rawlinson
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Joined: 13/6/2008 From: Timbuktu. Chinese or Fictional.
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ORIGINAL: Evil_Bob and I had it more or less drafted in my head but then I realised that your opinion means nothing to me Rawlinson. It obviously does or you wouldn't have posted two responses. quote:
I came here to make a complaint about the actual review because this forum is the place where points about the online site are to be made. And if your complaint is groundless? quote:
I also hoped to potentially warn other people off who didn't want to have things ruined for them. Here's where I'm confused, if you really were just trying to warn people, then why isn't an alternate perspective on the review welcomed? Why did the toys get hurled from the pram the moment you were told you might be misinterpreting the review and that it might not be a huge spoiler? I mean if this was an altruistic act on your part, surely the fact that other people might be safe to read the review would be something you'd be happy about? You sure you didn't just work yourself up into a rage, and are now a bit upset because that rage might not have been worth it, and you're just in a shoot the messenger frame of mind? quote:
And your "alternate viewpoint"? how can you have an alternate viewpoint to a movie that you havn't seen. How can you have a viewpoint on a movie you haven't seen? quote:
You can't alter your preconceptions like that especially when you've been told explicitly that THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE FILM. All reviews tell you about something that happens in the film. You're just assuming this is a major spoiler. quote:
There is no alternate viewpoint. A crucial detail has been revealed. You don't know if it's crucial. quote:
. Nothing short of actually rewriting and reshooting the movie is going to change that and the fact that I'm far from the only person to complain about this would indicate that it was a mistake to do so. You mean all the people assuming that the end of the film was spoiled? Because that's stated several times in the review thread "WHYHAVEYOUSPOILEDTHEENDOFTHEFILM!!!!! quote:
Where it takes place in a movie is irrelvant and the fact that rom/coms tend to have a standard formula is irrelevant too. Actually it's completely relevant. If you read a review of Groundhog Day that points out Phil gets caught in a time loop, would you complain? I mean it could go either way, he could be caught in it at the beginning of the film, and that's what drives the plot, or it could be a surprise where you only find out what's happening as part of a plot twist. You don't know until you've actually seen the film for yourself. Same goes for this film. The alleged spoiler is something that could drive much of the plot, not something that ruins the film. The spoiler could happen twenty minutes in. All reviews reveal something of a film. If you don't want any details at all revealed, don't read reviews before you see the film. quote:
So like I said Rawlinson your opinion matters not a bit to me because you are but another random punter that uses this site. like myself. And as such, I have every right to reply to anyone I choose, on any thread I choose. It's not my fault you don't like having your anger questioned. quote:
elab49 on the other hand is the equivalent of a manager in a shop who says "you don't like it? tough" when you walk in with a legitimate concern. You may not work for Empire but being a moderator on these forums you do represent them to a certain degree so antagonising and exacerbating people's outrage makes the magazine look bad. I see nothing at all antagonising in her posts. Or in my posts for that matter. In fact, if you really feel you have something to complain about, go back to the original posts, before you started talking about the peace corps, and point out something antagonistic in any of the posts. Not someone offering a different interpretation to you, something that actually was antagonistic. quote:
Acknowledge and apologise. If you can't do any of those things then say nothing. Acknowledge and apologise for what? For having a different interpretation of the review to you? You could always just step back, reread the initial posts, and realise that nobody has anything to apologise for. A forum means debate, whether you like that or not. If you want to be able to post something without the risk of anyone thinking you're wrong, start a blog and close off the comments. quote:
My response was absurd but it was a means of taking out my ire out in the manner of a hyperbolic absurdist rant directed insultingly at no one. So who were you addressing it to then? Because you said things like "your" meaning somebody had done something to get that response from you. If you weren't directing it at anyone, why bother with that? quote:
It might mislead people into thinking there's something there that isn't (if that is the case) but it might also stop people reading the review full stop and will therefore stop those people from entering this conundrum that we have found ourselves in. So if that line in the review is in fact referring to a scene mid-film, and in no way a major plot spoiler, will you then apologise to all those you misled with this thread?
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ORIGINAL: matty_b I would plough my way through MonsterCat    quote:
ORIGINAL: matty_b I desire MonsterCat to go down on me.
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