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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 12:45:26 AM   
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Can't believe you all let Homer away with mentioning Boonmee and not bringing up Emporer's New Clothes



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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 12:47:15 AM   
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Can't believe you all let Homer away with mentioning Boonmee and not bringing up Emporer's New Clothes




Guys, Paul is trying to make a point. WON'T SOMEONE LISTEN TO HIM.


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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 2:01:35 AM   
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Listen to him, guys.

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 10:10:09 AM   
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What's more infuriating...

MICHAEL MANN'S TOP 10 FILMS

1. Apocalypse Now (Coppola, 1979)
2. Battleship Potemkin (Eisenstein, 1925)
3. Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
4. Dr Strangelove (Kubrick, 1963)
5. Faust (Murnau, 1926)
6. Last Year at Marienbad (Resnais, 1961)
7. My Darling Clementine (Ford, 1946)
8. The Passion of Joan of Arc (Dreyer, 1928)
9. Raging Bull (Scorsese, 1980)
10. The Wild Bunch (Peckinpah, 1969)

He knocked Faust out for Avatar. (Could have been Last Year.. but to justify my anger I'll stick with the former assumption).




So he knocked out the best of the 10 for Avatar. Case closed - man's a tit.


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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 10:24:36 AM   
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What's more infuriating...

MICHAEL MANN'S TOP 10 FILMS

1. Apocalypse Now (Coppola, 1979)
2. Battleship Potemkin (Eisenstein, 1925)
3. Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
4. Dr Strangelove (Kubrick, 1963)
5. Faust (Murnau, 1926)
6. Last Year at Marienbad (Resnais, 1961)
7. My Darling Clementine (Ford, 1946)
8. The Passion of Joan of Arc (Dreyer, 1928)
9. Raging Bull (Scorsese, 1980)
10. The Wild Bunch (Peckinpah, 1969)

He knocked Faust out for Avatar. (Could have been Last Year.. but to justify my anger I'll stick with the former assumption).




So he knocked out the best of the 10 for Avatar. Case closed - man's a tit.



I'd put it ninth. But bumping anything for Avatar is the behaviour of a tit.

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 10:27:59 AM   
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lol at insulting a person for his choice of films.

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 10:33:27 AM   
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lol at insulting a person for his choice of films.


I was just keeping in the spirit of the thread.

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 10:34:46 AM   
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Does anyone remember Piles' anger at Frank Darabont's list? That was funny.

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 10:40:52 AM   
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I miss Piles.

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 10:41:46 AM   
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I can take or leave him, frankly.

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 10:43:46 AM   
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'Avatar' is a brilliant synthesis of mythic tropes, with debts to Levi Strauss and Frazier's The Golden Bough. It stones and transports you


Mann's taking the piss, yes?



Godard is another unlikely fan of Avatar.

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 10:44:19 AM   
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But when Jayb left he stepped up and took over as our 60s Kitchen Sink Frenchman.

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 10:49:20 AM   
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'Avatar' is a brilliant synthesis of mythic tropes, with debts to Levi Strauss and Frazier's The Golden Bough. It stones and transports you


Mann's taking the piss, yes?



Godard is another unlikely fan of Avatar.


Maybe he thinks it's (ooo-errrr) controversial.  

Sorry, I don't need the Avatar thing to think he's a tit. I've suffered through his film work (and honestly, you're not going to win that one )


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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 10:52:07 AM   
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There's nothing wrong with liking Avatar. No it probably shouldn't be in a top 10, but it's still an entertaining and perfectly enjoyable movie.

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 10:58:12 AM   
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Unless you think it's utter dreck. 'fraid I'm in that camp. 

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 10:59:52 AM   
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Unless you think it's utter dreck. 'fraid I'm in that camp. 


I thought it was bad as you'd expect from a director whose only enjoyable film was a piece of plagiarism.

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 11:03:44 AM   
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Going with the story being plagiarised has no bearing on whether you'd enjoy the film though? *ignores slight on Aliens as usual *

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 11:05:01 AM   
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Although there are some great films on their list it pisses me off that they never put anything recent on there. It feels like they are majorly behind. Empire's lists, while perhaps having more questionable choices tend to be a lot more interesting to read and have a lot more variety.

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 11:05:55 AM   
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It's the only film of his I have any real time for. And he lifted it from Harlan Ellison, whose work I do like. I credit Ellison for The Terminator rather than Cameron.

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 11:07:41 AM   
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But Ellison didn't direct it - good scripts don't necessarily mean watchable films? 

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 11:15:17 AM   
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But Ellison didn't direct it - good scripts don't necessarily mean watchable films? 


True enough. But it is odd just how much I've disliked Cameron's career from that point on.

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Although there are some great films on their list it pisses me off that they never put anything recent on there. It feels like they are majorly behind. Empire's lists, while perhaps having more questionable choices tend to be a lot more interesting to read and have a lot more variety.


I don't think it's that much of a problem though. It's not a small committee of voters deciding the top 10. It's 800 people and they only get 10 votes each. I think it's natural for a lot of people for recent releases not to jump straight into their top 10.

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 4/8/2012 11:18:24 AM   
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Ooooh - almost there. Teasing some praise out of you for Cameron is like pouring treacle 

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 11/8/2012 2:15:04 AM   
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What's more infuriating...

MICHAEL MANN'S TOP 10 FILMS

1. Apocalypse Now (Coppola, 1979)
2. Battleship Potemkin (Eisenstein, 1925)
3. Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
4. Dr Strangelove (Kubrick, 1963)
5. Faust (Murnau, 1926)
6. Last Year at Marienbad (Resnais, 1961)
7. My Darling Clementine (Ford, 1946)
8. The Passion of Joan of Arc (Dreyer, 1928)
9. Raging Bull (Scorsese, 1980)
10. The Wild Bunch (Peckinpah, 1969)

He knocked Faust out for Avatar. (Could have been Last Year.. but to justify my anger I'll stick with the former assumption).




So he knocked out the best of the 10 for Avatar. Case closed - man's a tit.



He named Confessions his no11

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 11/8/2012 9:03:18 AM   
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What's more infuriating...

MICHAEL MANN'S TOP 10 FILMS

1. Apocalypse Now (Coppola, 1979)
2. Battleship Potemkin (Eisenstein, 1925)
3. Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
4. Dr Strangelove (Kubrick, 1963)
5. Faust (Murnau, 1926)
6. Last Year at Marienbad (Resnais, 1961)
7. My Darling Clementine (Ford, 1946)
8. The Passion of Joan of Arc (Dreyer, 1928)
9. Raging Bull (Scorsese, 1980)
10. The Wild Bunch (Peckinpah, 1969)

He knocked Faust out for Avatar. (Could have been Last Year.. but to justify my anger I'll stick with the former assumption).




So he knocked out the best of the 10 for Avatar. Case closed - man's a tit.



He named Confessions his no11


Studiously ignores Ultimo *whistles*

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 11/8/2012 1:09:51 PM   
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What's more infuriating...

MICHAEL MANN'S TOP 10 FILMS

1. Apocalypse Now (Coppola, 1979)
2. Battleship Potemkin (Eisenstein, 1925)
3. Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
4. Dr Strangelove (Kubrick, 1963)
5. Faust (Murnau, 1926)
6. Last Year at Marienbad (Resnais, 1961)
7. My Darling Clementine (Ford, 1946)
8. The Passion of Joan of Arc (Dreyer, 1928)
9. Raging Bull (Scorsese, 1980)
10. The Wild Bunch (Peckinpah, 1969)

He knocked Faust out for Avatar. (Could have been Last Year.. but to justify my anger I'll stick with the former assumption).




So he knocked out the best of the 10 for Avatar. Case closed - man's a tit.



He named Confessions his no11


Studiously ignores Ultimo *whistles*



I know Mann likes blue but that's ridiculous. Smurfs next?

Enjoyed going through the Director's lists but the critics lists are the same old story.

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 16/8/2012 3:09:43 PM   
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All the voter's lists http://explore.bfi.org.uk/sightandsoundpolls/2012/voter

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 16/8/2012 9:01:48 PM   
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Only just looked at the top 250, nice that the expanded list can answer criticisms related to recent films - Tree of Life, Turin Horse, Tropical Malady, Boonmee, There Will Be Blood, Wall-E, etc and horror - Eraserhead, Texas Chainsaw, Don't Look Now, Vampyr, Nosferatu, The Shining

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 16/8/2012 9:11:47 PM   
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The full critics list is fascinating, if not only for the odd African/Asian I haven't seen that has caught my interest.

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 16/8/2012 10:58:49 PM   
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Here comes the Bresson parade...seriously did all his films just get a place in the top 250?!

And where's Naruse? 1 in the top 250 (a good choice with Floating Clouds none-the-less) and only 1 person voted for The Sound of the Mountain 49 voted for Balthasar! 24 voted for Pickpocket! 23 for A Man Escaped! 12! FUDGIN' 12!! for that atrocity The Devil, Probably!! yet only 1 for Sound of the Mountain! Repast isn't even mentioned. How do you sleep at night knowing your top 10 contains The Devil, Probably?

Conspiracy

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RE: Sight & Sound Poll 2012 - 16/8/2012 11:01:43 PM   
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I'd say rawlinson likes Xan Brooks and Charles Whitehead a lot more than he did this morning.

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