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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 2:47:42 PM   
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Speaking of kids, I reprimanded my niece for saying 'couch' instead of 'settee' the other day.



Are you talking about the sofa?


The what?

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 2:51:14 PM   
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Speaking of kids, I reprimanded my niece for saying 'couch' instead of 'settee' the other day.



Are you talking about the sofa?


The what?


THE SOFA.

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 2:54:24 PM   
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Speaking of kids, I reprimanded my niece for saying 'couch' instead of 'settee' the other day.



Are you talking about the sofa?


The what?


THE SOFA.


I'm reading the letters but it's just not going in. Is it foreignish?

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 2:57:23 PM   
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Speaking of kids, I reprimanded my niece for saying 'couch' instead of 'settee' the other day.



Are you talking about the sofa?


The what?


THE SOFA.


I'm reading the letters but it's just not going in. Is it foreignish?


Must be a hard life never being able to watch a video or eat a gateau.

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 2:57:33 PM   
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Or if they are talking loudly on their mobile on the elevator in the morning.



Don't you mean "talking loudly on their cell in the lift?"
ps hello Lu

My kids have started to say "living room" instead of lounge. I'm pretty sure this is an Americanisation, so I've banned them from eating twinkies for a week.


I thought it was the other way round? Mind, I've always said 'sitting room' anyway.


Yeah, it's always been living room as far as I'm concerned, with "lounge" being the US preference (hence lounge suit, lounge misuc, lounge lizard etc all being of US origin). I reckon jonson should be made to eat twinkies for a week as punishment!  I've always seen the sitting room as the "good room" that you keep for visitors or, as my gran insisted on calling it, the parlour.  Then again, she also called the kitchen "the scullery", so what did she know?


Exactly. The sitting room is the good room, just next to the drawing room across from the music room. Yes, I am posh.
The lounge is where you "lounge" ie watching TV, and generally dossing around.

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 2:58:14 PM   
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My mum still varies between settee and couch - the younger generations all use the latter. 

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 2:58:59 PM   
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I'm reading the letters but it's just not going in. Is it foreignish?


Actually, etymologically I believe it's Arabic in origin (just as couch is Old French). Sofa is the word I use. Settee seems a bit prissy and couch is just a horrible-sounding word.

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 3:13:47 PM   
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Speaking of kids, I reprimanded my niece for saying 'couch' instead of 'settee' the other day.



Are you talking about the sofa?


The what?


THE SOFA.


I'm reading the letters but it's just not going in. Is it foreignish?


Must be a hard life never being able to watch a video or eat a gateau.


Not if you own a DVD player and don't like cake.

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 3:23:12 PM   
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I call it my napping piece. I fall asleep on the sofa/couch all the time.

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 4:33:06 PM   
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I call it the couch.

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 5:38:55 PM   
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Cluedo... Is that like the Walkers/Lays, Marathon/Snickers name mix up?

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 5:45:18 PM   
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Or if they are talking loudly on their mobile on the elevator in the morning.



Don't you mean "talking loudly on their cell in the lift?"
ps hello Lu

My kids have started to say "living room" instead of lounge. I'm pretty sure this is an Americanisation, so I've banned them from eating twinkies for a week.


I thought it was the other way round? Mind, I've always said 'sitting room' anyway.


Yeah, it's always been living room as far as I'm concerned, with "lounge" being the US preference (hence lounge suit, lounge misuc, lounge lizard etc all being of US origin). I reckon jonson should be made to eat twinkies for a week as punishment!  I've always seen the sitting room as the "good room" that you keep for visitors or, as my gran insisted on calling it, the parlour.  Then again, she also called the kitchen "the scullery", so what did she know?


Exactly. The sitting room is the good room, just next to the drawing room across from the music room. Yes, I am posh.
The lounge is where you "lounge" ie watching TV, and generally dossing around.


Lounge originated about 1830 meaning a comfortable Drawing Room and Living Room in England in 1848 so both are British. However, Lounge appears to be the adopted US word primarily becoming popular in the 50's although has developed in popularity from approx 1917.


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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 7:43:53 PM   
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Or if they are talking loudly on their mobile on the elevator in the morning.



Don't you mean "talking loudly on their cell in the lift?"
ps hello Lu

My kids have started to say "living room" instead of lounge. I'm pretty sure this is an Americanisation, so I've banned them from eating twinkies for a week.


I thought it was the other way round? Mind, I've always said 'sitting room' anyway.


Yeah, it's always been living room as far as I'm concerned, with "lounge" being the US preference (hence lounge suit, lounge misuc, lounge lizard etc all being of US origin). I reckon jonson should be made to eat twinkies for a week as punishment!  I've always seen the sitting room as the "good room" that you keep for visitors or, as my gran insisted on calling it, the parlour.  Then again, she also called the kitchen "the scullery", so what did she know?


Exactly. The sitting room is the good room, just next to the drawing room across from the music room. Yes, I am posh.
The lounge is where you "lounge" ie watching TV, and generally dossing around.


Lounge originated about 1830 meaning a comfortable Drawing Room and Living Room in England in 1848 so both are British. However, Lounge appears to be the adopted US word primarily becoming popular in the 50's although has developed in popularity from approx 1917.



If they'd called it the 'den' on the other hand, a good bollocking would surely have been in order?

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 8:16:07 PM   
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The term 'to suck'. As in "This movie sucks!" You'll never hear me say that.

Even worse is when someone says "This sucks arse" in an English accent. Just sounds ridiculous.

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 9:04:03 PM   
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They take a nice looking meal and either put cheese or bacon on it, or both!

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 10:32:45 PM   
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Or if they are talking loudly on their mobile on the elevator in the morning.



Don't you mean "talking loudly on their cell in the lift?"
ps hello Lu

My kids have started to say "living room" instead of lounge. I'm pretty sure this is an Americanisation, so I've banned them from eating twinkies for a week.


I thought it was the other way round? Mind, I've always said 'sitting room' anyway.


Yeah, it's always been living room as far as I'm concerned, with "lounge" being the US preference (hence lounge suit, lounge misuc, lounge lizard etc all being of US origin). I reckon jonson should be made to eat twinkies for a week as punishment!  I've always seen the sitting room as the "good room" that you keep for visitors or, as my gran insisted on calling it, the parlour.  Then again, she also called the kitchen "the scullery", so what did she know?


Exactly. The sitting room is the good room, just next to the drawing room across from the music room. Yes, I am posh.
The lounge is where you "lounge" ie watching TV, and generally dossing around.


Lounge originated about 1830 meaning a comfortable Drawing Room and Living Room in England in 1848 so both are British. However, Lounge appears to be the adopted US word primarily becoming popular in the 50's although has developed in popularity from approx 1917.


But doesn't lounge, in the American sense of the word (and in those cases as described by horriblieves), refer more to a semi formal indoor public gathering space where they might serve cocktails and have dancing girls and/or a swing band, and everyone would sit on big sofas around the egde of the room?

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 10:51:53 PM   
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I have always said 'Living Room' and I'm old. Never once thought of it as American. Then again, I have never lived in a house with a dining room or any other extra rooms outside of the essential, so a 'Living Room' is always what we had.

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 11:06:11 PM   
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Yup, it's always been the living room for me as well. Although my other half is from Essex and he tends to say lounge. Well, he used to until he started living with me. Before me, he called his remote control the remote control, but now he's adopted me and my family''s term 'the buttons'.

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 11:11:19 PM   
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'The buttons'? That's great

My mum calls it 'the doofer'. I think it was just a nonsensical word she came up with when she couldn't think of the words 'remote' and 'control'

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 7/8/2012 11:45:03 PM   
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They take a nice looking meal and either put cheese or bacon on it, or both!


I'm sorry: this is bad how?


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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 8/8/2012 1:02:27 AM   
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Living room. Or front room. Lounge is what the bar with the less sticky floor is called in country hotels.

As for yanks and food... syrup? On breakfast? Pancakes and meat? Thank phuck that nonsense hasn't crossed the Atlantic yet.

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 8/8/2012 8:59:49 AM   
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'The buttons'? That's great

My mum calls it 'the doofer'. I think it was just a nonsensical word she came up with when she couldn't think of the words 'remote' and 'control'


I've heard it called that before too. I think it's term that belongs to older women that aren't too at home with technology.

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 8/8/2012 12:20:31 PM   
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Funnily enough my Mother calls it 'the doofer' too

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 8/8/2012 12:27:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: boabyAs for yanks and food... syrup? On breakfast? Pancakes and meat? Thank phuck that nonsense hasn't crossed the Atlantic yet.


Actually it has and it's been around for ages - loads of cafes/breakfast places do it round these parts. Even though I do agree with you, the syrup thing is just an extension of maple cured bacon isn't it? Which isn't completely bonkers (nor is it American in origin, I don't think).

RE remote control - I've always said buttons or remote. My wife says box, which confused me for years cos I always thought she was referring to the TV. I think buttons is a very Welsh thing - all of my family (who are all Welsh) have always called them buttons.


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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 8/8/2012 4:27:28 PM   
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Bacon in your land scares me. It's stretchy. Ours is crisp.

On the west coast of my fair land, there are a lot of pancake/chicken houses. You receive a plate of pancakes and fried chicken covered in syrup. Although I love pancakes, bacon and eggs with syrup on the cakes, the thought of fried chicken covered in syrup is gross to me.

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 8/8/2012 5:40:32 PM   
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Actually it has and it's been around for ages - loads of cafes/breakfast places do it round these parts. Even though I do agree with you, the syrup thing is just an extension of maple cured bacon isn't it? Which isn't completely bonkers (nor is it American in origin, I don't think).



Damn those Canadians and their wily ways.



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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 8/8/2012 6:21:01 PM   
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Serious question: Why does the Ameicanisation of things annoy people? Is it that America is outright vulgar to them so its naturally offensive? Is it that something about dear old England that is being lost?

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 8/8/2012 7:21:33 PM   
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Serious question: Why does the Ameicanisation of things annoy people? Is it that America is outright vulgar to them so its naturally offensive? Is it that something about dear old England that is being lost?


It doesnt bother me that much, what does bother me is young 'uns talking like they're jamaican gangsters

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 8/8/2012 10:00:29 PM   
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Bacon in your land scares me. It's stretchy. Ours is crisp.


We have crispy bacon too - it's called streaky. The difference is that we Brits benefit from also having easy access to back (which is the most popular cut) and middle bacon, which is something I don't think you Stateside peeps have the luxury of in most of your grocery stores (correct me if I'm wrong, though). The other thing to consider is one of average national taste - Americans like bacon to be cooked to the point of shattering when you put a fork into it (which is how I like it too, as it happens), whereas most Brits like it cooked just to the point where the fat has begun to crisp up, but not so much that the meat has been overcooked (which, technically, bacon in America is).



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Actually it has and it's been around for ages - loads of cafes/breakfast places do it round these parts. Even though I do agree with you, the syrup thing is just an extension of maple cured bacon isn't it? Which isn't completely bonkers (nor is it American in origin, I don't think).



Damn those Canadians and their wily ways.


Nah nah, I'm sure it goes back further afield than that. I know a lot of native American tribes used to cook and cure numerous meats using a form of maple syrup, but I think the specific bacon curing thing has a European origin (I am not necessarily subtly suggesting Denmark).

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RE: Americanisation of everything! - 9/8/2012 11:01:07 AM   
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Serious question: Why does the Ameicanisation of things annoy people? Is it that America is outright vulgar to them so its naturally offensive? Is it that something about dear old England that is being lost?


It doesnt bother me that much, what does bother me is young 'uns talking like they're jamaican gangsters


Why is that unacceptable either? Jamacian culture, from reggae to rudeboy culture has been a influence of british culture on and off since about 1968. Surely this is just the latest influence of that? I don't really understand why being influenced by other cultures is such a bad thing, really.

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