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ORIGINAL: homersimpson_esq

Yeah but 30 Days of Night was a bit poo...

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There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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ORIGINAL: elab49
I really wish I could go down to see Privates

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ORIGINAL: Deviation

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ORIGINAL: homersimpson_esq

Yeah but 30 Days of Night was a bit poo...

And the a bit poo film did the whole time passing thing in a constant state of siege better than TDKR.

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Do we really need to see a flashback to this? Nolan isn't the kind of director to spoon feed his audience and this wasn't something that needed really going into.

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ORIGINAL: thedrin

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ORIGINAL: Vadersville

Yeah, a lot of the supposed errorsbrought up in this thread really don't exist. But actually the one about Miranda tate that you said does, doesn't either. Baffled when someone brought it up I purposely looked out for it next time but it's simply not there. Bruce sees Miranda when he is brought before Lucius and tells her he'll come back for her. He and Lucius are then taken away with Selina. Lucius and Bruce go off to get him armed up whilst Miranda and Gordon and his men are taken before Crane in the court and sentenced to death by exile. Bane tells the guards to bring Miranda to him and leaves with her. Bruce then rescues Gordon but Miranda isn't there so he asks where she is. Where is the error?

Fox and Tate are found 23 days before the bomb goes off. We do not see Fox again until the day the bomb goes off.
A day before the bomb goes off, Tate offers to help the cops. We don't know where she or Fox have been for the last 22 days.
Gordon, cops, and Tate are taken to the court. Bane requests Tate.
Wayne is captured and is probably brought to the court or a related location under the control of the bad guys. He meets Fox and Tate. This is the first time we see Fox in 22 days. He, presumably, has been at the mercy of the bad guys for all of this time. But Fox would have arrived with Tate. So from his perspective Tate has arrived with him under guard, left, and arrived again after she was captured with the cops. He may not know that she was brought in with the cops.
Kyle escorts Fox and Wayne away from where they are being held. Miranda stays behind. Fox helps Wayne become Batman.
Batman rescues the cops. He asks where Tate is. he has just seen her - she was brought in with the cops before Wayne was captured.

Why would Miranda have been brought in with Fox? She escapes when he is captured. Plus the fact that she is Talia means that we can probably guess where she has been in the missing time. Plus, Miranda is definitley sentenced after meeting Bruce. So Batman expects to see her with Gordon and the cops when he resuces them from death by exile, but she isn't there because Bane has taken her away after their sentencing.

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ORIGINAL: thedrin

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ORIGINAL: Vadersville

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ORIGINAL: thedrin

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ORIGINAL: Vadersville

Yeah, a lot of the supposed errorsbrought up in this thread really don't exist. But actually the one about Miranda tate that you said does, doesn't either. Baffled when someone brought it up I purposely looked out for it next time but it's simply not there. Bruce sees Miranda when he is brought before Lucius and tells her he'll come back for her. He and Lucius are then taken away with Selina. Lucius and Bruce go off to get him armed up whilst Miranda and Gordon and his men are taken before Crane in the court and sentenced to death by exile. Bane tells the guards to bring Miranda to him and leaves with her. Bruce then rescues Gordon but Miranda isn't there so he asks where she is. Where is the error?

Fox and Tate are found 23 days before the bomb goes off. We do not see Fox again until the day the bomb goes off.
A day before the bomb goes off, Tate offers to help the cops. We don't know where she or Fox have been for the last 22 days.
Gordon, cops, and Tate are taken to the court. Bane requests Tate.
Wayne is captured and is probably brought to the court or a related location under the control of the bad guys. He meets Fox and Tate. This is the first time we see Fox in 22 days. He, presumably, has been at the mercy of the bad guys for all of this time. But Fox would have arrived with Tate. So from his perspective Tate has arrived with him under guard, left, and arrived again after she was captured with the cops. He may not know that she was brought in with the cops.
Kyle escorts Fox and Wayne away from where they are being held. Miranda stays behind. Fox helps Wayne become Batman.
Batman rescues the cops. He asks where Tate is. he has just seen her - she was brought in with the cops before Wayne was captured.

Why would Miranda have been brought in with Fox? She escapes when he is captured. Plus the fact that she is Talia means that we can probably guess where she has been in the missing time. Plus, Miranda is definitley sentenced after meeting Bruce. So Batman expects to see her with Gordon and the cops when he resuces them from death by exile, but she isn't there because Bane has taken her away after their sentencing.

It's not where she is when we don't see her that is a problem. It's where other people think she is when we don't see her. I'll accept that she may have evaded capture when Fox was around.

I'm near 100% certain that you've got the order of events mixed up there. Gordon and Tate are brought to the court. They get separated. Then Wayne is captured and brought to some base of operations where he meets Tate. Then Wayne becomes Batman, rescues Gordon and asks Gordon where Tate is. He knows that he had contact with Tate since Gordon last did.

But even if you have the order of events correct and I've got it wrong, there's still a problem. Wayne's story line would go: meets Tate at the bad guy base, escapes with Fox and becomes Batman, rescues Gordon and co., asks where Tate is. And somewhere in the middle of that short passage of time Tate has left the base, joined forces with the cops, gone on a reconnaissance mission, and been captured. (This is why I'm certain I have the order of events correct - there's too much going on between Wayne and Fox escaping and Batman rescuing Gordon.)

I realise that there's a third possible time line. Bruce is brought to the same base as Tate, Gordon, and the cops at the exact same time. This does not happen.

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Anyway, moving on, I'm surprised no one else has metioned the links between the Pit and the well Bruce fell down in BB and also I suspect the Pit being Nolan's reference to Ra's Al Ghul's Lazarus Pits...

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I had no issue with Banes death.After all, he wasnt the real villain of the piece and was only a henchman for Talia.And Batman doesnt kill people so it was appropriate that someone with less idealistic values like Selina should finish him off.

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so I saw the quote a thon thread in musings and actually got interested in it but then it got locked so I thought I would start one here

"It doesn't matter who we are... what matters is our plan. No one cared who I was until I put on the mask."

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ORIGINAL: Ref

Lucius Fox: This conversation used to end with an unusual request.

That deep-browed Homer ruled as his demesne.


TREK WARS

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ORIGINAL: Larry of Arabia

"This is a stock exchange, there's no money for you to steal."

"Really? Then what are you people doing here?"

And my favourite...

"Death by exile!"

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I don't know if this is true or intentional or not but I would love it if it was,

"The Pit Prison where Bruce Wayne is imprisoned after his initial encounter with Bane is stated to have originally been a place where plague victims were sent to avoid contaminating the population. In ancient times, such places were known as Lazarettes, referring to the famous Biblical leper Lazarus, whom Jesus raised from the dead. This is a literalization of the Lazarus Pit, which in the original Batman comics is where Ra's Al Ghul bathes to keep his also literal immortality. Thus, when characters escape the Pit Prison in the film, they are said to have "risen."

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ORIGINAL: moviebuff73

not sure i liked what happened to joseph gordon-levitt's character at the end of the movie. i didn't see the point of it.

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"This is a stock exchange, there's no money for you to steal."

"Really? Then what are you people doing here?"

And my favourite...

"Death by exile!"

Larry of Arabia ignore thedrin, your avatar is all kinds of awesome. I really want one of that final kiss between Batman and Catwoman but can't find any good footage, plus I wouldn't even kno how to go about doing it.