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RE: 3D Theory applied to R-Rating - 4/7/2012 12:51:40 PM

st3veebee

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I'm presuming this two edit system would only be for certain films? Horror films of a strong nature would hardly be edited, only films that have a younger audience that can't get into them and, more importantly, would be happy enough to see an edited version.

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RE: 3D Theory applied to R-Rating - 4/7/2012 12:54:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: elab49
For more complex and mature films, themes will be so ingrained I'd have thought those kind of cuts must be more difficult, if not impossible?

I for one would like to see the PG version of Tyrannosaur, in which Peter Mullan and Olivia Colman bond over her husband's decision to never let her hold the remote control. The scene where he wags his finger in front of his neighbour's dog, while telling the neighbour the morally right thing to do will be a stand out scene.

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RE: 3D Theory applied to R-Rating - 4/7/2012 12:54:33 PM

adambatman82

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Maybe the premium� should be for the PG13

If a film was made as an R, that is how it was meant to be seen. A PG13 version is an edited down one for da children, and as such is in fact the alternative cut. Charge more for that I say.

So you'd be paying more for less movie?

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RE: 3D Theory applied to R-Rating - 4/7/2012 12:56:55 PM

elab49

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ORIGINAL: st3veebee

I'm presuming this two edit system would only be for certain films? Horror films of a strong nature would hardly be edited, only films that have a younger audience that can't get into them and, more importantly, would be happy enough to see an edited version.

Because for kids who want to sneak into older showings there isn't much cachet in going legit with the kiddy versions.

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RE: 3D Theory applied to R-Rating - 4/7/2012 1:33:23 PM

Rgirvan44

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ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

Maybe the premium should be for the PG13

If a film was made as an R, that is how it was meant to be seen. A PG13 version is an edited down one for da children, and as such is in fact the alternative cut. Charge more for that I say.

So you'd be paying more for less movie?

Well I don't see how it is fair for someone to pay more to see the film as it was suppose to be. And remember it might not mean the movie is longer is shorter. The bad bits could have been removed digitally for instance.

If someone wants to see a compromised version of the film, then why shouldn't they pay more? That should be the premimum service, not the other way around. But alas it is not to be...

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RE: 3D Theory applied to R-Rating - 4/7/2012 1:36:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: elab49
For more complex and mature films, themes will be so ingrained I'd have thought those kind of cuts must be more difficult, if not impossible?

I for one would like to see the PG version of Tyrannosaur, in which Peter Mullan and Olivia Colman bond over her husband's decision to never let her hold the remote control. The scene where he wags his finger in front of his neighbour's dog, while telling the neighbour the morally right thing to do will be a stand out scene.

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RE: 3D Theory applied to R-Rating - 4/7/2012 2:49:34 PM

FoximusPrime

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Precisely. As Elab pointed out, this really can't apply to proper grown up movies, but for the AvPs, Resident Evils, Expendables and all those sorts of things, we tend to get 15 rated movies for what really ought to be 18 rated movies. As I say, I'd happily pay a few quid more and not have the "lite" version.

The issue would seem to boil down to quality and the question, "how best to sell our steaming pile of shit to the largest possible audience?" rather than, "which is the best possible version of this film that we can make, regardless of target audience?"

Obviously, studios are businesses but, if they just keep churning out the same old "halfway house" shite, eventually even the most idiotic audience member will tire of it (surely?). Two (theatrical) version would just dilute the "product", which any suit knows isn't viable in the long run. Unless it's a franchise about a tough talking homeopath.

The answer is most definitely not to fleece people even more for the chance to see the "intended" cut, it is to simply make a complete film in the first place that possesses such quality that it would make up the feared shortfall from excluding a younger audience.

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RE: 3D Theory applied to R-Rating - 4/7/2012 3:45:50 PM

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I've been a frequent advocate of studios releasing both versions of the film simultaneously (in the case of R films that have been cut that is, like Die Hard 4.0, EX etc) as they already do it on dvd. The issue is whether or not they should charge more in which I say no, just give the customer the choice instead of choosing for them.

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RE: 3D Theory applied to R-Rating - 4/7/2012 4:00:19 PM

Hood_Man

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I think with the DVD and Blu Ray releases coming out so soon after the theatrical releases these days, I just don't see much of a point to this, and I imagine that rather than being greeted with enthusiasm like 3D was a few years ago (and still is I believe, even if it's a bit more muted these days), it would be greeted to the magnified and multiplied sound of "why?".

It's not really similar to 3D prices either since most people can only experience it at the cinema, whereas anyone with a DVD player could watch a different version of the film a few months down the line.

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