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ORIGINAL: MuckyMuckMan

Has anyone else thought? 'Were these Engineers the last of their kind?'
I'm asking this because in Alien I got the overall impression that the Space Jockey (Engineer) was a traveller with no connection to the human race and I felt he was an ancient and extinct creature . But now, after watching Prometheus, it seems to suggest that they're possibly not the last of their kind (going on the article I posted above (benevolent Engineer flying off with Alien eggs on board back to own homeworld)) and if they aren't why didn't they feature in any of the other Alien movies seen as they were the seed to the creation of the human race and were hell bent of the destruction of our race?

Obviously, they couldn't have featured the Engineers in the Alien movies because Lindelof has just created a brand new branch to the tree of the alien universe but it just shows how many plot holes there are in Prometheus that weren't even considered by the writer/s.

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ORIGINAL: bennyboy1971

I was hoping for a bit more alien sex from this film Promiscuous.

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ORIGINAL: bennyboy1971

I was hoping for a bit more alien sex from this film Promiscuous.

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ORIGINAL: jobloffski

H.R...Gagger?

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ORIGINAL: bennyboy1971

What I dont get is this: why, if there are other ships on the planet (presumably also full of bombs), does the Engineer bother going after Shaw when his ship crashes? He could just leg it to another ship and get the fuck out of there.,

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ORIGINAL: bennyboy1971

What I dont get is this: why, if there are other ships on the planet (presumably also full of bombs), does the Engineer bother going after Shaw when his ship crashes? He could just leg it to another ship and get the fuck out of there.,

He could have but humans did just right muck up his first attempt to take off. For all he knew there could have been a weapon capable of destroying other departing ships on the life boat that detached from Prometheus moments before impact. So he probably wanted to ensure there were no humans left to interfere in his mission before he attempted another take off and risked another ship.

Like so much to do with Prometheus, this is just a viewer theory. But it kind of works for me.

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ORIGINAL: KeithM

Sorry, nothing else to add (although I am getting a chuckle from the increasingly convoluted explanations for the movie's flaws) - I just had to do something about that "Scott's best film since Blade Runner!!!" subtitle someone jokingly put up.

I assume it was a joke. It was, right? Nobody seriously thinks that surely?

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ORIGINAL: BatSpider

Just wanna stamp my boot again on this wriggly filthy cockroach excuse of a movie, and grind the heel hard. Feels satisfying.

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ORIGINAL: goochoid

Watched Alien vs Predator (extended edition) just to see if it was really as bad as I remembered. And yes, it was, but, sod it - it's better than Prometheus. And has EXACTLY the same story: Gang of (not very professional or good experts who don't know each other) hired by Weyland to go by ship (a ship this time not a space ship) to uncharted place to find archaeologically significant building, full of Aliens, and the people who bought them - Giant humanoids (Predators or The Engineers). It even has Mr Weyland addressing his team in the bowels of the ship, with a Power point presentation, and then one of the 'scientists' takes over and fills us in on some exposition!

There a female lead, "A storm" coming. Funny little cars that take them from the ship to the location, that serve no real purpose. They get lost in the pyramid, there's a power source that gets turned on. Some blokes with machine guns to get killed for no reason, an Alien in cold sleep that gets awakened, a bad guy who becomes a good guy (substitute David for the last Predator).

It's the same bloody film! And we'd already said it was shit!

As a commercials director Scott does what the client and the advertising exec's tell him to do. It's clear that that is all he's done here. A completely lazy, rotten script. Imagine if this had been done by almost any other director? It would just be ignored. This is the Emperors old clothes.

So much beautiful material! So much waste! It's like cutting a diamond, keeping the shit bits, and throwing the lovely shiny bit in the middle away.

Oh, and can someone please make a Sci-Fi movie that doesn't have the Mayan civilisation in it? We've done that one OK?

Ridley, Ridley, Ridley.

Shakes head, walks off.

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ORIGINAL: manwihtheplan

There's also other confusing stuff like how come Charlie Holloway gets infected by a virus and no-one else does?

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And perhaps the most frustrating aspect of the film is why no explanation is given why the bald alien/human - who we are to assume was 'first generation' human created us, 'second generation' humans, but decided to kill us. We're teased with some dialogue like "I have to know why?" but it felt a bit pointless. The whole film built up to a bit of a pointless conclusion. Some alien created us but then decided to kill us. How bizarre!

And the very first scene when the bald alien gets broken up and falls into the river doesn't seem to make any sense. I don't get why that happened.

Anyway, I enjoyed it but who knows what much of the plot was about. Felt like the screenwriters made it up as they went along.

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ORIGINAL: londonnut

Very enjoyable discussion on this (poor) film.
In my experience it didn’t succeed as either an Alien ‘DNA’ film or an original set-piece; a misguided fudge somewhere between the two.
One major question from catching up on this thread (as I’m a relative newbie) is; who is jobloffski ?!
In jobloffski’s world…

• Plot holes become “untold parts of the story” !!! currently untold, to be filled in/explained in sequels to a film that raises more questions than it answers, which is quite clearly what I mean, if you read what I wrote AFTER the bit you have quoted out of context
• The film’s narrative is deliberately incoherent to reflect the “unpredicted” process of scientific discovery !!! it's not even that incoherent really, slow build up, shit kicks off as scientists used to being in controlled enviroments lose ALL control of the situation re the discoveries they set out to make. It's not really that unsual for the style of filmmaking/narrative presentation to reflect the content of the film.
• Nonsensical character attributes/actions are “archetypes representing aspects of human folly writ large” !!! As in mythical archetypes, not too much of a stretch to imagine archetypes being used pride, hubris, curiosity, etc, all the downfall of characters in myths. The film is named after a specific myth, that's either for a reason or no reason. Given that Prometheus' punishment for daring to try to be on the same level of the gods is to have his guts ripped open repeatedly and Shaw's 'reward' for her search for answers from the Gods is ripping guts open related, I'd say that's at least one reason to LOOK for answers in a film that at first glance seems mystifying.
• And - best of all - the film makes little sense because it’s “very clearly made to make future viewings add what some people feel is missing” !!! see above and also see Blade Runner. Where in the film does it say Deckard is or isn't a Replicant? You have to be looking for potential pointers and decide for yourself. Excuse me for going into a film made by the Director of Blade Runner, a film famous for hints and nuance, not spelling out it's point too much in your face looking for a puzzle to solve/explore ;-)

Amazing or bullshit, or whatever, but gets me a lot more out of the film