jobloffski
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Not sure what to make of this.
Yes I want (no need) a justice league film in my life, however I don’t want it to be rushed just because The Avengers has done so epically well .
Warner Bros. Learn from Marvel studios get the main cast right for at least one stand alone film each before putting them together there’s too much back story.
I don’t believe that Bale should play Batman, I think a new bat will be needed and I think Green lantern will work fine as a supporting character, plus we have Superman, WW, Flash and possible Green Arrow in the future that a steady approach can work and achievable in the next few years
I'd have doubts about using the Marvel approach, given the years it would take to end up with a JL movie and intervening sequels to the Avengers and individual Marvel films making DC seem very very very late arrivals at the ensemble hero film party.
Keeping it simple, how about a villain from several comics ensemble versus a hero ensemble, with Batman and Superman being the way into a film that escalates the number of heroes as it goes along, each of the individual heroes having been following an individual investigation leading them to their individual bad guy, thus the paths of the heroes cross en route to the big showdown.
Allow the film to be dominated by a Batman/superman meeting up at first, with the other characters of the JL entering demonstrating their abilities along the way and especially in the finale, with superman and Batman acting as 'audience proxy/identification with events point of view'. Then make origin films for the newer heroes that work best, Therefore you would have at least one big splash of a film to ripple out from for future development of individual hero films and a JL that forms as an organic part of a plot/narrative driven by characters that will bring the audience into the cinema and allow a certain amount of goodwill towards the addition of more heroes to the story because the film would start from what is familiar to the largest potential audience.
Stylistically, start in dour Gotham, then enter Superman, adding his colour tones (character wise and costume wise) to the film, with the colour palette of the film expanding as the next hero joins the story, and so on until there is a cornucopia of color by the time everything is in full swing
Then again, I don't know a lot about the JL, just playing devil's advocate and wondering if WB/DC can benefit from the above approach, rather than looking even more like they're riding on the success of the Avengers than they already inevitably will anyway, if they take the riskier approach Marvel did. The lead in films to the Avengers all suffer from 'the big event is coming later' approach, some more than others, and with ensemble films already established as viable by The Avengers, it doesn't (to me) make a lot of sense to take several years to start small and get bigger while the Marvel studio keeps churning 'em out and doing ensemble films in the meantime, making yet more origin films arriving in cinemas seem even more simplistic than they inevitably already are.
Focusing a JL film on Batman/Superman Bruce/Clark gives a central pairing of characters taking in the most ordinary of powerless human beings and the most 'super' of men, with characters and abilities that are extremeopposite reflections of each other, allowing for idealism and cynicism to be applied to the tone of the film so it gets neither too silly, nor too sarky . The familiar faces would act as the core of the film, then layering in heroes who can do various different things, but don't have their own backstories told could provide the ideal compromise for how to pull off a JL movie for approx £250million, rather than the £1Billion plus you'd be looking at to do a JL movie after a series of set up films, any of which might underperform and jinx the whole project. Then, if Batman, Superman and possibly the Green Lantern (without a change casting, because GL wasn't THAT bad) pull in enough dosh, the field then opens for the rest of the dramatis personae, movie wise.
The summer season already has had superhero origin films coming out if its fucking ears for the last few years as it is. Good for the fanboys, not so good for the non fanboys who are the main source of income. And since Marvel's heroes would largely be on the 'bigger, better, badder' sequels in addition to the semi-permanent state of making people ready for the next Avengers, up to 5 origin movies prior to a JL film (if you include Superman and a new Batman launch as 'introductory' films) leave a hell of a lot of work to do to make people still give a shit about variations on people duffing each other up in weird/spectacular ways AND keep variations on 'the ultimate threat to humanity' needing an ensemble effort from seeming like 'this weeks ultimate threat to humanity that wont turn out to be quite so threatening after all''
But what do I know?
< Message edited by jobloffski -- 6/6/2012 6:15:40 PM >
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