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RE: Spoilers or what! - 31/5/2012 1:46:12 PM   
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ridleys films rarely get very good initial reviews, the critics are always sniffy about him, "lack of character, style over substance" etc. his films are slow burners anyway, you cant take them all in with one sitting, they reveal more with repeated viewings and are always so rich in detail. and lets face it most film critics are merely frustrated film makers anyway, who never had the talent to go out and be a success making their own films and can only stand from the sidelines looking in and throwing in their little comments at others efforts. at the end of the day their views are no more relevant than those of regular audience members like us, and whatever the critics say this film is going to be huge with audiences, it is critic-proof.


You've opened a can of worms with that one.

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RE: Spoilers or what! - 31/5/2012 1:47:42 PM   
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No can of worms - sounds more like a chip on the shoulder given it seems to be utter nonsense. Cahiers has a lot to answer for

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RE: RE: - 31/5/2012 1:47:47 PM   
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We do it with quite a lot of films really, the manager is quite laid back about it and as long as we've got the password that unlocks the film then he'll usually put it on. It is mainly the big ones though, John Carter, Avengers, MiB3, Dictator to name a few. Its usually only a day or so before the actual release (Avengers was the Tuesday so bragging rights were mine!) but it just means no annoying customers there to ruin it!

But yeah, for me Prometheus is a hit so I hope you won't be disappointed. It could have benefited from a top, top screenwriter to iron out the stereotypical background characters but the leads are all fleshed out. And as I said, Fassbender's David is a revelation.


O/T We actually saw Avengers in a cinema by ourselves on Monday. I'd happily give up some atmosphere to be able to enjoy a film in peace. It sounds a great perk

On-Topic - I'll be interested to see how Fassbender does. I've seen a couple of good performances and some so bland it's difficult to see a person on screen. I think he needs a strong director - and Ridley never struck me as an actors' director.


I think he has admitted this himself - but it worked for him on Alien where the characters weren't really given backgrounds - they were reactive characters. Screenwriters have sort of lost their abilty to write characters like that....

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RE: RE: - 31/5/2012 1:50:00 PM   
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But it's more the actor, though. Some actors give good performances irrespective of the director - I think some need more/better direction. Fassbender, so for for me, is one of those.

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ORIGINAL: Deviation] LIKE AMERICA'S SWEETHEARTS TOO. IT MADE ME LAUGH A LOT AND THOUGHT IT WAS WITTY. ALSO I FEEL SLOWLY DYING INSIDE. I KEEP AGREEING WITH ELAB.


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RE: RE: - 31/5/2012 1:51:09 PM   
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No Spoilers Here.

I loved it. Absolutely beautiful film, a work of art if you ask me but then expect nothing else from Ridley Scott. It was exactly the kind of film I was expecting. Fassbender is superb, it is suitably horrific in places and the final moments gave me goosebumps. There are a few problems; there's really no need to have so many background characters who rarely get a look in and some of the dialogue is clunky but that aside it was excellent. The 3D was beautiful, especially the extreme wide shots of Prometheus in space.


So it doesn't suffer too much from the light loss?


It was barely noticeable, the film is generally quite bright throughout and the darker scenes when they're off exploring look great as well.

As for where I rank it in the Alien series, I'd have to watch it again a few times. I've seen those films countless times and so they're sort of ingrained on me and I find it difficult to judge them. I'd say its definitely better than Resurrection though but not quite as good as Aliens vs Predator: Requiem.


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RE: RE: - 31/5/2012 1:51:38 PM   
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But it's more the actor, though. Some actors give good performances irrespective of the director - I think some need more/better direction. Fassbender, so for for me, is one of those.


See, I thought he was utterly awful in A Dangerous Method, but Cronenberg is very much an actors director.

I suspect actors will listen to Scott nowerdays, esp those younger ones.

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RE: Spoilers or what! - 31/5/2012 1:51:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: makins

ridleys films rarely get very good initial reviews, the critics are always sniffy about him, "lack of character, style over substance" etc. his films are slow burners anyway, you cant take them all in with one sitting,


Robin Hood you can. That's as shit on repeat viewings as it was the first time around.

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and lets face it most film critics are merely frustrated film makers anyway, who never had the talent to go out and be a success making their own films and can only stand from the sidelines looking in and throwing in their little comments at others efforts. at the end of the day their views are no more relevant than those of regular audience members like us, and whatever the critics say this film is going to be huge with audiences, it is critic-proof.


BONG!

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RE: RE: - 31/5/2012 1:52:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mojo
I'd say its definitely better than Resurrection though but not quite as good as Aliens vs Predator: Requiem.


*Sharp intake of breath* Oh dear

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RE: RE: - 31/5/2012 1:55:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mojo


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ORIGINAL: MonsterCat


quote:

ORIGINAL: Mojo

No Spoilers Here.

I loved it. Absolutely beautiful film, a work of art if you ask me but then expect nothing else from Ridley Scott. It was exactly the kind of film I was expecting. Fassbender is superb, it is suitably horrific in places and the final moments gave me goosebumps. There are a few problems; there's really no need to have so many background characters who rarely get a look in and some of the dialogue is clunky but that aside it was excellent. The 3D was beautiful, especially the extreme wide shots of Prometheus in space.


So it doesn't suffer too much from the light loss?


It was barely noticeable, the film is generally quite bright throughout and the darker scenes when they're off exploring look great as well.

As for where I rank it in the Alien series, I'd have to watch it again a few times. I've seen those films countless times and so they're sort of ingrained on me and I find it difficult to judge them. I'd say its definitely better than Resurrection though but not quite as good as Aliens vs Predator: Requiem.



Please tell me your joking.

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RE: RE: - 31/5/2012 1:56:41 PM   
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But it's more the actor, though. Some actors give good performances irrespective of the director - I think some need more/better direction. Fassbender, so for for me, is one of those.


See, I thought he was utterly awful in A Dangerous Method, but Cronenberg is very much an actors director.

I suspect actors will listen to Scott nowerdays, esp those younger ones.


Not seen it I'm afraid. I'm not saying every actors' director will get a result, mind. But I do think some actors need something they can't seem to get themselves.

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RE: RE: - 31/5/2012 2:01:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mojo

No Spoilers Here.

I loved it. Absolutely beautiful film, a work of art if you ask me but then expect nothing else from Ridley Scott. It was exactly the kind of film I was expecting. Fassbender is superb, it is suitably horrific in places and the final moments gave me goosebumps. There are a few problems; there's really no need to have so many background characters who rarely get a look in and some of the dialogue is clunky but that aside it was excellent. The 3D was beautiful, especially the extreme wide shots of Prometheus in space.


Nice one Mojo. 8 pages in and I've finally found a review of the film
I'm seeing 3D version on Saturday, I was quite dissapointed I couldn't see it in 2D as the only decent 3D film I've seen is Avatar, but I'm quite looking forward to this now.

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RE: RE: - 31/5/2012 2:07:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mojo


quote:

ORIGINAL: MonsterCat


quote:

ORIGINAL: Mojo

No Spoilers Here.

I loved it. Absolutely beautiful film, a work of art if you ask me but then expect nothing else from Ridley Scott. It was exactly the kind of film I was expecting. Fassbender is superb, it is suitably horrific in places and the final moments gave me goosebumps. There are a few problems; there's really no need to have so many background characters who rarely get a look in and some of the dialogue is clunky but that aside it was excellent. The 3D was beautiful, especially the extreme wide shots of Prometheus in space.


So it doesn't suffer too much from the light loss?


It was barely noticeable, the film is generally quite bright throughout and the darker scenes when they're off exploring look great as well.

As for where I rank it in the Alien series, I'd have to watch it again a few times. I've seen those films countless times and so they're sort of



OK, now I'm considering seeing this thing in threed.

I don't have a problem with the idea of 3D, but I do have a problem with how the technology has been handled.


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Prometheus - 31/5/2012 2:09:34 PM   
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I can't keep up with the pace of this thread.

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RE: RE: - 31/5/2012 2:10:23 PM   
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I'd say its definitely better than Resurrection though but not quite as good as Aliens vs Predator: Requiem.


*Sharp intake of breath* Oh dear




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RE: RE: - 31/5/2012 2:11:27 PM   
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Not long till ten pages, I'm upping the stakes and betting on 15 pages by midnight.

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RE: RE: - 31/5/2012 2:13:37 PM   
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Push it to the limit!

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RE: RE: - 31/5/2012 2:18:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mojo
I'd say its definitely better than Resurrection though but not quite as good as Aliens vs Predator: Requiem.


*Sharp intake of breath* Oh dear





Relax people, that was said in jest!

Been telling my Dad about Prometheus and looks like he's finally going to go the cinema for the first time since Return of the King.

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RE: RE: - 31/5/2012 2:18:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mojo
I'd say its definitely better than Resurrection though but not quite as good as Aliens vs Predator: Requiem.


*Sharp intake of breath* Oh dear





Is that a serious comment? Christ, if Prometheus is worse than AvP: Requiem, I'll personally go to Ridley Scott's house and slap him across the chops.

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RE: RE: - 31/5/2012 2:20:05 PM   
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It isn't a prequel to Alien.

It is a remake of AVP.

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RE: Terrible review - 31/5/2012 2:22:33 PM   
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If Ian Nathan reviews The Dark Knight Rises and ONLY gives it 3 stars, people on here are gonna go into meltdown!!

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RE: Terrible review - 31/5/2012 2:40:35 PM   
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If Ian Nathan reviews The Dark Knight Rises and ONLY gives it 3 stars, people on here are gonna go into meltdown!!


I dont have an issuse with the Stars given.What I do have issues with is how the review was written and how it reads terribly negative only for the writer to give it a somewhat positive spin with a decent 3/5 rating.

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RE: Was the reviewer listening to Ridley or not? - 31/5/2012 2:46:33 PM   
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**In case you genuinely haven't seen it yet, spoilers for The Phantom Menace**

I stopped reading Empire reviews for movies I really want to see a loooooooooong time ago. The level of spoilage is some reviews is just ridiculous, and it's the same reason why I haven't watched trailers for the films I'm desperately looking forward to since about 2001. I lapse occasionally, but I've learned the hard way to avoid all these things as it ruins the experience somewhat. I vividly remember buying a copy of The Sun or some other shitty red-top back in '99 purely for the supplement they had on The Phantom Menace. I was hyped for that film and when I opened up the supplement, there was a blow-by-blow summary of the plot, even a picture of Darth Maul being cut in half and falling into the pit. I was gutted!!!!!

Since then, and after having my fingers burned by Empire reviews a few times, I decided enough was enough and I just stopped reading reviews until I'd seen a film.

Anyway, I'm not going to sit and review a review. If Ian did indeed spoil too much, then shame on him. As for the movie, I'll be reserving judgement until I've actually seen it, but I suppose the level of hysteria built up over was seems to have been billed in some quarters as the 'second coming of the sci-fi movie' is bound to create disappointment.

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RE: wowowee - 31/5/2012 3:08:00 PM   
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Filmfan your avatar made me spit coffee out hahahaaa. FABULOUS!!!

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RE: wowowee - 31/5/2012 3:17:03 PM   
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Filmfan your avatar made me spit coffee out hahahaaa. FABULOUS!!!



Hehe, glad you like it.

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RE: wowowee - 31/5/2012 4:03:19 PM   
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I think we should take Ian Nathan's 3 star review with a pinch of salt, afterall, this is the guy who gave TRANSFORMERS 4 fucking stars!


I'd give Transformers 4 stars as well.
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RE: wowowee - 31/5/2012 4:06:25 PM   
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quote:

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I think we should take Ian Nathan's 3 star review with a pinch of salt, afterall, this is the guy who gave TRANSFORMERS 4 fucking stars!


I'd give Transformers 4 stars as well.


The first Transformers got positive reviews from quite a few places.

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RE: wowowee - 31/5/2012 4:13:41 PM   
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I think we should take Ian Nathan's 3 star review with a pinch of salt, afterall, this is the guy who gave TRANSFORMERS 4 fucking stars!


To bring his taste into question it would have been better to mention he gave Hanna 4 stars.

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RE: RE: - 31/5/2012 4:27:15 PM   
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Not long till ten pages, I'm upping the stakes and betting on 15 pages by midnight.


The Avengers review thread has only made it to 13 pages after over a month on general release, compared to this film which still doesn't open for 7.5 hours.
I haven't seen much in this thread resembling an actual review (this post included). So far it's been reviews of the review, reviews of the reviewers other reviews and so on.
Perhaps that will change at 0230 tomorrow. Perhaps not.

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RE: Terrible review - 31/5/2012 5:05:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES

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If Ian Nathan reviews The Dark Knight Rises and ONLY gives it 3 stars, people on here are gonna go into meltdown!!


I dont have an issuse with the Stars given.What I do have issues with is how the review was written and how it reads terribly negative only for the writer to give it a somewhat positive spin with a decent 3/5 rating.

It does seem rather negative to me. 3 stars is pretty good but it sounded like he was very disappointed.

I still want to see it, not sure when I can though...

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RE: Terrible review - 31/5/2012 5:28:09 PM   
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Ok, my intention was to watch this at IMAX, now i've just found out they aren't showing it at Bradford while the 25th, THE 25TH !! What the fck am I gonna do till then ?.

I'm keepin well out of this fcker. Laters !

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