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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 3:46:26 PM   
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My problem with the review is that he gives away some of the best lines of dialogue but doesnt actually tell us important stuff that wed like to know.I mean are the action sequences any good? Are they shot well and edited well? Have they got rid of the shaky cam? Is there a good degree of carnage,violence,and swearing?
I just got the impression that Nick doesnt like action movies in general.


It's a 12A. What do you think?

Not that I think that a movie has to be 15 to be good. Some of my favourite movies are 12A... but I do hate it when someone comes in *cough*Chuck Norris*cough* and fucks with the movie as intended. As much as I think the first one failed to deliver on its promise, I have no problem believing that this will fail even more.


its not 12a, it's 15. Also in relation to your Mark Kermode 'pretentious snob' remark. The guy's a renowned horror fan (even the trashy ones) and he also gave the Twlight films positive reviews. Just because his opinion is different to yours doesnt make him a pretentious snob.



I stand corrected. I'd heard about the backlash when they announced it was going to be PG13 in the US, and I'd never heard of a PG13 over there being a 15 over here before. Do we have another cut, or is it because the BBFC is stricter when it comes to violence than the MPAA?

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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 3:47:03 PM   
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He gave The Grey 4 stars recently - that'd count too?

So we're on to stage two - diss the reviewer and say they're not really qualified to give an opinion? I'd have thought better of you Cool Breeze. You must know how these things go.



But again, Nick doesnt tell us whether the action scenes are any better/worse then the first one.One of the few issues i had with EX1 was the use of shaky cam.This is a movie where you go for the action and he doesnt really mention anything about this crucial element.



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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 3:47:18 PM   
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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 3:48:12 PM   
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If it could settle on one specific tone (either whoop whoop at the screen tongue in cheekness, or serious action movie) it'd be a lot better for it. But as the review suggests it's much like the first in that respect, I'll pass.

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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 3:49:06 PM   
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He gave The Grey 4 stars recently - that'd count too?

So we're on to stage two - diss the reviewer and say they're not really qualified to give an opinion? I'd have thought better of you Cool Breeze. You must know how these things go.



But again, Nick doesnt tell us whether the action scenes are any better/worse then the first one.One of the few issues i had with EX1 was the use of shaky cam.This is a movie where you go for the action and he doesnt really mention anything about this crucial element.





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More unforgivably, it fails to mint iconic dialogue and carnage of its own. Stunt gags are yoinked from the likes of Die Hard 4.0, Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade and The Losers, while there’s little of the preposterous, colourful action that characterised director Simon West’s Con Air. Instead it’s all a bit drab and dreary.


I think he was disappointed with what he saw and no matter how shakey-less the camera is, it wouldn't overdo that.


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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 3:50:11 PM   
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Seriously, is it possible that Expendables 2 just isn't that fun? The first had some nice things but it was mostly dull, why would a sequel be any certainly different? Stallone for me just isn't a fun action star nor director, and in this case I'd rather watch most things coming from Asia. Like The Raid, Breaking News (ALL THOSE PRETTY LONG TAKES) or if it lives up to its reputation, The Man from Nowhere.

And since the guy who directed it is Simon West, Con Air is rated 4 stars here. The Mechanic is three stars.


I love it. It's pretty much the Korean Taken, but it's highly enjoyable, and being Korean far more brutal. The early fight scenes are very quick cut (I think it's because the people he's fighting are taken by surprise, so they did it deliberately to do it from their point of view), but it's a great film.

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RE: The Predictables - 15/8/2012 3:50:18 PM   
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The best way to get five stars from Empire is to, I dunno, make a good film?

Or just be a film made by Jackson, Whedon, Nolan, Spielberg, Coen, Boyle, Lucas, Abrams, Singer etc etc. They have all made films which get an extra star than they deserve. Empire reviews are far from impartial. t 


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Empire are not often starstruck/blinded by their love of their favourite people.


The point is that you're cherry-picking to make a point. The Raid, all by itself, completely negates that point - the point apparently being that Empire aren't judging films on merit and the reviewer's opinion of same. A point seemingly being made based solely on your hopes of what a film you haven't seen, but they have, might be like. You might not realise this, but nearly every review thread in here has someone turning up eventually claiming Empire doesn't get some genre or other, or is too excessively fond of one genre or other and all because they like/don't like a film someone else does/doesn't.

The Raid is also a particularly good example because of the last Expendables thread is anything to go by we have pages of idiocy about Empire not getting action movies to come.





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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 3:51:24 PM   
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Seriously, is it possible that Expendables 2 just isn't that fun? The first had some nice things but it was mostly dull, why would a sequel be any certainly different? Stallone for me just isn't a fun action star nor director, and in this case I'd rather watch most things coming from Asia. Like The Raid, Breaking News (ALL THOSE PRETTY LONG TAKES) or if it lives up to its reputation, The Man from Nowhere.

And since the guy who directed it is Simon West, Con Air is rated 4 stars here. The Mechanic is three stars.


I love it. It's pretty much the Korean Taken, but it's highly enjoyable, and being Korean far more brutal. The early fight scenes are very quick cut (I think it's because the people he's fighting are taken by surprise, so they did it deliberately to do it from their point of view), but it's a great film.



GODDAMNIT I HATED TAKEN WHY DID YOU HAVE TO RUIN IT FOR ME???!?!?!?!?!



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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 3:53:15 PM   
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I think the problem with the person who reviewed this actually thought he was going to watch an actual serious movie! He wasn't and someone should of told him! It is a movie which is a toungue in cheek film made in the style of the 80's for the fans, not the critics, so who cares what they think! I say bring on Expendables 3!!!


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RE: The Predictables - 15/8/2012 3:55:48 PM   
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All I am and was saying is that The reviewers do often give better ratings to the people they like.


Proof, facts and numbers please rather than belief and hearsay based on them not liking a film you want to like? And a list of 5 star films doesn't cut it - not when most people like directors or films because they're good directors and films. What you've suggested goes far beyond that, you just maybe don't realise that's the rather insulting implication. It's a causal connection not a corrupt one.

And I give you Prometheus - a film Mr Nathan, on your accusation, would have been pre-programmed to like. And just look at that thread. All sorts of different accusations levelled there.



Is it always like this here? Cos I think I got off at the wrong stop.


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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 3:56:39 PM   
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Seriously, is it possible that Expendables 2 just isn't that fun? The first had some nice things but it was mostly dull, why would a sequel be any certainly different? Stallone for me just isn't a fun action star nor director, and in this case I'd rather watch most things coming from Asia. Like The Raid, Breaking News (ALL THOSE PRETTY LONG TAKES) or if it lives up to its reputation, The Man from Nowhere.

And since the guy who directed it is Simon West, Con Air is rated 4 stars here. The Mechanic is three stars.


I love it. It's pretty much the Korean Taken, but it's highly enjoyable, and being Korean far more brutal. The early fight scenes are very quick cut (I think it's because the people he's fighting are taken by surprise, so they did it deliberately to do it from their point of view), but it's a great film.



GODDAMNIT I HATED TAKEN WHY DID YOU HAVE TO RUIN IT FOR ME???!?!?!?!?!




I can honestly say I've never even thought of the piece of shit that was Taken in connection with The Man From Nowhere - the quality differential is far far too wide to be breached by superficial plot similarities. Ugh - horrible thought


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RE: The Predictables - 15/8/2012 3:57:45 PM   
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It's always like that in Film Reviews. It's the Afghanistan of EmpireOnline in terms of overall endless fighting.

While Lists is the France, filled with pretentious enemy of film snobs like elab who loves some abstract Swedish film full of vignettes.

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RE: The Predictables - 15/8/2012 3:58:02 PM   
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All I am and was saying is that The reviewers do often give better ratings to the people they like.


Proof, facts and numbers please rather than belief and hearsay based on them not liking a film you want to like? And a list of 5 star films doesn't cut it - not when most people like directors or films because they're good directors and films. What you've suggested goes far beyond that, you just maybe don't realise that's the rather insulting implication. It's a causal connection not a corrupt one.

And I give you Prometheus - a film Mr Nathan, on your accusation, would have been pre-programmed to like. And just look at that thread. All sorts of different accusations levelled there.



Is it always like this here? Cos I think I got off at the wrong stop.



Not only here... check out any movie/videogame/music/comic-related website and without exception, every review will cause a shitstorm.

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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 3:59:03 PM   
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My problem with the review is that he gives away some of the best lines of dialogue but doesnt actually tell us important stuff that wed like to know.I mean are the action sequences any good? Are they shot well and edited well? Have they got rid of the shaky cam? Is there a good degree of carnage,violence,and swearing?
I just got the impression that Nick doesnt like action movies in general.


It's a 12A. What do you think?

Not that I think that a movie has to be 15 to be good. Some of my favourite movies are 12A... but I do hate it when someone comes in *cough*Chuck Norris*cough* and fucks with the movie as intended. As much as I think the first one failed to deliver on its promise, I have no problem believing that this will fail even more.


its not 12a, it's 15. Also in relation to your Mark Kermode 'pretentious snob' remark. The guy's a renowned horror fan (even the trashy ones) and he also gave the Twlight films positive reviews. Just because his opinion is different to yours doesnt make him a pretentious snob.



I stand corrected. I'd heard about the backlash when they announced it was going to be PG13 in the US, and I'd never heard of a PG13 over there being a 15 over here before. Do we have another cut, or is it because the BBFC is stricter when it comes to violence than the MPAA?


It's rated R in the US

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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 3:59:52 PM   
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My problem with the review is that he gives away some of the best lines of dialogue but doesnt actually tell us important stuff that wed like to know.I mean are the action sequences any good? Are they shot well and edited well? Have they got rid of the shaky cam? Is there a good degree of carnage,violence,and swearing?

I just got the impression that Nick doesnt like action movies in general.


He liked Fast Five, Planet Terror and Crank (4 stars).

And questionably, Transformers 2.



Fucking hell.


Its currently at 57/100 on Metacritic (6 reviews) so perhaps closer to 3 stars is better. I'm getting the impression is it is the same dissapointments of the first film...which is sad to hear.

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RE: The Predictables - 15/8/2012 4:00:08 PM   
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All I am and was saying is that The reviewers do often give better ratings to the people they like.


Proof, facts and numbers please rather than belief and hearsay based on them not liking a film you want to like? And a list of 5 star films doesn't cut it - not when most people like directors or films because they're good directors and films. What you've suggested goes far beyond that, you just maybe don't realise that's the rather insulting implication. It's a causal connection not a corrupt one.

And I give you Prometheus - a film Mr Nathan, on your accusation, would have been pre-programmed to like. And just look at that thread. All sorts of different accusations levelled there.


Is it even possible to provide proof facts and numbers to corroborate opinions?
But as an example-
The Intolerable Cruelty 5* review http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/review.asp?DVDID=9810
and the IMDb 6.3 rating http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0138524/
or
Superman returns 5* http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/review.asp?DVDID=117462
IMDb 6.3 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0348150/
How many times do I have to say that's it not a case of them not liking a film that I do? I have no opinion of the quality of The Expendables 2.
I didn't imply any corruption, and did say that it was caused by the love of a film maker's previous work, so you seem to be saying the same thing as me...
Nor did I say it always happened, so Prometheus isn't relevant. Though I should have said 'sometimes' not 'often'.

Just as good film makers sometimes make films below their usual quality, so does Empire with reviews. Sometimes I feel that directors/producers lose their objectivity when making decisions and think that whatever they make will be good, such as-
The Wachowski brothers, from the Matrix to Speed Racer;
The Coen brothers, from O brother to Intolerable Cruelty;
Spielberg, Minority Report to War of the Worlds;
Soderbergh, from Ocean's 11 to Ocean's 12
And sometimes Empire reviews do the same.

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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 4:00:13 PM   
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Seriously, is it possible that Expendables 2 just isn't that fun? The first had some nice things but it was mostly dull, why would a sequel be any certainly different? Stallone for me just isn't a fun action star nor director, and in this case I'd rather watch most things coming from Asia. Like The Raid, Breaking News (ALL THOSE PRETTY LONG TAKES) or if it lives up to its reputation, The Man from Nowhere.

And since the guy who directed it is Simon West, Con Air is rated 4 stars here. The Mechanic is three stars.


I love it. It's pretty much the Korean Taken, but it's highly enjoyable, and being Korean far more brutal. The early fight scenes are very quick cut (I think it's because the people he's fighting are taken by surprise, so they did it deliberately to do it from their point of view), but it's a great film.



GODDAMNIT I HATED TAKEN WHY DID YOU HAVE TO RUIN IT FOR ME???!?!?!?!?!




I can honestly say I've never even thought of the piece of shit that was Taken in connection with The Man From Nowhere - the quality differential is far far too wide to be breached by superficial plot similarities. Ugh - horrible thought




SPOILERS! For films that are not Expendables 2.


Yes... I was only talking about the plot similarities. Girl gets kidnapped, ex-special forces agent gets pissed off and goes on a single-minded violent rescue mission, criminals regret fucking with the wrong Mexican... except neither of them are Mexican, obviously.

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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 4:01:31 PM   
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My problem with the review is that he gives away some of the best lines of dialogue but doesnt actually tell us important stuff that wed like to know.I mean are the action sequences any good? Are they shot well and edited well? Have they got rid of the shaky cam? Is there a good degree of carnage,violence,and swearing?
I just got the impression that Nick doesnt like action movies in general.


It's a 12A. What do you think?

Not that I think that a movie has to be 15 to be good. Some of my favourite movies are 12A... but I do hate it when someone comes in *cough*Chuck Norris*cough* and fucks with the movie as intended. As much as I think the first one failed to deliver on its promise, I have no problem believing that this will fail even more.


its not 12a, it's 15. Also in relation to your Mark Kermode 'pretentious snob' remark. The guy's a renowned horror fan (even the trashy ones) and he also gave the Twlight films positive reviews. Just because his opinion is different to yours doesnt make him a pretentious snob.



I stand corrected. I'd heard about the backlash when they announced it was going to be PG13 in the US, and I'd never heard of a PG13 over there being a 15 over here before. Do we have another cut, or is it because the BBFC is stricter when it comes to violence than the MPAA?


It's rated R in the US


Wait... so all of that controversy about its rating was for nothing?

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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 4:02:43 PM   
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Spoiler warnings Mr Reznor, please 




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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 4:06:38 PM   
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Spoiler warnings Mr Reznor, please 





Fuck... I think I'll shut up for a while. Just re-read that and realised that at least one of the things in that post does indeed constitute as a pretty major spoiler... I'll white it out and hope Dev hasn't seen it already.

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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 4:11:45 PM   
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I saw NIN support Guns N' Roses once, so your username is freaking me a bit.
Sorry, I know it's Off Topic but it is the Reviews thread after all

As for the film, I think I've seen the first one but can't remember, which is probably a fair review in itself

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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 4:40:30 PM   
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It's ironic that a movie which wears it's masculinity like a badge of hardness has fans who read one bad review and start crying like little girls.

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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 4:42:27 PM   
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It's ironic that a movie which wears it's masculinity like a badge of hardness has fans who read one bad review and start crying like little girls.




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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 4:52:32 PM   
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My problem with the review is that he gives away some of the best lines of dialogue but doesnt actually tell us important stuff that wed like to know.I mean are the action sequences any good? Are they shot well and edited well? Have they got rid of the shaky cam? Is there a good degree of carnage,violence,and swearing?
I just got the impression that Nick doesnt like action movies in general.


It's a 12A. What do you think?

Not that I think that a movie has to be 15 to be good. Some of my favourite movies are 12A... but I do hate it when someone comes in *cough*Chuck Norris*cough* and fucks with the movie as intended. As much as I think the first one failed to deliver on its promise, I have no problem believing that this will fail even more.


its not 12a, it's 15. Also in relation to your Mark Kermode 'pretentious snob' remark. The guy's a renowned horror fan (even the trashy ones) and he also gave the Twlight films positive reviews. Just because his opinion is different to yours doesnt make him a pretentious snob.



I stand corrected. I'd heard about the backlash when they announced it was going to be PG13 in the US, and I'd never heard of a PG13 over there being a 15 over here before. Do we have another cut, or is it because the BBFC is stricter when it comes to violence than the MPAA?


It's rated R in the US


Wait... so all of that controversy about its rating was for nothing?


Not for nothing, it got the rating changed back to R during production. Problem is they've done exactly what happened with the last film. Expendables 1 was going to be PG-13 then after fan outrage they added in a bunch of stuff to make it R, They took PG-13 dialogue and action and threw R rated stuff in later, explains why all the blood in the first one is CGI. I'm guessing that's what it will look like in this one too.

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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 5:34:05 PM   
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It's ironic that a movie which wears it's masculinity like a badge of hardness has fans who read one bad review and start crying like little girls.






Seconded

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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 9:40:03 PM   
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Now if I found out Mark Kermode has ever written a review for Empire I may just have to reassess that opinion...


Strongly object to this post. Say what you like about Kermode, but to describe him as a pretentious snob is totally & completely wrong.

For a start, he loved Mamma Mia, digs Twilight & has a massive admiration for a number of genre films (spefically horror & exploitation). If anything, he's just as much a "movie fan" as most of the Empire team seem to be.

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RE: 1/5 - 15/8/2012 10:57:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bereski

no chance this get the same two star review as Bourne.
Bourne was great, shame on you


They look like different two star reviews to me.
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RE: 1/5 - 15/8/2012 11:52:36 PM   
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I'm reading this thread right now whilst wearing thick-rimmed glasses. AND I'm listening to jazz music.

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RE: 2 Star Review - 15/8/2012 11:58:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Qwerty Norris


quote:

ORIGINAL: AxlReznor

Now if I found out Mark Kermode has ever written a review for Empire I may just have to reassess that opinion...


Strongly object to this post. Say what you like about Kermode, but to describe him as a pretentious snob is totally & completely wrong.

For a start, he loved Mamma Mia, digs Twilight & has a massive admiration for a number of genre films (spefically horror & exploitation). If anything, he's just as much a "movie fan" as most of the Empire team seem to be.


Liking a couple of "low brow" movies doesn't change the fact that he acts like a pretentious tit 99% of the time.

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RE: 2 Star Review - 16/8/2012 12:09:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: directorscut


quote:

ORIGINAL: Qwerty Norris


quote:

ORIGINAL: AxlReznor

Now if I found out Mark Kermode has ever written a review for Empire I may just have to reassess that opinion...


Strongly object to this post. Say what you like about Kermode, but to describe him as a pretentious snob is totally & completely wrong.

For a start, he loved Mamma Mia, digs Twilight & has a massive admiration for a number of genre films (spefically horror & exploitation). If anything, he's just as much a "movie fan" as most of the Empire team seem to be.


Liking a couple of "low brow" movies doesn't change the fact that he acts like a pretentious tit 99% of the time.


So what does he do 99% of the time to earn that status? Clearly you're an expert.


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Qwerty's Top 10 of 2013 (so far)

1. Zero Dark Thirty
2. No
3. A Hijacking
4. Behind the Candelabra
5. In The Fog
6. Good Vibrations
7. McCullin
8. Beyond the Hills
9. The Place Beyond the Pines
10. Wreck-it Ralph

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