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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 3/10/2012 8:05:13 PM   
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Totally but can Blu-ray players be hacked for multi-region as easily as most DVD players can, or would I be better buying a dedicated multiregional player? I know that any sort of fiddling about invalidates warranties so don't worry about mentioning that. In terms of previous experience in this area, I've done easy DVD player hacks through remote controls, as well as more challenging stuff like downloading and mounting bin/cue files to get through protection on Sony and Toshiba models.

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 3/10/2012 8:34:25 PM   
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Totally but can Blu-ray players be hacked for multi-region as easily as most DVD players can, or would I be better buying a dedicated multiregional player? I know that any sort of fiddling about invalidates warranties so don't worry about mentioning that. In terms of previous experience in this area, I've done easy DVD player hacks through remote controls, as well as more challenging stuff like downloading and mounting bin/cue files to get through protection on Sony and Toshiba models.


They can be modified (which involves soldering as its a circuit board) but not hacked (like with a code)

I sent mine off for modification, worth every (expensive) penny.

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 3/10/2012 8:51:05 PM   
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Mine was made multi region with an update i downloaded.

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 3/10/2012 9:07:28 PM   
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Ah of course. They can't all be I don't think, though? Mine's a Panasonic.

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 3/10/2012 9:17:50 PM   
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I dont see the reason why a blu ray player( or dvd player ) has to be multi region these days.There is so much great choice out there in our region and in many cases we get exclusive content over our amercian cousins.

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 3/10/2012 9:28:50 PM   
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I think DVDs should get the extras too, and it sucks for those who dont have blu rays players, but i dont blame the studios for siding with the superior format. I'm baffled as to why film lovers wouldn't want to upgrade. If you really love films, why wouldnt you want to watch them with the best possible picture and sound available for home viewing?


I am most definately a film lover but have no interest in Blu Ray yet, DVD is good enough and I don't see Blu Ray as being different enough to warrant buying a bloody HD TV and a BR player...and yes I have seen BRs played at people's houses and demos in shops. And just don't get me started on that big con called 3D.

Then again, I still watch videos......

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 3/10/2012 9:34:35 PM   
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I think DVDs should get the extras too, and it sucks for those who dont have blu rays players, but i dont blame the studios for siding with the superior format. I'm baffled as to why film lovers wouldn't want to upgrade. If you really love films, why wouldnt you want to watch them with the best possible picture and sound available for home viewing?


I am most definately a film lover but have no interest in Blu Ray yet, DVD is good enough and I don't see Blu Ray as being different enough to warrant buying a bloody HD TV and a BR player...and yes I have seen BRs played at people's houses and demos in shops. And just don't get me started on that big con called 3D.

Then again, I still watch videos......




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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 3/10/2012 9:34:43 PM   
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Ah of course. They can't all be I don't think, though? Mine's a Panasonic.


Oh no definitely not. I bought this specific model (Toshiba BDX3200) because Toshiba released an upgrade you could download to make it region free

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 3/10/2012 9:36:49 PM   
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quote:

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I think DVDs should get the extras too, and it sucks for those who dont have blu rays players, but i dont blame the studios for siding with the superior format. I'm baffled as to why film lovers wouldn't want to upgrade. If you really love films, why wouldnt you want to watch them with the best possible picture and sound available for home viewing?


I am most definately a film lover but have no interest in Blu Ray yet, DVD is good enough and I don't see Blu Ray as being different enough to warrant buying a bloody HD TV and a BR player...and yes I have seen BRs played at people's houses and demos in shops. And just don't get me started on that big con called 3D.

Then again, I still watch videos......


Fair enough, but like i say, i can't understand why film lovers wouldn't want to watch their movies in the best possible quality and hear them with the best sound. If people dont want to upgrade that's cool, but my stance is that there's a huge difference in terms of quality.

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 3/10/2012 9:41:32 PM   
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The difference between Blu-ray and DVD is much bigger than the difference between DVD and VHS.

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 3/10/2012 9:50:49 PM   
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The difference between Blu-ray and DVD is much bigger than the difference between DVD and VHS.


I was going to post a similar thing myself. The difference is immense, i just can't understand any film fans seeing blu ray in action and going 'meh'

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 3/10/2012 9:52:41 PM   
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I dont see the reason why a blu ray player( or dvd player ) has to be multi region these days.There is so much great choice out there in our region and in many cases we get exclusive content over our amercian cousins.


Simply because there's still a massive amount that isn't released over here at all, vanilla or not. If your world extends beyond Hollywood a multi-region player can still be a necessity. Most of the films I buy from the Far East still have no sign of R2 releases e.g.

And, of course, there's Criterion.


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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 1:14:27 AM   
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The difference between Blu-ray and DVD is much bigger than the difference between DVD and VHS.


Oh COME.ON! The difference between VHS and DVD was huge.

The difference between DVD and blu is marginal at best.They are both disc based formats and it's just that blus have more storage space allowing slightly better pic and sound quality.

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 7:28:37 AM   
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Ah this takes me back.

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 7:56:12 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: directorscut

The difference between Blu-ray and DVD is much bigger than the difference between DVD and VHS.


Oh COME.ON! The difference between VHS and DVD was huge.

The difference between DVD and blu is marginal at best.They are both disc based formats and it's just that blus have more storage space allowing slightly better pic and sound quality.


Wow so much wrong!

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 9:16:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DONOVAN KURTWOOD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cool Breeze


quote:

ORIGINAL: directorscut

The difference between Blu-ray and DVD is much bigger than the difference between DVD and VHS.


Oh COME.ON! The difference between VHS and DVD was huge.

The difference between DVD and blu is marginal at best.They are both disc based formats and it's just that blus have more storage space allowing slightly better pic and sound quality.


Wow so much wrong!


DVD was revolutionary, there is no question of that.

I'd agree that the impact DVD had was far greater than the impact Blu-ray has had. The shift from analogue video to digital was huge; and the shift from a bulky, easily damaged tape casette that degraded slightly after every viewing to a small disc which, with care, would work as well on the 100th viewing as it did on the 1st was massive.

The difference between Blu-ray and DVD is an evolutionary step. If we concentrate on image quality, which is what most of us judge these things by, using crude mathematics the increase in potential spatial resolution between these two formats is greater than between DVD and VHS, but as I keep repeating spatial resolution is only one factor which affects perceived image quality.

The increase in dynamic range, colour resolution and image stability going from VHS to DVD was huge, whereas the increase between DVD and Blu-ray is relatively small. Blu-ray still uses 8bit video with compressed colour resolution. I'd be willing to concede that, whatever the figures might imply, the jump from VHS to DVD was bigger than the jump from DVD to Blu-ray, at least in the real world. DVD is still perfectly watchable, even on relatively large screens whereas VHS is a horrible mess.

That isn't to say that Blu-ray isn't a huge upgrade: it is. For film fans and videophiles it allows us to approach the image quality of a really good professional screening room or a top flight commercial theatre. In many cases we can have better picture quality at home than our local multiplex. That is huge, but you need a relatively specialised set up (either a large screen or a close viewing position) to get the most from Blu-ray: something most of us don't have the luxury of. For most of us the room layout dictates our distance from the screen whereas ideally the distance to the screen should direct room layout. Again, when we look at real world situations many of us are not making the most of Blu-ray's potential. Some of us might as well still be watching DVD.

The next step in home theatre is apparently going to be 4k at home, which is 4 times the spatial resolution of Blu-ray. Personally I don't see the point, but that may change.


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Ah this takes me back.


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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 9:30:47 AM   
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Have we had any confirmation of the '10.11.12' viral thing that did the roudns for Prometheus shortly after the theatrical release? I'm interested to see the deleted scenes on the Blu when it arrives. The film definately felt like it had been chopped around quite a bit, and I know there has been dismissal of a Directors Cut, but I honestly can't imagine what the '10.11.12' date could refer to if not a Directors Cut? Sequel announcement?

Regarding Blu and DVD and VHS, I think the jump from VHS to DVD was more significant than DVD to Blu, but there is no way I could go back to watching DVD. I have a hard time watching TV in any kind of standard definition now, watching the football in standard definition is terrible. I can understand why peopple havent made the jump to Blu yet, as in it's early days and until recently there was a more significant price jump. However, now, the standard new Blu releases are abround 13, with special editions (including 3D) around 18/20, not a huge difference to the days when DVD releases were vanilla and two disc special editions, really. Which is why I still cant beleive Cool Breeze thinks that the price structure for Prometheus' DVD/Blu/3D home release is some kind of rip off. DVD with a few extras will be approx a tenner, Blu Ray with more extras will be around fifteen quid, and the special edition set with full extras and 3D/2D versions of the film will be the top end twenty quid. I cant see how that is any kind of rip off? The more you pay, the more content you get. You cant expect these businesses to put all there content into the smaller, cheaper product. It doesnt really make sense. They know they will get sales in all areas, from completists and fans for the higher spec editions, to casual viewers for the lower end. If you want all the extras, you pay for em. If all the extras were included on a two disc DVD set, I'd expect the price to be higher, more like the 15-20 quid range, and at that price you may as well just take the jump to Blu. Also, I think Blu Ray players now are ridiculously cheap, even 3D ones, so are HD TV's, you can pick em up for 200 quid. Still a great deal of money in hard times, but anyone in the market for a TV these days has no excuse not to go HD and Blu.

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 10:05:34 AM   
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However, now, the standard new Blu releases are abround 13, with special editions (including 3D) around 18/20, not a huge difference to the days when DVD releases were vanilla and two disc special editions, really. Which is why I still cant beleive Cool Breeze thinks that the price structure for Prometheus' DVD/Blu/3D home release is some kind of rip off. DVD with a few extras will be approx a tenner, Blu Ray with more extras will be around fifteen quid, and the special edition set with full extras and 3D/2D versions of the film will be the top end twenty quid. I cant see how that is any kind of rip off?


When you compare that to the prices they were charging for laserdiscs once upon a time it is bloody good value for money.

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 10:13:50 AM   
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I'd agree that the impact DVD had was far greater than the impact Blu-ray has had. The shift from analogue video to digital was huge; and the shift from a bulky, easily damaged tape casette that degraded slightly after every viewing to a small disc which, with care, would work as well on the 100th viewing as it did on the 1st was massive.


I have VHS tapes that still play better after umpteen views than some DVDs bought brand new

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 10:17:44 AM   
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I'd agree that the impact DVD had was far greater than the impact Blu-ray has had. The shift from analogue video to digital was huge; and the shift from a bulky, easily damaged tape casette that degraded slightly after every viewing to a small disc which, with care, would work as well on the 100th viewing as it did on the 1st was massive.


I have VHS tapes that still play better after umpteen views than some DVDs bought brand new


But surely that means those DVD's are faulty and could therefore have been returned? I dont see how a new DVD could play worse than a VHS, unless it was faulty.

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 10:22:21 AM   
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Well true, but I've never had to return a VHS for not playing right. It took me 4 copies of the latest Pirates film before I had one that didn't pause, freeze, stick or jump to an unwatchable degree. Of course, you could ask why I wanted the 4th Pirates film but it was still an annoyance that's happened far too many times over the years.




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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 10:23:59 AM   
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I must apologise for moving this thread so far off-topic, but the discussion on DVD / Blu-ray is rather interesting. I really should move this question to another forum but the expertise seems to be here, so here goes:

As an extension of my earlier question about multiregion - is a multiregional blu-ray player also multiregion for DVDs? I've got lots of interesting stuff on DVD that isn't R2 and so would like, if possible, to be able to play everything on one machine if possible when I upgrade.

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 10:31:02 AM   
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quote:

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I'd agree that the impact DVD had was far greater than the impact Blu-ray has had. The shift from analogue video to digital was huge; and the shift from a bulky, easily damaged tape casette that degraded slightly after every viewing to a small disc which, with care, would work as well on the 100th viewing as it did on the 1st was massive.


I have VHS tapes that still play better after umpteen views than some DVDs bought brand new


But surely that means those DVD's are faulty and could therefore have been returned? I dont see how a new DVD could play worse than a VHS, unless it was faulty.


There's also the possibility of shitty transfers, especially in the early days of the format. I remember importing a copy of Blood Simple before it got an R2 release and the transfer was far and away the worst I've seen on DVD. It was nigh on unwatchable, worse than any VHS I ever bought by far. Granted this was early in the format's lifespan and probably quite a rarity even then.

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 11:00:38 AM   
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There's also the possibility of shitty transfers, especially in the early days of the format. I remember importing a copy of Blood Simple before it got an R2 release and the transfer was far and away the worst I've seen on DVD. It was nigh on unwatchable, worse than any VHS I ever bought by far. Granted this was early in the format's lifespan and probably quite a rarity even then.


In the early days of DVD quite a few of the masters used were re-purposed from laserdisc. They didn't use DVDs anamorphic capabilities and, as they were mastered for an analogue technology, didn't reflect the full capacity of the format. As there were often compression artefacts on top of these other limitations due to the newness of the technology, there was a group of laserdisc fans who were vocally critical of DVD. Kevin Smith notoriously said, "Fuck DVD," on one of his laserdisc commentaries; something he had to later put in context when the same commentary was used on a DVD release. By this time he was one of the formats biggest fans.

There will always be anomalies, even late into a format's life. There are still films on DVD which have only been released with a VHS master. These are usually public domain releases from small labels, but they are out there.

Some Blu-rays use re-purposed HDTV masters to keep costs down; something some feel very strongly about, while others are less concerned. I only add this for completeness. I have no intention of re-fighting that particular battle.

The point is a format should be judged by its strongest titles rather than its weakest. A good DVD will be hugely better than a good VHS and a good Blu-ray will be hugely better than a good DVD.

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 11:17:06 AM   
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While it would be fair to judge the possibilities of the format by the strongest title, I don't think that's what you'd be judging when making financial decisions on whether or not to shell out for new players (and, in some cases including mine, new TVs - I don't pay for Sky HD because it's not connected to an HD ready TV). It would be whatever you could gather of the generality of the format. And then whether that really is a major factor for you.

I'd also echo Gimli's point above although it's an aside - I think, at times, far less care is taken when printing off 1000s of DVDs and I've had far more playing problems with discs than I ever did with VHS, including in terms of longevity.

As for off-topic - I thought about it on the last page but the original post, while about Prometheus, was also about differing options in Blu-Ray and DVD. And while this has, to an extent, been a retread of old arguments I don't think it is necessarily off-topic. So you're OK there




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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 11:59:09 AM   
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The point is a format should be judged by its strongest titles rather than its weakest. A good DVD will be hugely better than a good VHS and a good Blu-ray will be hugely better than a good DVD.



WOuld you also say that an average Blu transfer would be better than a good DVD? I mean, even an HDTV transfer may not compare against some of the very best Blu trasnfers, but I'd have to say they would be far better than most top end DVD trasnfers.

Also, in terms of the leap in quality, I've noticed things while watching movies on Blu (movies I love and have seen hundreds of times over) that I had never seen before, certain colours, details on costumes and sets and a detail in fast moving scenes that sometimes seem lost on DVD, recent examples being Alien and Jaws. Seeing those on Blu was like seeing them for the very first time, just brilliant.

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 12:42:20 PM   
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To bring this back (sort-of) to Prometheus, there's a bit where you see a closeup of David's fingers, when he's playing with black gloop. I haven't seen the film in HD but am told that the quality is so sharp that you can see the little W (for Weyland) on David's fingertip. I'm not sure if the DVD could display that level of detail?

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 1:05:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dpp1978


quote:

ORIGINAL: DONOVAN KURTWOOD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cool Breeze


quote:

ORIGINAL: directorscut

The difference between Blu-ray and DVD is much bigger than the difference between DVD and VHS.


Oh COME.ON! The difference between VHS and DVD was huge.

The difference between DVD and blu is marginal at best.They are both disc based formats and it's just that blus have more storage space allowing slightly better pic and sound quality.


Wow so much wrong!


DVD was revolutionary, there is no question of that.

I'd agree that the impact DVD had was far greater than the impact Blu-ray has had. The shift from analogue video to digital was huge; and the shift from a bulky, easily damaged tape casette that degraded slightly after every viewing to a small disc which, with care, would work as well on the 100th viewing as it did on the 1st was massive.

The difference between Blu-ray and DVD is an evolutionary step. If we concentrate on image quality, which is what most of us judge these things by, using crude mathematics the increase in potential spatial resolution between these two formats is greater than between DVD and VHS, but as I keep repeating spatial resolution is only one factor which affects perceived image quality.

The increase in dynamic range, colour resolution and image stability going from VHS to DVD was huge, whereas the increase between DVD and Blu-ray is relatively small. Blu-ray still uses 8bit video with compressed colour resolution. I'd be willing to concede that, whatever the figures might imply, the jump from VHS to DVD was bigger than the jump from DVD to Blu-ray, at least in the real world. DVD is still perfectly watchable, even on relatively large screens whereas VHS is a horrible mess.

That isn't to say that Blu-ray isn't a huge upgrade: it is. For film fans and videophiles it allows us to approach the image quality of a really good professional screening room or a top flight commercial theatre. In many cases we can have better picture quality at home than our local multiplex. That is huge, but you need a relatively specialised set up (either a large screen or a close viewing position) to get the most from Blu-ray: something most of us don't have the luxury of. For most of us the room layout dictates our distance from the screen whereas ideally the distance to the screen should direct room layout. Again, when we look at real world situations many of us are not making the most of Blu-ray's potential. Some of us might as well still be watching DVD.

The next step in home theatre is apparently going to be 4k at home, which is 4 times the spatial resolution of Blu-ray. Personally I don't see the point, but that may change.


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ORIGINAL: UTB

Ah this takes me back.


It's 2007 all over again.


I meant wrong to me, not necessarily wholly factually wrong

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 1:10:47 PM   
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I must apologise for moving this thread so far off-topic, but the discussion on DVD / Blu-ray is rather interesting. I really should move this question to another forum but the expertise seems to be here, so here goes:

As an extension of my earlier question about multiregion - is a multiregional blu-ray player also multiregion for DVDs? I've got lots of interesting stuff on DVD that isn't R2 and so would like, if possible, to be able to play everything on one machine if possible when I upgrade.


My region free blu ray is also region free for DVDs

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RE: Think the Prometheus DVD will have the extras? - 4/10/2012 1:14:29 PM   
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The point is a format should be judged by its strongest titles rather than its weakest. A good DVD will be hugely better than a good VHS and a good Blu-ray will be hugely better than a good DVD.



WOuld you also say that an average Blu transfer would be better than a good DVD? I mean, even an HDTV transfer may not compare against some of the very best Blu trasnfers, but I'd have to say they would be far better than most top end DVD trasnfers.

Also, in terms of the leap in quality, I've noticed things while watching movies on Blu (movies I love and have seen hundreds of times over) that I had never seen before, certain colours, details on costumes and sets and a detail in fast moving scenes that sometimes seem lost on DVD, recent examples being Alien and Jaws. Seeing those on Blu was like seeing them for the very first time, just brilliant.



Absolutely on all this. Watching soem of my favourites movies on blu, after years of watching them on VHS and then DVD was an amazing experience. I defy anyone to say they'd rather watch Lawrence of Arabia on VHS or DVD rather than the blu ray that just came out.

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