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ORIGINAL: Helen OHara

Yes, and Wolverine defeated it with a Fastball special (with Colossus). Two of the most fan-authentic touches in the entire film, there.

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ORIGINAL: sowasred2012

I haven't read or seen any iteration of Days of Future Past, but what if whatever they do with this film could nullify some of the crap they pulled in Last Stand (killing Scott and Jean, wasting Phoenix and Psylocke, neutering Magneto, Mystique and Rogue, vaporizing Prof X and putting him in another body, having Vinnie Jones in it at all)?

If they're gonna start messing around with alternate timelines, the possibilities are GLORIOUS.

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more unsuited to the role of Emma Frost? proof again that Vaughns team are clueless about their source material. Emma Frost is not an airhead. She's powerful, and i'm not talking about her superpowers, just her personality. Finally the most disappointing thing about First Class is, how badly they screw up the emotional beats. One way they do this is through all the killing in the film. There is too much mindless death showcased in this film. It makes you feel empty. Take Sebastian Shaw and co as they overcome the pentagon place. All the mindless killing of soldiers that goes on in that scene is overwhelming. Men dropping out of the sky, Azrail stabbing people. It does nothing for character, it doesn't enhance their villainy, it weakens the characters into nihilists, without ever explaining that nihilism. Vaughn needs to aspire to Nolans level. He needs to get more cinematic, spend more, take more time, stop focusing on being a reputable under-schedule, under budget studio lackey. He should have their trust now, use it to broaden the canvas and move beyond these superficial BBC standards.

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ORIGINAL: waltham1979

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more unsuited to the role of Emma Frost? proof again that Vaughns team are clueless about their source material. Emma Frost is not an airhead. She's powerful, and i'm not talking about her superpowers, just her personality. Finally the most disappointing thing about First Class is, how badly they screw up the emotional beats. One way they do this is through all the killing in the film. There is too much mindless death showcased in this film. It makes you feel empty. Take Sebastian Shaw and co as they overcome the pentagon place. All the mindless killing of soldiers that goes on in that scene is overwhelming. Men dropping out of the sky, Azrail stabbing people. It does nothing for character, it doesn't enhance their villainy, it weakens the characters into nihilists, without ever explaining that nihilism. Vaughn needs to aspire to Nolans level. He needs to get more cinematic, spend more, take more time, stop focusing on being a reputable under-schedule, under budget studio lackey. He should have their trust now, use it to broaden the canvas and move beyond these superficial BBC standards.

Just reading between the lines here...but I kinda get the feeling you don't like the film!!

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Personally I disagree with everything you say. Loved First Class and I've been reading the comics since I was six. Not everything from the comic would be able to translate onto film - its an adaptation and I think it works as an entertaining film that shows both sides to the proverbial mutant/human issue.

Yeah, that's cool. I'm glad you like it.

I did make some very valid and precise criticisms. I think they were strong. I think it's great that you disagree and have a strong counter opinion, however, there is no real argument here against anything I stated. You've made some entirely different points such as

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"it shows both sides to the proverbial mutant/human issue."

The human/mutant issue is integral to Xmen. It's one of the essential themes, if not the ultimate theme in the Xmen story. They would be crazy not to involve it as a central theme. But I still stand by the criticisms I made. This should have the same production standards as The Dark Knight trilogy. Vaughn has the budget, the studio backing. I really think he needs to lift the production values on the next one and make it more cinematic, and ditch the cgi blue screen effects, because they're really cheap and tacky and when coupled with a cheesy scene like Emma Frost getting ice for Sebastian Shaw's whiskey off an iceberg in the antarctic ocean, with a fake blue screen background of antarctica, miscast acting from January Jones, miswritten character writing from the Vaughn team. It really takes you out of the film experience.

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By the way, dissing O'Hara on this forum is almost as bad calling Nathan Fillion a shit actor who shouldn't be in every film made. You just don't do it!!