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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 21/6/2012 10:48:18 PM   
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This would be the "lady" who physically assaulted a black women in a nightclub toilet because she wouldn't give her a lollipop?


Would it be in poor taste to make a I've got something Cheryl can suck on quip here?

No joking aside, I agree about Cole. I don't like the man but he's by far and wide England's most consistent player, he's the rare commodity of his performances for his country matching those of his club, unlike the likes of Rooney, Lampard and Milner. Gerrard has really impressed me so far this tournament, as have Parker, Hart and Young, so far the five stand-out players for me.

The rest have been distinctly indifferent which is what, if we'd all been completely honest with ourselves, we should have expected.


Really? He was better against Ukraine and made a couple of great crosses but of all the players who've started every game I'd say it's a toss-up betwen him and Milner over he's been the worst.



I agree, Young has been crap. Haven't though much of Parker either, I'd say Terry has been more impressive than him.

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 22/6/2012 12:05:37 AM   
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I just hope he bags his England goal soon.


Winning goal in the final vs Spain.

He'd deserve it more than any player.


Gotta get past the Italians and Germans first.

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 22/6/2012 12:06:40 AM   
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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 22/6/2012 12:07:19 AM   
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In the same league as Paolo Maldini - one of the best left backs of all time


Yeah, really not.



Indeed, Ashley Cole will not be remembered 10 years after he quits, Maldini will be remembered for decades to come.

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 22/6/2012 12:27:06 AM   
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In the same league as Paolo Maldini - one of the best left backs of all time


Yeah, really not.



Indeed, Ashley Cole will not be remembered 10 years after he quits, Maldini will be remembered for decades to come.

Perhaps not by you but he will be by anyone who's watched the Premier League or the CL for the past 20 years.

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 22/6/2012 9:27:31 AM   
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In the same league as Paolo Maldini - one of the best left backs of all time


Yeah, really not.



Indeed, Ashley Cole will not be remembered 10 years after he quits, Maldini will be remembered for decades to come.


I don't agree. I think in 10 years time, if we are all still here discussing England Cole will still be spoken about as one of the best players we've had.



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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 22/6/2012 11:00:08 AM   
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I agree Cole will be remebered and rightly so, his club record and level of success has been unbelievable. The problem is though he's played for a team of so-called underachievers for the last 8 years at international level. Personally I never thought we were ever on the same level, as the France, Brazil, Italy and Spain's of this world, bur on a good night we could match anyone, problem was the nation went nuts after the 5-1 Germany win thinking England were world beaters when in fact we had a good night but against a poor team.

Finally the nations starting realise that we aren't that good and starting to get behind the team again regardless of the way we play.

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 22/6/2012 11:07:06 AM   
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Finally the nations starting realise that we aren't that good and starting to get behind the team again regardless of the way we play.


This.


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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 22/6/2012 5:42:54 PM   
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Finally the nations starting realise that we aren't that good and starting to get behind the team again regardless of the way we play.


This.



I don't agree, I think the nation realised we weren't that good a long, long time ago.

And as for Cole not being remembered in 10 years, utter rubbish. Football fans don't forget great players, ever.

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 1:04:20 AM   
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In the same league as Paolo Maldini - one of the best left backs of all time


Yeah, really not.



Indeed, Ashley Cole will not be remembered 10 years after he quits, Maldini will be remembered for decades to come.

Perhaps not by you but he will be by anyone who's watched the Premier League or the CL for the past 20 years.


Lol I have watched the PL and CL for over twenty years and he doesnt stick out for me as one of the games all time greats; he's good, but not great.

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 1:06:09 AM   
Saltire


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Finally the nations starting realise that we aren't that good and starting to get behind the team again regardless of the way we play.


This.



I don't agree, I think the nation realised we weren't that good a long, long time ago.

And as for Cole not being remembered in 10 years, utter rubbish. Football fans don't forget great players, ever.


Hehe a lot of football fans cant even tell you the day of week it is let alone remember great players

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 9:42:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Saltire


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ORIGINAL: Keyser Sozzled


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ORIGINAL: Fluke Skywalker

In the same league as Paolo Maldini - one of the best left backs of all time


Yeah, really not.



Indeed, Ashley Cole will not be remembered 10 years after he quits, Maldini will be remembered for decades to come.

Perhaps not by you but he will be by anyone who's watched the Premier League or the CL for the past 20 years.


Lol I have watched the PL and CL for over twenty years and he doesnt stick out for me as one of the games all time greats; he's good, but not great.


Well you can live in your own bubble of Ashley-hate and ignore every journalist, manager, fan and pundit who regard him as a one of the finest English defenders of all time

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 9:53:33 AM   
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Anyone would have thought that there was a petty nationalistic reason for Salty to be raining down the hate.

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 9:55:43 AM   
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I was thinking the same thing

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 10:49:06 AM   
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I know, it's almost as if he comes from a country where some of the football fans are so bitter about the english they'll be wearing Italy shirts tomorow night...
I'd also love to know which Premier League and Champions League he's been watching for the last twenty years as it sure as shit isn't the same one as me - forget about ten years time, Cole already is considered one of the game's greats.

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 12:04:18 PM   
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Ah, give Saltire a break. Trolling the English is the only thing some Scottish footy fans get to enjoy. Especially when international tournaments are on.

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 12:17:24 PM   
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Ah, give Saltire a break. Trolling the English is the only thing some Scottish footy fans get to enjoy. Especially when international tournaments are on.


No, they'll be they'll be there next time apparently, seeing as 32 teams get to go.
But won't that mean finishing top 2 in qualifying?

Although that's the next Euros mind, not the world cup.



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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 1:24:30 PM   
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Ah, give Saltire a break. Trolling the English is the only thing some Scottish footy fans get to enjoy. Especially when international tournaments are on.


No, they'll be they'll be there next time apparently, seeing as 32 teams get to go.
But won't that mean finishing top 2 in qualifying?

Although that's the next Euros mind, not the world cup.




32? Jesus, I thought it was 24 teams. I don't know how they're going to do qualifying, though I hope England get Russia with a 6-point deduction in their group

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 1:28:29 PM   
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32 teams? Fuck, I thought 24 was gonna ruin it but 32's taking the piss.

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 1:30:05 PM   
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32 teams? Fuck, I thought 24 was gonna ruin it but 32's taking the piss.


Sorry my bad they are going to 24, although I always had the argument that 16 teams should have made it the toughest to win due to the quality. This tournament has disproves it so far.


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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 6:00:35 PM   
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Anyone would have thought that there was a petty nationalistic reason for Salty to be raining down the hate.


Hate? Wheres the hate exactly, I am merely stating the fact I dont think he is one of the all time great full backs and because I am not agreeing with you all, its hate-fuelled?

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 6:05:24 PM   
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I know, it's almost as if he comes from a country where some of the football fans are so bitter about the english they'll be wearing Italy shirts tomorow night...
I'd also love to know which Premier League and Champions League he's been watching for the last twenty years as it sure as shit isn't the same one as me - forget about ten years time, Cole already is considered one of the game's greats.


I will be for two reasons, the first isn't because we are 'bitter', its just we're fed up of the tripe that gets spouted about the England team after they beat a couple of average sides unconvincingly then they are then destined to 'do a Chelsea' and win the whole tourney. Then theres the fact that hardly anything else gets reported about when the sports news is on, even on the days when other teams are playing - its incredibly tiresome - no wonder the rest of us cant wait for them to get eliminated.

Secondly I'll be supporting them as my brother-in-law is Italian so have a soft spot for them anyway, even though they are dire to watch too!!

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 6:10:50 PM   
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Ah, give Saltire a break. Trolling the English is the only thing some Scottish footy fans get to enjoy. Especially when international tournaments are on.


No, they'll be they'll be there next time apparently, seeing as 32 teams get to go.
But won't that mean finishing top 2 in qualifying?

Although that's the next Euros mind, not the world cup.




Thats the difference though, for us to get to a tournament would be a great achievement for us and we'd be happy with that. The way some of you guys carry on, you think England are Brazil and should be competing in semi finals and finals every tourney you get to because you have Wayne Rooney or Ashley Cole!!!

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 6:18:51 PM   
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No, they'll be they'll be there next time apparently, seeing as 32 teams get to go.
But won't that mean finishing top 2 in qualifying?

Although that's the next Euros mind, not the world cup.




No we won't. We're mince. Let us be petty and poke fun at you in the meantime. It's a kind of national hobby during major tournaments. I try to kid on I'm indifferent about how you do, but I'm not. I like seeing England lose at football, sad as that sounds to you all. Only football mind. Well maybe rugby too. Don't mind anything else. I think what annoys us more is that the bitterness isn't really reciprocated and you see Germany/Argentina/France as rivals. To be expected though as you compete with them more than you'll ever compete with us.

Back on topic....Ashley Cole, cretin though he is, has prob been the most consistent left back in the world in the past 10 years. Certainly the best England left back in my lifetime (I'm 31).....I was a great fan of Neville too (and of his punditry incidentally) so yeah, as full backs go you've been pretty well equipped the past 15 years.

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 6:29:34 PM   
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I was going to do an ode to Ashley Cole, but hey, I'm not creative enough to write ode's.

So apparently Ashley Cole is now Englands most capped tournament player, now there's been times when I, like a lot of other people has said some 'orrible things about 'orrible, money grabbing Ashley Cole, but I now realise I was wrong. I was wrong to think he was a prick for shaking in near vomiting anger at the lack of a decent weeks wage from Arsenal, or for having a secret meeting with Chelsea.

Wrong for thinking he was a twat for shooting a youth player with an air gun. Let's face it, the kid probably deserved it. I never gave a shit about his relationship with nations sweetheart, or that he took nude pictures of himself in a hotel room.

For Ashley Cole is simply Englands finest, most consistent player of 'his (golden) generation' and will one day probably be looked at as one of Englands finest ever players.

Ashley Cole, world class player, and lovable rogue. I salute you. You lovely, mean spirited bastard








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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 6:40:50 PM   
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Thats the difference though, for us to get to a tournament would be a great achievement for us and we'd be happy with that. The way some of you guys carry on, you think England are Brazil and should be competing in semi finals and finals every tourney you get to because you have Wayne Rooney or Ashley Cole!!!


This really isn't true since SA though is it?

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 6:50:55 PM   
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Thats the difference though, for us to get to a tournament would be a great achievement for us and we'd be happy with that. The way some of you guys carry on, you think England are Brazil and should be competing in semi finals and finals every tourney you get to because you have Wayne Rooney or Ashley Cole!!!


This really isn't true since SA though is it?


Isn't it? Now you've got through that group, your gonna beat Italy, Germany and Spain no problem, thats what I've been hearing.

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 6:52:01 PM   
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You know, we're trying pay tribute to a sweet natured young man, and you have to go and spoil it by bringing posting a gif of a violent thug. Shame on you..

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 6:54:34 PM   
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Thats the difference though, for us to get to a tournament would be a great achievement for us and we'd be happy with that. The way some of you guys carry on, you think England are Brazil and should be competing in semi finals and finals every tourney you get to because you have Wayne Rooney or Ashley Cole!!!


This really isn't true since SA though is it?


Isn't it? Now you've got through that group, your gonna beat Italy, Germany and Spain no problem, thats what I've been hearing.


From who exactly?

They are right though, we dominated the group. The Italians will be put to the sword and then we'll show Ze Germans how real football is played before beating Spain again with Cole grabbing the winner. Name. On. The. Trophy.

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RE: There's only one Ashley Cole.. - 23/6/2012 6:54:51 PM   
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Thats the difference though, for us to get to a tournament would be a great achievement for us and we'd be happy with that. The way some of you guys carry on, you think England are Brazil and should be competing in semi finals and finals every tourney you get to because you have Wayne Rooney or Ashley Cole!!!


This really isn't true since SA though is it?


Isn't it? Now you've got through that group, your gonna beat Italy, Germany and Spain no problem, thats what I've been hearing.


From who?

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