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Franchises that change genres - 8/6/2012 5:47:36 PM   
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Batman: Burtons were Action/si fi, middle lot were adventure, nolans lot are thrillers/dramas

007: up to dalton action/adventure, Dalton was Drama, Brosnan was action adventure, Craig thriller/drama

The hulk: banner was Drama, nortons was action

star wars: prequels are si fi/adventure/childrens, episode IV was sifi/adventure, ESB was Drama/si fi, ROTJ was si fi/ adventure/childrens

if this thread is remotely interesting to anyone please add :)





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RE: Franchises that change genres - 8/6/2012 5:54:11 PM   
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I wouldn't really class any of these as a change in genre, more a change in tone.

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RE: Franchises that change genres - 8/6/2012 6:06:02 PM   
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I wouldn't really class any of these as a change in genre, more a change in tone.


This.

Are there any genuine examples of something veering wildly off course in a sequel?

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RE: Franchises that change genres - 8/6/2012 6:12:24 PM   
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RE: Franchises that change genres - 8/6/2012 6:35:57 PM   
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RE: Franchises that change genres - 8/6/2012 8:27:05 PM   
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RE: Franchises that change genres - 8/6/2012 8:36:51 PM   
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Cars - nostalgic look at 50s America alongside a lesson in appreciating life.

Cars 2 - ACTION SPY ADVENTURE PSCHEDELIC CRAZINESS.





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RE: Franchises that change genres - 8/6/2012 8:38:32 PM   
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 We can lock the thread now. homer mentioned Cars 2, nothing more bizarre will exist.

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RE: Franchises that change genres - 8/6/2012 8:49:47 PM   
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Cars - nostalgic look at 50s America alongside a lesson in appreciating life.

Cars 2 - ACTION SPY ADVENTURE PSCHEDELIC CRAZINESS.






Like intentional errors in a fake Rembrandt, I put these occasional typos in for people to spot and realise that, actually, even pedants are human. We are not gods, however much you may be forgiven for thinking as much.

Well done. You get a biscuit.




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RE: Franchises that change genres - 8/6/2012 9:11:58 PM   
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Cars - nostalgic look at 50s America alongside a lesson in appreciating life.

Cars 2 - ACTION SPY ADVENTURE PSCHEDELIC CRAZINESS.






Like intentional errors in a fake Rembrandt, I put these occasional typos in for people to spot and realise that, actually, even pedants are human. We are not gods, however much you may be forgiven for thinking as much.

Well done. You get a biscuit.





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I wouldn't really class any of these as a change in genre, more a change in tone.


Gotta agree with this.


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RE: Franchises that change genres - 8/6/2012 10:17:08 PM   
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As already mentioned, 'Cars' is probably the strongest example of a change in genre between films.

Evil Dead trilogy- started with a horror film with a little comedy and ended with a comedy that had tiny bit of horror.

Lethal Weapon- from dark thriller to wacky comedy.

Alien- alternates between subtle horror and balls off the wall action.


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RE: Franchises that change genres - 9/6/2012 12:31:41 AM   
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 The Jaws films - the first was a horror/thriller classic, the others were all spoofs of the first one.
Nightmare on Elm St movies - the first was a horror classic, by the time we get to part 5 and 6 its pure comedy.
The Rocky series - the first is a gritty drama, the fourth is a polished 80's music video, the sixth is back to being a gritty drama. So the series comes full circle.



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RE: Franchises that change genres - 9/6/2012 2:11:52 AM   
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The Jaws films - the first was a horror/thriller classic, the others were all spoofs of the first one.
Nightmare on Elm St movies - the first was a horror classic, by the time we get to part 5 and 6 its pure comedy.



The second Jaws is pretty good as a straight-up thriller and so is Wes Craven's New Nightmare.

The Child's Play franchise went to full-on horror-comedy with Bride of Chucky and then worse with Seed.

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RE: Franchises that change genres - 9/6/2012 3:33:54 AM   
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 Gremlins. The first was a horror/fantasy with a splash of humour. The 2nd was a full on comedy spoof of the 1st that even broke the 4th wall.

Wizard of Oz was a fantasy musical, Return to Oz was a rather disturbing children's fantasy/horror.

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RE: Franchises that change genres - 9/6/2012 3:37:16 AM   
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^ two great examples there.

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RE: Franchises that change genres - 9/6/2012 3:52:03 AM   
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 What about Kill Bill? The whole East/West thing.

The big, massive, mega, phuck-off Western montage in Back to the Future III?

Is a film set in the West a Western?

Does Leone's 2nd trilogy count. Duck You Sucker, Once Upon a Time in the West and Once Upon a Time in America? Is a film with gangsters in it a gangster film?

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RE: Franchises that change genres - 9/6/2012 3:56:00 AM   
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 Does a shift in tone really explain the differences between First Blood and the last Rambo film? Or those between Rocky and the propaganda-fest of Rocky IV?

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RE: Franchises that change genres - 9/6/2012 3:56:09 AM   
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The Rocky series - the first is a gritty drama, the fourth is a polished 80's music video, the sixth is back to being a gritty drama. So the series comes full circle.


As with Rambo. They even use the phrase "full circle" in the movie.

All that said, we're just pretending to be grown up and serious when we say that Rocky is the best of the series. Everyone knows that Rocky III and Rocky IV are the best ones. I must break you and pity the fool that disagrees.



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RE: Franchises that change genres - 9/6/2012 3:59:34 AM   
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All that said, we're just pretending to be grown up and serious when we say that Rocky is the best of the series. Everyone knows that Rocky III and Rocky IV are the best ones. I must break you and pity the fool that disagrees.



Quit your jibber jabber. III rules all. Mr. T rules all.


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RE: Franchises that change genres - 9/6/2012 4:03:06 AM   
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All that said, we're just pretending to be grown up and serious when we say that Rocky is the best of the series. Everyone knows that Rocky III and Rocky IV are the best ones. I must break you and pity the fool that disagrees.



Quit your jibber jabber. III rules all. Mr. T rules all.



Personally IV is the best of the Rocky's all though III is pretty close.

I miss a certain forumite that would've killed on this topic.

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RE: Franchises that change genres - 9/6/2012 8:34:47 AM   
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Does a shift in tone really explain the differences between First Blood and the last Rambo film?


I think the remark about tone was directed towards the examples provided in the first post, which were shit - as examples.

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Gremlins. The first was a horror/fantasy with a splash of humour. The 2nd was a full on comedy spoof of the 1st that even broke the 4th wall.



There was more than a splash of humour in the first Gremlins, it was just darker. While the sequel took the parody to the extreme I wouldn't consider it a change of genre.

And the first Rocky is the best. The best acted, best written, best directed. But the best sequel is definitely Rocky III. The clumsy, jingoistic political nonsense in IV is just crap.

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RE: Franchises that change genres - 9/6/2012 11:41:53 AM   
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some loose e.g's

Star Trek I - 2001 style SF
Star Trek II - SF action/horror

Alien - SF horror/slasher
Alien - SF action/war
Prometheus - SF horror/2001 style

T1 - SF horror
T2/T3 - SF action
T4 - SF post apocalyptic Mad Max style

Mad Max 1 - futuristic revenge thriller
Mad Max 2/3 - post apocalyptic western

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RE: Franchises that change genres - 11/6/2012 9:38:23 PM   
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 The Bourne Movies. James Bond had to change his entire get up just to attempt to compete with the great (and forgetful) assassin.

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RE: Franchises that change genres - 11/6/2012 10:08:59 PM   
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RE: Franchises that change genres - 12/6/2012 12:41:04 AM   
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The Bourne Movies. James Bond had to change his entire get up just to attempt to compete with the great (and forgetful) assassin.


Not sure how this makes sense.

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RE: Franchises that change genres - 12/6/2012 8:41:40 AM   
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The Bourne Movies. James Bond had to change his entire get up just to attempt to compete with the great (and forgetful) assassin.


Not sure how this makes sense.


Yeah, Bond may change tone and shift gears but a genre change? No way.

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RE: Franchises that change genres - 12/6/2012 10:15:23 AM   
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The Bourne Movies. James Bond had to change his entire get up just to attempt to compete with the great (and forgetful) assassin.



craig's bonds are more down to earth like FRWL or the 80s moore bonds like FYEO and OP.

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RE: Franchises that change genres - 12/6/2012 10:35:03 AM   
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RE: Franchises that change genres - 13/6/2012 7:10:45 AM   
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I think the remark about tone was directed towards the examples provided in the first post, which were shit - as examples.





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RE: Franchises that change genres - 14/6/2012 1:14:47 AM   
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I may be talking crap and its not a different genre but Raiders of the Lost Ark is a more serious film than The Last Crusade, right? Marcus for example unlike ROTLA is a fucking idiot in TLC and Sallah is a bit as well, there's more humour and a lot of mildly stupid scenes between Indy and his Dad.

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