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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 18/3/2013 10:02:17 PM   
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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 18/3/2013 10:08:57 PM   
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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 19/3/2013 11:44:13 AM   
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Red card every day of the week!


It really is horrible, although clean as a whistle according to Dave Whelan, although he has a history of talking shit.

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 19/3/2013 11:46:48 AM   
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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 19/3/2013 12:39:30 PM   
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Red card every day of the week!


It really is horrible, although clean as a whistle according to Dave Whelan, although he has a history of talking shit.


That is fucking despicable. How that fucker didn't get red carded and strung up by his balls, i will never know.

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 19/3/2013 1:16:02 PM   
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Fair enough, you've got issues with Pardew but what he did or said 5 or 6 years ago has got bugger all to do with what happened on sunday - different club, totally different staff, and Pardew wasn't even involved so this 'you can always rely on Pardew et al to act like knobs' stuff isn't entirely accurate. And if there's a manager out there who doesn't have a smidgen of egotism in him I'm yet to see him.
As for the scuffle, fair enough Carver was shouting at McManaman, but he certainly never went for him - it was the Wigan coach who raised his hands and started pushing people around (twice). Carver deserved the red for reacting but I think he's perfectly entitled to have a word with someone who's just crippled one of his players. Though as I said elsewhere, it's not even McManaman I've got the biggest beef with - he's a young lad who, for whatever reason, badly misjudged a tackle, but let's be honest, plenty of players have - it's the useless officials, Martinez and that stupid old bastard Whelan who are boiling my piss.


Well it does to me because that's the character he's always represented to me as a football fan, and it doesn't just come from his days as Charlton manager either, he was like that at West Ham and had plenty of falling-outs at Southampton too, resulting in him losing his job there when they were in a very good position in the league. I don't think Carver's behaviour was at all professional and that's why he's been sent off, it created a scuffle and I'm tired of seeing these things happening in football but I agree about Martinez's comments, they were disgraceful and utterly ridiculous especially the bit about "a striker's tackle", utter rubbish, and as for the officials, well they should be suspended after that like the player is being but won't be, you can guarantee that.


Again, what has his behaviour at three other clubs got to do with an incident on sunday that he wasn't even slightly involved in?

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 19/3/2013 2:38:25 PM   
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Fair enough, you've got issues with Pardew but what he did or said 5 or 6 years ago has got bugger all to do with what happened on sunday - different club, totally different staff, and Pardew wasn't even involved so this 'you can always rely on Pardew et al to act like knobs' stuff isn't entirely accurate. And if there's a manager out there who doesn't have a smidgen of egotism in him I'm yet to see him.
As for the scuffle, fair enough Carver was shouting at McManaman, but he certainly never went for him - it was the Wigan coach who raised his hands and started pushing people around (twice). Carver deserved the red for reacting but I think he's perfectly entitled to have a word with someone who's just crippled one of his players. Though as I said elsewhere, it's not even McManaman I've got the biggest beef with - he's a young lad who, for whatever reason, badly misjudged a tackle, but let's be honest, plenty of players have - it's the useless officials, Martinez and that stupid old bastard Whelan who are boiling my piss.


Well it does to me because that's the character he's always represented to me as a football fan, and it doesn't just come from his days as Charlton manager either, he was like that at West Ham and had plenty of falling-outs at Southampton too, resulting in him losing his job there when they were in a very good position in the league. I don't think Carver's behaviour was at all professional and that's why he's been sent off, it created a scuffle and I'm tired of seeing these things happening in football but I agree about Martinez's comments, they were disgraceful and utterly ridiculous especially the bit about "a striker's tackle", utter rubbish, and as for the officials, well they should be suspended after that like the player is being but won't be, you can guarantee that.


Again, what has his behaviour at three other clubs got to do with an incident on sunday that he wasn't even slightly involved in?


Because I've seen this kind of behaviour from both himself, and his coaching staff before, so it doesn't surprise me. Maybe he needs to have a word in Carver's ear.

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 19/3/2013 3:36:40 PM   
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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 19/3/2013 3:37:48 PM   
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FA taking no further action....due to re-referring nonsense. And nothing to do with FIFA or UEFA which the FA hide behind, because their rules do allow such action.

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 19/3/2013 3:41:30 PM   
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Red card every day of the week!


It really is horrible, although clean as a whistle according to Dave Whelan, although he has a history of talking shit.


That is fucking despicable. How that fucker didn't get red carded and strung up by his balls, i will never know.



FA taking no further action....due to re-referring nonsense. And nothing to do with FIFA or UEFA which the FA hide behind, because their rules do allow such action.


Oh that stupid fucking rule about not following up with action due to the referee deciding against taking action in the game again is it? Do these plums not realize this is plays a part in forcing more criticism at the door of referees?

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 19/3/2013 3:45:27 PM   
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It's utter nonsense, especially as other countries do use retrospective punishment, as FIFA allows, but our football authorities refuse to sign up to it, it seems because there are so many conflicting interests involved.

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 19/3/2013 4:31:20 PM   
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FA taking no further action....due to re-referring nonsense. And nothing to do with FIFA or UEFA which the FA hide behind, because their rules do allow such action.


Yes its a complete nonsense. They say it is to avoid re-refereeing of incidents, but it is totally clear to any football fan that an incident like this needs re-refereeing.

Ashamed by the actions of Wigan too. I remember a couple of months ago when there was an incident with Fellaini (a headbutt against Stoke). I think in that case Moyes practically called for the player to be banned and told his dressing room that the action was unacceptable. I still think that a cynic can argue that Fellaini would have been banned and by admitting responsibility Moyes could have prevented a longer ban, but it still stands out as a case of the right thing being done whereas "plucky little Wigan" will now for many be "cheating fuckers, hope they go down Wigan".

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 19/3/2013 4:59:54 PM   
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It's been a while since the FA have dropped a clanger and this is a real one...incredible. Just hiding behind their desks and their rules. Ineptitude of the highest order...we get another reminder of their ineptitude again at Wembley again soon when we see all those empty seats right in front of the cameras.

EDIT: Apparently Zaha has been given a one match ban and a 3,000 fan for flicking the 'V' to Leeds fans...leg breakers are fine but naughty fingers are obviously not.

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 19/3/2013 6:29:02 PM   
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As a Toon fan im furious. Just heard an FA Lacky on Talksport explaining the ins and outs of how they came to todays ruling and to be honest its a blinkered set of rulings that cant take in different variables and events such as what went on at the Wigan game.

I just hope Haidara will play for us again.

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 26/3/2013 11:09:09 AM   
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So, Reading appoint Adkins.

I'm not saying this is a bad appointment, he did well at Southampton and imo was unlucky to be outed from the position. But it does seem very much to me like a straight substitution as I thought that McDermott did well at Reading and was unlucky to be outed from the position. Reading's next match but one is vs. Southampton, so that should be tasty.

I'm not really sure what Adkins wants to achieve from this. With Reading 7 points off safety and with only 8 games remaining, it seems a real outside chance that he will keep them up. In which case, he's pretty much admitting that he is a Championship manager and you just wonder if he should have sat at home for a couple of months and waited to see if anything else in the PL came up. Its hardly like he's moving to a safer position now.


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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 27/3/2013 10:45:57 PM   
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This is an interesting article on yesterday Suarez incident (yes another one):LINK
How did the Uruguayan press deal with this moment?,why, blame the British press of course.

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 27/3/2013 11:32:12 PM   
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He's just trying to hug him but somehow missed.

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 30/3/2013 9:48:51 PM   
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Sunderland have just sacked Martin O'Neill

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 30/3/2013 9:58:02 PM   
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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 30/3/2013 10:01:23 PM   
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Sunderland have just sacked Martin O'Neill

MON found out again. Spends a fortune, delivers fuck all.

No doubt the media will claim he was unlucky.

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 30/3/2013 10:14:09 PM   
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Sunderland have just sacked Martin O'Neill

MON found out again. Spends a fortune, delivers fuck all.

No doubt the media will claim he was unlucky.


Ain't that the truth!

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 30/3/2013 10:43:09 PM   
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I tell you what, I wouldn't be surprised if MON took over from Moyes at Everton at the start of next season.That's if Moyes does leave the toffees.

MON has always been over-hyped to a degree.

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 31/3/2013 9:59:33 PM   
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Sunderland have appointed Paolo Di Canio as manager on a two-year contract, which I don't think will greatly surprise anyone given they clearly had a successor already in place before they sacked O'Neill yesterday and PDC was the name out there.

Personally I think it's a very good appointment. My experience of Di Canio as a Charlton fan is he was a guy who fired everyone up, a fantastic player, a passionate leader and somebody who demanded 100%. Sure he's, shall we say, unorthodox and is not short of his critics for numerous reasons but he did a great job at Swindon, no-one can deny that and this is the step up he's been after. Good luck too him!

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 31/3/2013 10:12:32 PM   
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Sunderland have appointed Paolo Di Canio as manager on a two-year contract, which I don't think will greatly surprise anyone given they clearly had a successor already in place before they sacked O'Neill yesterday and PDC was the name out there.

Personally I think it's a very good appointment. My experience of Di Canio as a Charlton fan is he was a guy who fired everyone up, a fantastic player, a passionate leader and somebody who demanded 100%. Sure he's, shall we say, unorthodox and is not short of his critics for numerous reasons but he did a great job at Swindon, no-one can deny that and this is the step up he's been after. Good luck too him!

Yes he does come across as a lovely fascist.
But at least he's not a racist.


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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 31/3/2013 10:33:05 PM   
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Sunderland have appointed Paolo Di Canio as manager on a two-year contract, which I don't think will greatly surprise anyone given they clearly had a successor already in place before they sacked O'Neill yesterday and PDC was the name out there.

Personally I think it's a very good appointment. My experience of Di Canio as a Charlton fan is he was a guy who fired everyone up, a fantastic player, a passionate leader and somebody who demanded 100%. Sure he's, shall we say, unorthodox and is not short of his critics for numerous reasons but he did a great job at Swindon, no-one can deny that and this is the step up he's been after. Good luck too him!

Yes he does come across as a lovely fascist.
But at least he's not a racist.



I'm not even getting involved in any of that, I'm just talking from the standpoint of the job he did for us and the job he has done since going into football management.

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 31/3/2013 11:17:18 PM   
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Should we totally ignore that aspect because he did a half decent job?
For me, if he holds those beliefs he's a grade A1 bellend.

On the plus side away fans should be able to rely on the trains being punctual next season to the stadium of light.

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 31/3/2013 11:41:39 PM   
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Should we totally ignore that aspect because he did a half decent job?
For me, if he holds those beliefs he's a grade A1 bellend.

On the plus side away fans should be able to rely on the trains being punctual next season to the stadium of light.


I never said that, I just said I'm not interested in getting into it and to be honest I'm not greatly surprised you have this opinion of him anyway, it's pretty inevitable your going to hold him in the same regard as I do Simon Jordan I should imagine.

I thought the trains were always punctual 'up north'?

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 1/4/2013 9:14:13 PM   
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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 1/4/2013 9:24:48 PM   
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After the season we've had, any excuse to laugh at sunderland is fine by me.

Went to the Etihad on saturday. I've been to loads of english grounds but I don't think I've ever seen a more lifeless home crowd and a more subdued response to a 4-0 win. The fans near to us were in good form and there was plenty of singing back-and-forth with them but that was pretty much it, and the rest of the crowd barely celebrated any of the goals never mind hang round til the end (loads left on 3-0 and by the time of the fourth there was such a mass exodus you'd think the final whistle had gone). I mean, fair enough, they've had a disappointing season and the league's gone but jesus, if that's what success does to you you can keep it. People say Old Trafford lacks atmosphere but at least they get behind their team when they're winning. The irony is I went to Maine Road years ago when City were shite and there was a fantastic, intimidating atmosphere. Not that any of this matters to fans if they can keep on winning stuff from now on but it's just all a bit alien to me.

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RE: Premier League 2012-2013 Results & Discussion - 3/4/2013 5:42:04 AM   
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After the season we've had, any excuse to laugh at sunderland is fine by me.

Went to the Etihad on saturday. I've been to loads of english grounds but I don't think I've ever seen a more lifeless home crowd and a more subdued response to a 4-0 win. The fans near to us were in good form and there was plenty of singing back-and-forth with them but that was pretty much it, and the rest of the crowd barely celebrated any of the goals never mind hang round til the end (loads left on 3-0 and by the time of the fourth there was such a mass exodus you'd think the final whistle had gone). I mean, fair enough, they've had a disappointing season and the league's gone but jesus, if that's what success does to you you can keep it. People say Old Trafford lacks atmosphere but at least they get behind their team when they're winning. The irony is I went to Maine Road years ago when City were shite and there was a fantastic, intimidating atmosphere. Not that any of this matters to fans if they can keep on winning stuff from now on but it's just all a bit alien to me.


Yup the glory hunters have infected the place and caused that, its a common occurrence in England now.

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