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Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 8/8/2012 12:14:43 AM   
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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 8/8/2012 12:21:18 AM   
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I really hope this is either region free of coming out in the UK, because I don't have a multi region Blu Ray Player... but I really need to see this film...

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 8/8/2012 12:29:19 AM   
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I've seen a rubbish quality version my American aunt sent me years ago, but I'd love to see a properly remastered version.

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 8/8/2012 12:31:49 AM   
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Kino discs tend to be region free unlike those motherpeckers Criterion.

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 8/8/2012 10:23:39 AM   
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Awesome news.

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 9/8/2012 9:18:11 PM   
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quote:

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I've seen a rubbish quality version my American aunt sent me years ago, but I'd love to see a properly remastered version.



Funnily enough My American Aunt sent me a copy a few years back, but the quality made it nigh on impossible to watch so I gave up after about 5 minutes.

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 9/8/2012 9:49:53 PM   
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Saw this news a few days ago, amazing news!
Really hope that the restauration will be good

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 9/8/2012 11:28:58 PM   
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I'm conflicted about this release on account of Kubrick's desire, pun intended, for the film never to see the light of day. It seems a little disrespectful for Kino to be putting this out at all.

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 10/8/2012 12:06:25 AM   
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I'm conflicted about this release on account of Kubrick's desire, pun intended, for the film never to see the light of day. It seems a little disrespectful for Kino to be putting this out at all.


Were you similarly conflicted when they released A Clockwork Orange in the UK right after he died? A film he had prevented from having a UK release.

The film exists and we should be doing everything we can to ensure its continued existence.


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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 10/8/2012 12:06:39 AM   
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I'm conflicted about this release on account of Kubrick's desire, pun intended, for the film never to see the light of day. It seems a little disrespectful for Kino to be putting this out at all.


Bollox. Kubrick isn't the only person to work on the film. Other people worked on the film too and deserve to have their work seen. No one person should be able to say whether a film can or can't be seen.

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 10/8/2012 12:07:46 AM   
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Well that was a bizarrely coincidental decision to reply at almost the same time with much the same thought.

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 10/8/2012 8:04:43 AM   
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As someone's mentioned its already been out on DVD.

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 10/8/2012 11:29:20 AM   
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quote:

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Were you similarly conflicted when they released A Clockwork Orange in the UK right after he died? A film he had prevented from having a UK release.

The film exists and we should be doing everything we can to ensure its continued existence.


I've actually held up the ACW one as a similar case in an article I've just written on the whole thing. I do think that from an ethical perspective there are similar concerns to be had. I find it to be a fascinating area actually, and a natural extension to my prime concern with cinema, which is one revolving around directorial intent.

In all fairness, and mooting my concerns somewhat, the stories as to how and why Fear And Desire has remained out of distribution are wide and varied, ranging from the infamous "KUBRICK HID IT OUT OF EMBARRASSMENT" line to ones far less glamorous reason of bankrupt distributors just not being in a position to screen the film.

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 10/8/2012 11:59:38 AM   
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As someone's mentioned its already been out on DVD.


It's never been given an official release tho has it? Due to it being in the public domain any one is free to release it, but there's nothing on amazon or anything. I suspect the Kino release A) stems from the print found in 2010, and B) is intended as a definitive version to stop any bootlegs hitting shelves. By issuing a disc Kino will be able to claim that specific restoration lawfully, meaning that any future legal "bootlegs" would presumably pale in comparison. They seem to basically be doing what Universal did with It's A Wonderful Life.

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 10/8/2012 1:51:39 PM   
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Fair enough.


So you won't be getting it then?

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 10/8/2012 2:51:01 PM   
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Fair enough.


So you won't be getting it then?


Therein lies the rub. While I may be conflicted about the release I'm also a hypocrite, in that the historical angle intrigues me so much that I will inevitably pick it up. I own a bootleg anyway, so it's not like I'm saying I'd partake in any boycott, but I still find it disrespectful that Kubrick's wishes aren't being adhered to.

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 10/8/2012 4:08:04 PM   
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Where do you stand on George Lucas keeping the original versions of Star Wars and THX 1138 out of circulation? It's essentially the same thing.

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 10/8/2012 4:26:46 PM   
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Where do you stand on George Lucas keeping the original versions of Star Wars and THX 1138 out of circulation? It's essentially the same thing.


I think he can do what he wants with them, they're his films. Likewise with Friedkin and The French Connection, Spielberg and ET, Jackson and the green tint, Coppola and Apocalypse Now, or any manner of filmmakers that have tinkered with their work. I'm not saying I'm pleased with the results of some of this tinkering, but I respect their right to fuck about 'til their hearts content.

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 10/8/2012 4:36:33 PM   
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What if Da Vinci had kept going back to the Mona Lisa thinking, "you know, I can't quite that smile right"? At what point does an artist's work entering the public domain mean that actually, it's out there, and that's it?

I'm not saying I agree or disagree, I just think it's an interesting discussion.

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 10/8/2012 4:45:51 PM   
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I wonder what Kubrick would have made of Spartacus being included in the Kubrick Collection (US release)?

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 10/8/2012 5:02:17 PM   
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What if Da Vinci had kept going back to the Mona Lisa thinking, "you know, I can't quite that smile right"?


With the Mona Lisa there's no way of knowing, but plenty of artists whose paths we can trace have shown revisionist tendencies. Damien Hirst's current Tate exhibition features recreations of the initial works that are considered to be as definitive as the originals in spite of any differences. Warhol is probably the most obvious example of an artist that would refine and reproduce his own pieces over and over again, and the same principles be seen in haute couture, music and even design engineering.

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At what point does an artist's work entering the public domain mean that actually, it's out there, and that's it?


I don't know. As with all of the examples I've cited I guess it all depends on the mindset of the creative force. It's up to them. Sure, as viewers we can try and lay claim to something that we admire or enjoy, but ultimately it doesn't belong to us.

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 6/11/2012 10:44:36 PM   
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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 7/11/2012 12:14:22 PM   
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I've always heard Kubrick kept it out of circulation due to emabarrassment and that the money problems were just coincidental to that.

But it really isn't that good and I think peoples' memory of it is far better than the film itself. Whilst I welcome news of any long out-of-print film being made available (and I do mean "any" - I include Roger Corman's Fantastic Four and Jerry Lewis' The Day the Clown Cried, both shit no doubt, but I think they deserve to be seen), I certainly won't be rushing out to buy Fear and Desire. Okay, it does have its moments, but it really is nothing more than a cheapo dry run for Paths of Glory.

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RE: Stanley Kubrick's Debut, Fear and Desire, on Blu Ray - 7/11/2012 2:35:29 PM   
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Yeah, but, y'know, it's Kubrick.

I am biased: he's my favourite director of all time. Every film he made, from The Killing onwards, is pretty much perfect. I include Spartacus which, while arguably not "A Stanley Kubrick Picture" in the same way the others have his own mark on them, is still an excellent film.

This is completing the set, really.

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