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ORIGINAL: Fluke Skywalker

That said if there is a second batwing, we know that Bane has pilots in his ranks, access to Applied Sciences personnel and five months to train them.....

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ORIGINAL: Fluke Skywalker

Yeah that is the main problem as far as I can see - plus you'd be practising in a city which is just plain stupid.

In terms of security features you'd have to ask why they weren't in the Tumblers. I'd conclude that Bane once he took over the city just saw no need for it, he had the big weapon to hang over everyone so the government weren't going to pile in from the air, and even if they did one Batwing wouldn't stand a chance.

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ORIGINAL: Fluke Skywalker

It would have been nice to have seen Nolan's version of other Batcraft as well, I think the Tumbler is fantastic, completely a move away from the slick curved vehicles of the past, the Batbike is actually stripped down simplicity however the way those wheels can rotate in two different directions is mental.

I will say the Batmobile in Keaton's Batman is a cool design though it needs bigger rims and you could get easily get a cat trapped in that air intake

EDIT : the fucking image ain't turning up
[image]http://www.chickslovethecar.com/images/batmobile1.jpg[/image]

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http://www.chickslovethecar.com/images/batmobile1.jpg

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ORIGINAL: Fluke Skywalker

Yeah clearly the camo-tumblers or grey Batwing if it exists are essentially non-Batman-ised standard models as well and not as heavily kitted out.

On a side note I would have loved the Batwing to be a VTOL harrier type craft as well - it could have incorporated both the Batcopter and Batplane!

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ORIGINAL: cerebusboy

This is pretty cool - every Batmobile (including the comics) ever!

http://www.geekologie.com/image.php?path=/2011/01/07/batmobile-evolution-full.jpg

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ORIGINAL: Fluke Skywalker

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This is pretty cool - every Batmobile (including the comics) ever!

http://www.geekologie.com/image.php?path=/2011/01/07/batmobile-evolution-full.jpg

That is really cool cheers

It is strangely quiet - I think people were tuning in for the C.D.T.S saga

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ORIGINAL: Fluke Skywalker

Yeah clearly the camo-tumblers or grey Batwing if it exists are essentially non-Batman-ised standard models as well and not as heavily kitted out.

On a side note I would have loved the Batwing to be a VTOL harrier type craft as well - it could have incorporated both the Batcopter and Batplane!

Is it just me, or is this thread a bit quiet today? Hope chris isn't trapped down the sewer

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ORIGINAL: cerebusboy

This is pretty cool - every Batmobile (including the comics) ever!

http://www.geekologie.com/image.php?path=/2011/01/07/batmobile-evolution-full.jpg

That is really cool cheers

It is strangely quiet - I think people were tuning in for the C.D.T.S saga

DC have tried to do comics about GCPD but they've never been that popular...maybe the secret would be a story about them trapped underground! They could do a crossover with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!

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ORIGINAL: Filmfan 2

**SPOILERS**


I don't want to start off another 20 pages of debate of a minor point, but I just read something quite interesting on another forum regarding a 'plot hole' that never occurred to me.

Given that Bane breaks into the Applied Sciences vault and steals all of Batman's coolest toys, why didn't he have his own Bat? You clearly see two of them when Bruce is first introduced to them and, sure enough, there's still one at the end of the film after the other has been vaporised. This isn't a massive failing or anything in my eyes, and giving Batman an edge with air superiority was a part of the story that obviously came into its own given the ending, but it's a curious oversight nonetheless.

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ORIGINAL: Fluke Skywalker

Thing is wouldn't an explosion of that magnitude just vaporise the craft? The temperatures reached would have been millions of degrees - I reckon just like the multiple tumblers there is probably more than one Batwing, however like I said before you'd have to be a brave bastard to just try your luck on something which flies (as opposed to a Tumbler which is just a bad-ass car).

well yes perhaps, but as I also said above, it's a neutron bomb. Now if I remember correctly from physics at school (now I may well be wrong, it was a long time ago ), Neutron bombs are designed to be much less destructive to buildings, weapons and other infrastructure, whilst still being just as deadly to humans and other organic life due to the higher levels of radiation they produce.

Therefore if Bruce and the Bat flew far enough away from the blast site for Bruce to survive, then most of the Bat would also remain intact.

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I dont remember seeing two, It could be an unfinished Bat ? But that still wouldn't make it a plot hole as it would be inoperable.

In fairness, Fox says "it does come in black" so I suppose an over-literal viewer might have assumed there was a metallic grey one AND a separate black one.

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However obviously Dark Knight Rises doesn't have any plot holes, so it's safe to assume that there was always just one Bat.

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ORIGINAL: Fluke Skywalker

Thing is wouldn't an explosion of that magnitude just vaporise the craft? The temperatures reached would have been millions of degrees - I reckon just like the multiple tumblers there is probably more than one Batwing, however like I said before you'd have to be a brave bastard to just try your luck on something which flies (as opposed to a Tumbler which is just a bad-ass car).

well yes perhaps, but as I also said above, it's a neutron bomb. Now if I remember correctly from physics at school (now I may well be wrong, it was a long time ago ), Neutron bombs are designed to be much less destructive to buildings, weapons and other infrastructure, whilst still being just as deadly to humans and other organic life due to the higher levels of radiation they produce.

Therefore if Bruce and the Bat flew far enough away from the blast site for Bruce to survive, then most of the Bat would also remain intact.

Less destructive, not "not destructive at all." I remember asking my physics teacher about this at school, and he told me that neutron bombs, while relatively low-yield as nukes, would still have quite a blast radius. I always assumed that musta been a neutron bomb that went off at the end of Predator and that's why Arnie survives being in such close proximity to a nuclear blast. Er... only to die horribly of radiation sickness two weeks later. Neutron bombs are notoriously dirty weapons.

My physics teacher looked like Jasper Carrott, BTW.

[SPOILER!] I'd still like to know where that mushroom cloud came from at the end of The Dark Knight Rises if that nuke airburst over water. Ah'm tellin' yez, ah could nitpick fer Britain at the next Olympics!

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ORIGINAL: jackcarlin18

The film is suberb but when you pay valuable money and get up at 4 in the morning to watch a film about batman, you expect the film to involve batman 90% of the time, not 10% ...

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'd still like to know where that mushroom cloud came from at the end of The Dark Knight Rises if that nuke airburst over water.

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ORIGINAL: cerebusboy

This is pretty cool - every Batmobile (including the comics) ever!

http://www.geekologie.com/image.php?path=/2011/01/07/batmobile-evolution-full.jpg

That is really cool cheers

It is strangely quiet - I think people were tuning in for the C.D.T.S saga

DC have tried to do comics about GCPD but they've never been that popular...maybe the secret would be a story about them trapped underground! They could do a crossover with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!

GCPD could make a great TV spinoff, though. Have there not been rumours to that effect...?

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ORIGINAL: Fluke Skywalker

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ORIGINAL: cerebusboy

This is pretty cool - every Batmobile (including the comics) ever!

http://www.geekologie.com/image.php?path=/2011/01/07/batmobile-evolution-full.jpg

That is really cool cheers

It is strangely quiet - I think people were tuning in for the C.D.T.S saga

DC have tried to do comics about GCPD but they've never been that popular...maybe the secret would be a story about them trapped underground! They could do a crossover with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!

GCPD could make a great TV spinoff, though. Have there not been rumours to that effect...?

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ORIGINAL: cerebusboy


This is pretty cool - every Batmobile (including the comics) ever!

http://www.geekologie.com/image.php?path=/2011/01/07/batmobile-evolution-full.jpg

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ORIGINAL: cerebusboy


This is pretty cool - every Batmobile (including the comics) ever!

http://www.geekologie.com/image.php?path=/2011/01/07/batmobile-evolution-full.jpg

They forgot the tank from "The Dark Knight Returns"... (should be mid 80s).

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ORIGINAL: Ryan_D_Bell

I was simultaneously impressed and dissappointed by this film which confuses me. People ask me what it was like and I say "It's great, but I didn't like it that much". It's top drawer, but clunky. It has great character pieces, but old favourites are quickly brushed by. It has jaw dropping twists, but is predictable. I don't know whether to give 5 stars or 3. 4 then.

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ORIGINAL: Dirk Miggler

I dont remember seeing two, It could be an unfinished Bat ? But that still wouldn't make it a plot hole as it would be inoperable.

In fairness, Fox says "it does come in black" so I suppose an over-literal viewer might have assumed there was a metallic grey one AND a separate black one.

Not anyone round 'ere then.

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It's funny cos it's true.

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ORIGINAL: princessa

i really enjoyed this. Loved the action sequences. Although i feel there were way too many supporting characters - Gordan Levitt, Catwoman, Matthew Modine, Mariam Cottiard...

It would have worked better with fewer supporting cast. I loved Anne Hathaway as Catwoman i am not sure she was necessary; neither was Mariam who was hardly in it.

Still it was a good movie even though i didn't enjoy some of the plot twists.

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ORIGINAL: BatSpider

Saw it last night only on account of there being nothing else at the cinema. I dislike Nolan's entire output, but tried to keep an open mind. And still ended up thinking it sucks the big one. Nolan may be good at throwing layers of shit on top of shit to disguise how deeply ponderous his movies are, but he wouldn't know style if it bit him on the a$$. True passion needs a lighter touch, not the stale cheese Nolan's been shoving down our throats. Some of us can see through it. He and his gimp-voiced Batman can fuck off now, and stay fucked off.