horribleives
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Well most of them are young men - given half the chance young men can be quite moronic. But I'd hazard a guess plenty of young cricketers and rugby players are too.
Perhaps, though at the very least other sports tend to give more of an impression of attempting to hold their sports people to a higher standard. Footballers are given a very long rope it seems to me. Some years ago a mate of mine used to work for a PL club and he had to step in at the cinema once when one of their reserve team players refused to pay for a cinema ticket, trotting out the whole "Don't you know who I am, I play for X?!". My mate ended up paying for the ticket for him, despite the player earning however many thousands a month for doing pretty much bugger all. He's still a PL player today, incidentally.
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It was more the point put forward (both in this thread and in the press) that the Terry/Ferdinand case is symptomatic of an ugliness within the whole game, that it proves once and for all that they're all morons (or twats, or thugs, or everything that is wrong with society) that gets my goat.
I get your point, though I find it hard to deny that (English) football is a very ugly game in almost every way these days. It's actually become almost an effort to be enthusiastic about it, like having to be nice to that family member you don't really like. It's not all down to the players of course, but they certainly don't help.
Hmm, dunno about that. If you think of all the diving, cheating, fighting, corruption, match-fixing, betting scandals, hooliganism and racism that still goes on throughout the rest of europe, our league looks quite tame in comparison and has certainly made more of an effort to get its house in order in relation to some of the things listed above. I agree there's an ugliness in terms of greed and lack of loyalty but I wouldn't say that's a specifically english thing and the other bad side which I think you were alluding to (avaricious agents/owners/chairmen, Sky and the Premiership's blatant disregard for fans in their pursuit of money) is, as you say, nothing to do with the players.
With regards to that anecdote about the reserve at the cinema, I couldn't agree more that that kind of footballer exists and I've met and seen plenty over the years who displayed a similarly egotistical attitude. But it annoys me when people think this is the only kind of professional out there and (while I can only speak from my own experiences and those of people I know) anyone who's visited Newcastle's training ground over the last year or so and seen how open and friendly most of the players are with fans would testify that the idea that they're all pampered, spoilt rich cunts is nothing more than a myth, fuelled in no small part by a football media which loves to dump on its own sport.
< Message edited by horribleives -- 16/7/2012 1:55:13 PM >
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