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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 29/7/2012 7:19:23 AM   
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I think you need to watch it again. Except this time open your mind a little and engage your brain. There was plenty of culture and heritage on display. Apparently all some people wanted was a dry and meaningless parade of famous historical figures, bereft of context, like some dumb Madame Tussards exhibit that did nothing but tick boxes. How boring and predictable that would have been.

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I must add, you guys won't like it but on another forum someone said it looked like a 'bubble n squeak' Eurovision song contest lol! and that is quite an accurate observation actually


No it isn't. Perhaps you should stay over there.

Damn, I said I wasn't going to look at this thread again. It's harshing my mellow, man.

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 29/7/2012 10:32:33 AM   
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What I listed IS British history! like it or not , there are many more people of course but why ignore our own heritage. I'm not saying it should have all been that but there should of been more if you ask me.



Did I miss something? Whose heritage, character, culture and achievement did we celebrate last night then?



Well this is the thing, if you go by the ceremony our heritage consists of pop stars, TV stars, a few movie icons, the NHS and steel workers hehe. Personally I just would have liked to have seen a few nods to the sort of people I mentioned, I realise there are so many. For example the steel sequence at the start could of had a nod for Robert Stephenson maybe or Long John Silver could have appeared alongside Mary Poppins etc...The whole thing seemed to be in panto style so it all could have worked Some of it reminded me of 'Oliver Twist' actually, it was so theatrical at times, but in a good way. There's another person who could of gotten a nod...Dickens (did he? don't recall).

For me...just a little less popstars, a little less obsession with London and a bit more focus on the rest of the UK and maybe Blackadder instead of Mr Bean.


You do know the rising towers were the 'dark, satanic mills' and it was Isambard Kingdom Brunel strutting about? That references were made to movements of the people - Jarrow, etc. That it was the tranfer from agrarian to industrial, the greatest transfer of people and capital in our history?

Quibbling over which childrens' characters to use seems quite minor. They were children being menaced - Long John Silver doesn't exactly come to mind as a saviour. And he also wouldn't have a cool flying implement to arrive with.

Oliver Twist was in the film segment. And the point was what the UK had given to the world in terms of music and cinema - punching a hell of a lot bigger than its size. Again, it was achievement - and they linked into the contribution of the UK to technology (again a link back to the IndRev) but completely up to date with Tim Berners Lee - and that linked into the tech to make the entire light show possible.

I really think you must have missed some of the show somewhere?

Also - Danny Boyle = Humphrey Jennings fan? Mix of high/low culture, history/achievement, humour and awe - I was rereading an old review of Listen to Britain and looking at some of the other stuff I had and wondering why I hadn't made the link sooner.


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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 29/7/2012 10:41:43 AM   
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I dunno....if some random person on another forum said it was rubbish then that is pretty much the case closed, right?

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 29/7/2012 11:38:56 AM   
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For me...just a little less popstars, a little less obsession with London and a bit more focus on the rest of the UK and maybe Blackadder instead of Mr Bean.


Blackadder was in the TV and film montage.

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 29/7/2012 1:00:14 PM   
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I dunno....if some random person on another forum said it was rubbish then that is pretty much the case closed, right?





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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 29/7/2012 2:00:18 PM   
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I only managed to see bits and pieces of the ceremony but what I saw was spectacular. I can't even imagine how much work went into pulling it off. All credit to Danny Boyle and his creative team.



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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 29/7/2012 7:42:51 PM   
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Well I'm surprised at the difference in opinions to be honest. I am on a few movie forums and this is the only one where people actually liked the ceremony, not having a go I'm just saying hehe. Oh well, some like some don't, me I'm somewhere in the middle.

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 29/7/2012 7:54:20 PM   
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Well I'm surprised at the difference in opinions to be honest. I am on a few movie forums and this is the only one where people actually liked the ceremony,


Yeah, but we are clearly the most intelligent and open-minded.

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 3:17:16 AM   
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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/londonspy/india-mystified-olympic-gatecrasher-103346738.html

Geez calm down India!


Seating fury!

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 6:59:30 AM   
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Well I'm surprised at the difference in opinions to be honest. I am on a few movie forums and this is the only one where people actually liked the ceremony, not having a go I'm just saying hehe. Oh well, some like some don't, me I'm somewhere in the middle.


Which movie forums exactly? Because this forum is pretty the same as the twittersphere, which is a lot wider than any single forum.


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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 7:36:34 AM   
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Well I'm surprised at the difference in opinions to be honest. I am on a few movie forums and this is the only one where people actually liked the ceremony, not having a go I'm just saying hehe. Oh well, some like some don't, me I'm somewhere in the middle.


Which movie forums exactly? Because this forum is pretty the same as the twittersphere, which is a lot wider than any single forum.



Nice to see you taking to this medium so well! They grow up so fast...!




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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 7:45:47 AM   
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The worst Olympic opening ceremony of all times.It was boring...

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 7:49:31 AM   
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I thought the first section was amazing - the creating the rings part was beautifully done..

The whole thing I really enjoyed (though the texting couple bored me a bit). The only things I think it missed out was Doctor Who (unless I missed it in the TV part, was there any reference?) and Shakespeare.

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 8:29:40 AM   
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I thought the first section was amazing - the creating the rings part was beautifully done..

The whole thing I really enjoyed (though the texting couple bored me a bit).



Can't argue with that!

I thought Voldemort was hilarious for some reason.

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 8:43:40 AM   
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I thought the first section was amazing - the creating the rings part was beautifully done..

The whole thing I really enjoyed (though the texting couple bored me a bit). The only things I think it missed out was Doctor Who (unless I missed it in the TV part, was there any reference?) and Shakespeare.


The whole Isles of Wonder was framed round Shakespeare - the opening speech, Branagh's, was from the Tempest. And the Tardis effect played during the music stuff.

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 9:48:53 AM   
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I thought the first section was amazing - the creating the rings part was beautifully done..

The whole thing I really enjoyed (though the texting couple bored me a bit). The only things I think it missed out was Doctor Who (unless I missed it in the TV part, was there any reference?) and Shakespeare.


The whole Isles of Wonder was framed round Shakespeare - the opening speech, Branagh's, was from the Tempest. And the Tardis effect played during the music stuff.


Well, that proves me wrong!!

But I would have liked to have seen the Tardis anyway.

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 9:51:32 AM   
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There's a post elsewhere that suggests there was a film nod to the progress through the Drs (I guess fitting with the general theme of progress) but it was cut for time (which they had been warned might happen).

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 2:41:58 PM   
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I always feel proud when this song comes on, and coupled with Kenneth Branagh reading a passage from The Tempest while dressed as Isumbard Kingdom Brunel it made for a powerful moment

Bollocks to people who think we didn't show enough culture, that's 3 epic pieces of British culture rolled into one right there.

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 2:45:17 PM   
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It sounds, with some, that they weren't paying attention when Brunel was introduced, e.g, the 'generic Victorian gentleman' comment further up.

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 3:01:09 PM   
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It sounds, with some, that they weren't paying attention when Brunel was introduced, e.g, the 'generic Victorian gentleman' comment further up.


Including the idiots on NBC who apparently thought he was a Dickens character.

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 3:34:11 PM   
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It sounds, with some, that they weren't paying attention when Brunel was introduced, e.g, the 'generic Victorian gentleman' comment further up.


Including the idiots on NBC who apparently thought he was a Dickens character.


And the ones on Buzzfeed who thought he was some "Brit Abe Lincoln"......



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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 3:59:00 PM   
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It appears this opening ceremony has opened up a whole can worms, check out the messages at the bottom.

http://botherer.org/2012/07/28/the-daily-mail-and-how-an-nhs-death-means-racism-is-fine/

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 4:06:14 PM   
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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 4:16:36 PM   
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It appears this opening ceremony has opened up a whole can worms, check out the messages at the bottom.

http://botherer.org/2012/07/28/the-daily-mail-and-how-an-nhs-death-means-racism-is-fine/




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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 5:18:09 PM   
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It appears this opening ceremony has opened up a whole can worms,


Well, all it's really done is annoyed a few right-wing tosspots and racists. Which can only be a good thing as they have basically exposed themselves as the idiots they are with their hyperbolic 'outrage', via their columns and blogs. Luckily they do seem to be in the minority.

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 5:25:40 PM   
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It appears this opening ceremony has opened up a whole can worms, check out the messages at the bottom.

http://botherer.org/2012/07/28/the-daily-mail-and-how-an-nhs-death-means-racism-is-fine/


The Daily Mail posting racist rubbish is not exactly new. They do it cynically with most everything to get hits on their website and profit from it. They don't seem to care what crap their 'writers' produce.

Did you see my query above?


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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 7:45:11 PM   
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1.7m viewers on iPlayer for the opening ceremony, apparently.

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 30/7/2012 11:05:00 PM   
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I liked it.

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 1/8/2012 6:58:29 AM   
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-2181812/London-2012-Olympics-Shin-A-Lam-refuses-special-medal.html

No way you could of made that hit in one second, couldn't happen, Shin won.

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RE: Olympic Opening Ceremony - 1/8/2012 8:38:07 AM   
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-2181812/London-2012-Olympics-Shin-A-Lam-refuses-special-medal.html

No way you could of made that hit in one second, couldn't happen, Shin won.



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