there!

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RE: European football - 26/2/2013 9:35:01 PM   
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Madrid obliterating Barca.

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RE: European football - 27/2/2013 8:59:28 AM   
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A much stronger and faster Madrid tanked Barca, who again struggled to get shots on goal. Ronaldo got 2 goals and the headlines, but Di Maria was unbelievably good. Could bode badly for Man Utd fans!


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RE: European football - 27/2/2013 11:00:06 AM   
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Or could bode well when they turn up at Old Trafford knackered!

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RE: European football - 27/2/2013 11:36:10 AM   
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Knackered? can't see it, somehow! interesting to see who is rested this weekend for La Liga El Clasico, which is oddly going to be a bit of a dead rubber ahead of the two more important CL clashes next week.

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RE: European football - 27/2/2013 11:42:16 AM   
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Anyone ever wish (just once) that football was like wrestling? Then you could have Ronaldo in the last seconds turning round, running at his own defense and scoring the winner, before pulling off his white Madrid shirt to show a Red Utd one, running over to Ferguson and declaring himself a Utd player again.

Just me then?

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RE: European football - 27/2/2013 12:15:12 PM   
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Dunno, with all this talk of match-fixing it seems to be getting more and more like wrestling all the time.
On the subject of european teams - much as I like Borussia Dortmund, Klopp's shit-eating grin on the cover of this month's Four Four Two makes him look a right cunt.

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RE: European football - 27/2/2013 7:18:21 PM   
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Barca seem to have lost it in two ways. Firstly I really don't think getting so far ahead in the league has helped them. They look sluggish now because they don't have to try too much in La Liga. Secondly they're struggling to break teams down and I really do think it's down to not having Villa up there enough. I really don't understand why Villa isn't being used more and teams are more aware of the false nine and players moving from deep.

Ultmately though the absence of Vilanova can't be underestimated.

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RE: European football - 27/2/2013 7:32:41 PM   
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Chelsea vs Boro or Dortmund vs Bayern in the cup tonight.

Think I know where I'll be....

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RE: European football - 27/2/2013 8:23:09 PM   
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Good first half. Bayern well on top, but only one goal, a cracker from Robben who could have done better on a couple of other occasions.

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RE: European football - 28/2/2013 4:35:08 AM   
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It was a good game apart from a 20 minute dip. Bayern thoroughly deserved the win however and should have scored more.

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RE: European football - 28/2/2013 4:45:00 AM   
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Barca seem to have lost it in two ways. Firstly I really don't think getting so far ahead in the league has helped them. They look sluggish now because they don't have to try too much in La Liga. Secondly they're struggling to break teams down and I really do think it's down to not having Villa up there enough. I really don't understand why Villa isn't being used more and teams are more aware of the false nine and players moving from deep.

Ultmately though the absence of Vilanova can't be underestimated.


Yes Vilanova's absence is the main reason for Barca's slip in form. He gets dvd's of all the games to analyse and is in contact with the club daily, but you cannot coach even this team remotely. If Vilanova can't make it back in the next few weeks to resharpen everything, then they can kiss goodbye to the CL also this year. Xavi in particular in the Milan game and the Clasico was completely impotent, which is not like him at all and it says something when they replace him with Thiago that his performances have not been good enough - he will know that of course.

I agree about Villa too, he is a more direct player and something that Barca need to deploy more to win them games easily from the off. Even though he has 12 for the season in limited opportunities, you are not getting the best out of him nor the team by bringing him on as sub with 30 minutes to go (in general). Tello should start more games too, he has come on a lot this season and both him and Alves (and Alba backing Tello up) can give Barca genuine width to stretch defences more and stop relying on trying to put the ball through the eye of a needle in a disciplined defence.

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RE: European football - 28/2/2013 10:02:02 AM   
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Anyone ever wish (just once) that football was like wrestling? Then you could have Ronaldo in the last seconds turning round, running at his own defense and scoring the winner, before pulling off his white Madrid shirt to show a Red Utd one, running over to Ferguson and declaring himself a Utd player again.

Just me then?




That'd be awesome!

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RE: European football - 28/2/2013 3:50:22 PM   
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Definitely not over but it's great to see a team have a gameplan and not roll over like every team in La Liga


that's slightly unfair. Several teams in La Liga have given Barca trouble using a very similar gameplan, not just this year, but in previous years. The reason they inevitably capitulate over 90 mins is that they don't have the forward talent to take advantage (unlike Milan) and the whole thing goes to pot if you do concede.

Milan's performance last night was textbook way to play Barca - looking forward to the return leg now!


Dont agree with that statement, Barca have scored I believe 114 goals or so this season so they aren't exactly rubbish in front of goal. Milan played very well indeed and executed their gameplan perfectly. On top of that, it was the poorest display from Barcelona I have seen in a long time, they were tired, had no pace about their play, kept losing posession and Xavi and Messi in particular had an off night. I also believe they were missing Vilanova's guidance from the touchline though that can't be helped just now with him undergoing chemotherapy. I can't see them playing that badly again back home, however I do think they have an almighty task to keep Milan from scoring at the other end, which I have said all season is something Barcelona didn't address last summer, when they couldn't get Javi Martinez (how good a signing would that have been for them the way he completely (along with Schweinsteiger) negated Arsenal's midfield the other night and started the attacking play for them. Instead Barca went half-hearted and got Song, who is a decent enough midfielder, but no way a defender. I think they will win at home, but concede with the score being 3 - 1, which means their elimination.


Yes. I think the last couple of games have shown that the manger has an impact, its almost sad that Pep couldn't have sat in the seat for a few games while Vilanova is getting chemo. But I guess the world doesn't work like that.

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RE: European football - 2/3/2013 2:46:40 PM   
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Beer - check
Phone on silent - check
Wife packed off for the afternoon shopping - check

Okay, bring it on!

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RE: European football - 2/3/2013 3:19:23 PM   
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I think that dip in Messi form might be over

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RE: European football - 12/3/2013 1:00:01 PM   
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RE: European football - 12/3/2013 7:51:44 PM   
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That was a bit good.

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