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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 23/4/2013 1:23:13 PM   
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I've noticed on one or two forums, most recently Coming Soon, that there are one or prize sh*theads posting huge spoilers about Iron Man 3. No warning, just a token couple of remarks designed to spoil the film as much as possible. Having come across one myself, I would advise anybody planning on seeing it to keep well clear until after viewings.

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 23/4/2013 2:53:05 PM   
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The spoiler that I read (by accident on a poorly flagged website) I won't share. All I can say is that I sincerely hope it's not true!

Also, other speculation is about the post-credits sequence. Anyone suspect that Marvel might pull a fast one like with Avengers last year and add something else as a sweetener for the US audiences who have to wait a bit longer for the film? They got the shawarma scene in cinemas, we didn't!

Empire: for the third time, where the f**k is the review?

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 23/4/2013 2:56:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BelfastBoy

The spoiler that I read (by accident on a poorly flagged website) I won't share. All I can say is that I sincerely hope it's not true!

Also, other speculation is about the post-credits sequence. Anyone suspect that Marvel might pull a fast one like with Avengers last year and add something else as a sweetener for the US audiences who have to wait a bit longer for the film? They got the shawarma scene in cinemas, we didn't!

Empire: for the third time, where the f**k is the review?


Midnight.

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 23/4/2013 4:32:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BelfastBoy

The spoiler that I read (by accident on a poorly flagged website) I won't share. All I can say is that I sincerely hope it's not true!



Oh, it's true. I've no doubt now. It's coming from so many sources, all confirming the same thing. I'm gunna give it the benefit of the doubt, but damn, it sounds crazy, and it's going to really, really divide people I reckon.

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 23/4/2013 8:18:00 PM   
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quote:

quote:

ORIGINAL: BelfastBoy

The spoiler that I read (by accident on a poorly flagged website) I won't share. All I can say is that I sincerely hope it's not true!


Oh, it's true. I've no doubt now. It's coming from so many sources, all confirming the same thing. I'm gunna give it the benefit of the doubt, but damn, it sounds crazy, and it's going to really, really divide people I reckon.


It is most definitely true. I, for one, am intrigued. It sounds like they pulled it off in a very clever and interesting way.

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 23/4/2013 10:41:22 PM   
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I've basically avoided the last few posts as the dreaded S word seems to appear a fair bit... so taking the thread in a better direction - what's everyone think of the new Thor trailer?

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/marvel/thorthedarkworld/

Curious start, London just seemed a significant departure from the recent Marvel locations but it defintely builds after that with a definite darker tone as the name suggests. And Loki's cameo was great - even with the dodgy haircut!

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 23/4/2013 10:57:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fuzzy

I've basically avoided the last few posts as the dreaded S word seems to appear a fair bit... so taking the thread in a better direction - what's everyone think of the new Thor trailer?

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/marvel/thorthedarkworld/

Curious start, London just seemed a significant departure from the recent Marvel locations but it defintely builds after that with a definite darker tone as the name suggests. And Loki's cameo was great - even with the dodgy haircut!

I think it looks great. I'm only watched it the once but I'm quite excited. The first one was a real surprise for me and having never read any Thor comics I'm unfamiliar with all storylines. The darker tone really seems to fit although I really hope that there isn't a huge spoiler in there. Looking forward to Loki's return as well

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 24/4/2013 12:44:49 PM   
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disney get the rights to 'daredevil'-


http://www.deadline.com/2013/04/toldja-daredevil-rights-revert-from-fox-to-disney/



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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 24/4/2013 12:47:46 PM   
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Looks like London's in for a bad year, given that it gets attacked in both Star Trek and Thor. Is this possibly a weird side-effect of it being the host city of a wildly successful Olympics last year? (In that, if filmmakers were looking for somewhere to wreck other than New York, the focus groups were piping up with 'What about London?')

Thor looking good so far, although my fear would be to do with those reports that Natalie Portman's only appearing because Marvel invoked their contractual option and forced her to. The last time she was in such a situation, the result was a shocking performance (hindered further by Lucas's lifeless direction) in Revenge Of The Sith.

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 24/4/2013 1:04:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: spark1

disney get the rights to 'daredevil'-


http://www.deadline.com/2013/04/toldja-daredevil-rights-revert-from-fox-to-disney/




Happy about this, though I actually quite enjoy the Fox DD movie, esp the directors cut.

Would like to see a reboot, a more street level side, possibly one of the characters who could be more 'adult' in its approach, a bit like Blade back in the day.


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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 24/4/2013 1:12:58 PM   
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Perhaps 'Daredevil' could be rebooted under the Marvel Knights studio banner like Punisher: War Zone and Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance allowing for a harder take on the character?

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 24/4/2013 3:27:02 PM   
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Perhaps 'Daredevil' could be rebooted under the Marvel Knights studio banner like Punisher: War Zone and Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance allowing for a harder take on the character?

Would that not guarantee a poor Daredevil movie? given the track record so far ...

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 24/4/2013 9:23:45 PM   
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I`d like to see Daredevil as part of the current universe. Rebooted with a young actor to build the franchise for the long term.



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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 24/4/2013 10:13:22 PM   
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Wikipedia has the whole Iron Man 3 plot already?

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 24/4/2013 11:20:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: no1psh

I`d like to see Daredevil as part of the current universe. Rebooted with a young actor to build the franchise for the long term.


Personally I'd like to see some of these 'street level' characters like Daredevil, Luke Cage and Punisher introduced through maybe the new SHIELD series. It'll be less risky for Disney and they'll still be part of the existing cinematic universe. If successful, they can feature teaming up on the big screen now and again, without the need for the obligatory 'origins' tale each one would have in a standalone film. A seemless interchange between film and tv hasn't really been done like that before, but with the talent and budget behind US tv these days, I can't see why it couldn't work.


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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 25/4/2013 9:05:14 AM   
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Punisher should be an adult audience ( Dexter/walking dead) rated TV series starring Thomas Jane!. Dexter finishes this year for good! so would be a great replacement in the schedule! Jane has already said he wants to play the role again and even used his own cash to make a Punisher film short (its on youtube if you ain't seen it) cameos Ron Perlman!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWpK0wsnitc


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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 26/4/2013 9:50:33 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dannybohy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon

Perhaps 'Daredevil' could be rebooted under the Marvel Knights studio banner like Punisher: War Zone and Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance allowing for a harder take on the character?

Would that not guarantee a poor Daredevil movie? given the track record so far ...


Totally agree! Although I thought Punisher: Warzone had the violence cranked up to the right level it was far too camp and had some atrocious acting and dialogue in it, whereas both Ghost Rider films (which could've been SOOOOOO good done right) were frickin awful! I liked Thomas Jane as The Punisher and although the movie with him wasn't great (but certainly wasn't awful) I think they should've stuck with it and tried to build on it in a sequel. I would like to see the Marvel Knights characters like The Punisher, Luke Cage, Ghost Rider, Daredevil etc done right in R rated films but I think they'd need to start from scratch. One casting I've had in mind since they originally announced a Ghost Rider movie is Colin Farrell as Johnny Blaze. It just seems right to me!

Changing the subject slightly - anyone read the article today where Joss Whedon has said he has written new characters into his Avengers 2 draft stating that he "has a brother and sister team" in mind? All of the internet buzz points to Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch which I think would be great, but as they are mutants, pasrt of the X-verse and the offspring of Magneto (a character owned by Fox) isn't that pretty much impossible at the moment? Or could it be that he has written Ant Man and The Wasp as siblings as opposed to partners?

I loves a bit of speculation me!!


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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 26/4/2013 10:18:56 AM   
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At the time of The Avengers release when someone mentioned to Kevin Feige about Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch not being possible to use, his response was that it wasn't as simple as that, and they'd be able to use them as long as they don't link them to the X-Men universe. So it'd have to be alternate versions that aren't the children of Magneto, but it is possible.

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 26/4/2013 2:22:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fuzzy

Personally I'd like to see some of these 'street level' characters like Daredevil, Luke Cage and Punisher introduced through maybe the new SHIELD series. It'll be less risky for Disney and they'll still be part of the existing cinematic universe. If successful, they can feature teaming up on the big screen now and again, without the need for the obligatory 'origins' tale each one would have in a standalone film. A seemless interchange between film and tv hasn't really been done like that before, but with the talent and budget behind US tv these days, I can't see why it couldn't work.



Have to agree with this... then have the series heroes show up in Avengers 2 under maybe the Civil War storyline?

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 26/4/2013 3:33:10 PM   
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Did Whedon specify that the brother and sister team were going to be Avengers? Any chance they could be the villains of the piece?

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 26/4/2013 3:57:54 PM   
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quote:

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Did Whedon specify that the brother and sister team were going to be Avengers? Any chance they could be the villains of the piece?


He didn't specify. In the context of the interview it sounded like they were going to be Avengers but I guess they could be villains. I guess Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch are kind of morally ambiguous anyway so they could be either heroes or villains, whereas if as I suspect they are doing Ant Man and The Wasp as siblings instead of as partners - they will definitely be Avengers!

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 27/4/2013 10:45:34 PM   
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The smart money would be on SW and Quicksilver, as Weedon said something about the unconfirmed siblings as being favourite characters of his. Changing the Ant-man/Wasp relationship wouldn't make sense if this was the case. There's a tenuous link out there about Coulson mentioning a 'cellist' girlfriend and that SW has played the cello in the comics, add that to Coulson rumoured to be coming back as the Vision and suddenly it all makes sense, right? Nah, me neither. But unless Joss is going to surprise everyone and bring Northstar and Aurora into the gang, I can't see it being anyone other than the offspring of Magneto. My only issue, is unless they cameo in the upcoming phase 2 films, they'll come in fresh to audiences, which maybe risky. That and with rumours of Ant-man, Wasp and even Black Panther making an appearance, it could get a little crowded at Avengers HQ - great for comics, not so much for a 2hr movie.

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 27/4/2013 11:03:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fuzzy

The smart money would be on SW and Quicksilver, as Weedon said something about the unconfirmed siblings as being favourite characters of his. Changing the Ant-man/Wasp relationship wouldn't make sense if this was the case. There's a tenuous link out there about Coulson mentioning a 'cellist' girlfriend and that SW has played the cello in the comics, add that to Coulson rumoured to be coming back as the Vision and suddenly it all makes sense, right? Nah, me neither. But unless Joss is going to surprise everyone and bring Northstar and Aurora into the gang, I can't see it being anyone other than the offspring of Magneto. My only issue, is unless they cameo in the upcoming phase 2 films, they'll come in fresh to audiences, which maybe risky. That and with rumours of Ant-man, Wasp and even Black Panther making an appearance, it could get a little crowded at Avengers HQ - great for comics, not so much for a 2hr movie.

I thought Coulson was the cellist

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 29/4/2013 10:52:06 AM   
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Does anyone know what the additional subplots in the Chinese cut of Iron Man 3 were all about? Surprised Dr. Wu only got one line in the international cut, but apparently he's a major character in the Chinese version - as is his wife played by Bingbing Fan.

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 29/4/2013 10:55:04 AM   
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Hopefully they'll put those scenes on the Blu-Ray, either as an extra, or an alternate cut. I'm quite pissed off that the scenes featuring the Chinese cast were exclusive to China.

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 1/5/2013 9:42:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon

Does anyone know what the additional subplots in the Chinese cut of Iron Man 3 were all about? Surprised Dr. Wu only got one line in the international cut, but apparently he's a major character in the Chinese version - as is his wife played by Bingbing Fan.


No idea with specifics, but it looks that the additional scenes will likely be focussed on the final op he has.... I gotta say, I'm intrigued to see if it's more than that.

So, as reviews and spoilers are out for IM3, I wanna talk about how this impacts the future Marvel films..... so yea, SPOILERS!

Sadly, and rather boringly I'm sure, a lot of this is focussed on one man(darin) so again, if you haven't seen IM3, move along.

So, The Mandarin. If you've seen it or read any of my other comments on here regarding it, you know I hated the reveal. I am not here to talk about how piss poor I thought it was or how it fucks up that movie in particular, rather something I kinda mentioned in my posts in the review thread, and that is the suggestion in some circles that Trevor Mandarin is actually the real Mandarin and Killian Mandarin is simply a pawn and part of a bigger picture.

Today Harry Knowles has published his (typically glowing and near un-readable) review and in it is convinced that Trev is the real Mandarin. He supports it with a couple of interpretations to how Kingley is playing a couple of scenes and looks. It's not a new theory, it's been doing the rounds on the SHH boards since the spoilers dropped and it's something I was specifically looking for, especially in my second viewing.

The theory goes Trevor Mandarin is playing everyone and that (in scenes not shown on screen, and indeed not really hinted at in dialogue) in the years after Tony meets Geek Killian, Mandarin approaches Killian after learning of the Extremis research. However, he isn't approaching Killian as Mandarin or Trev but some other unseen force, most likely the 10 Rings and Raza from the original Iron Man movie. Raza and the 10 Rings, under direction from an unseen Mandarin begin supporting Killian and AIM, and drive the theory to him that he can become Mandarin and lead this organisation by using a puppet..... and here is where they introduce 'Trevor'. Trevor Mandarin is playing a part to keep himself distanced from the real goings on. Killian Mandarin thinks he is in charge, but he isn't. Trevor Mandarin isn't really caring about Tony (that's Killian's side project if you like. Trevor Mandarin is wanting to destabilise the US and ramps it up in the wake of the outing of aliens and gods and Avengers and shit like that. The suggestion is that Trev Mandarin may be getting saved for a follow up reveal in Avengers 2 or IM4.

Now, that might very well be a plausible way to take things and build a nice villain. However, nothing in the movie, as far as I can see, really suports any of this. I was looking for it, and I kinda know where Knowles get's one particular feeling from (when Savin knocks out Stark and asks Trevor 'So, what did you tell him?') a particular look in the way Kinglsey plays it, but I think he is mistaking Kingley's attempt at frozen fear for a look of strong control.

Like I said in my review, it's possible that the cool, calculating Mandarin from the videos is the real deal and that when he realises Stark is in his hous, he thinks quick and on his feet to create this character right in front of Stark. But that also means that he has to play this dumb, drug addicted actor in front of Killian and Killians in on it Extremis Soldiers, such as Savin. He has to contniue playing that part, with the drugs and hookers, and I dont buy that the character as presented in the videos (cool, smart, calculated, ruthless) would do that just to play a game with a money/power hungry corporate suit. The finale of Trevor getting his red carpet walk to jail seems to seal it for me, he's playing up to it, relishing the limelight. There just isnt anything presented on screen to suggest Trevor Mandarin is playing a bigger part in the whole thing and it seems like people defending the choices made in the movie by making up backstory that isn't there.

Thre is a par tof me that hopes these crazy theories are true and that the Mandarin as presented in the first half of the movie can make some miraculous return in a future film. I think given the fact the MCU opened up to the 'cosmic' stuff suggested they could to a version of Mandarin with crazy rings of power without it feelign too out there. So, is Mandarin still out there and does Kinglsey get a second reveal in another movie?

The other thing that I guess potentially impacts on the future of the MCU is the removal of the shrapnel from Stark. Now, I dont recall how this all goes down and how things were set up with it in previous movies, but my understanding was that the Arc Reactor is his chest was acting as the thing to keep the shrapnel from his heart whilst also acting as the power source for whichever suit he was wearing (mk3, mk7 whatever) however, it seems (as IM3 seems increasingly reliant on a lack of power to the suit for getting Tony into scrapes) that the chest Arc Reactor isn't as important as it was made out in IM1. I liked the idea that it was his chest Arc Reactor that powered him, as it made a nice link between the man and the suit, the suit needs him and he needs the suit kinda thing. I dont recall how it was played out in IM2, other than the infection it was giving him (how the fuck did that resolve itself?) but with Tony having the shrapnel and Arc removed, is the MCU going to rehash things that keep happening in IM3 (Oh no! My suit is loosing power!) that result in a problem for Stark to overcome? I really hope there is a more interesting way around this and they find a way to keep the suit and it's power linked into Tony.

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 1/5/2013 10:26:47 AM   
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feige talks phase 2-

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/05/01/kevin-feige-iron-man-marvel-daredevil/

seems a 'daredevil' movie is not on the way just yet

joss talks thanos-

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/26943/thanos-held-back-until-avengers-3


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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 2/5/2013 4:45:53 PM   
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Looks like were not missing much:

http://worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=28240

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 2/5/2013 5:03:50 PM   
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Looks like were not missing much:

http://worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=28240


Well... that sounds pretty pathetic. They had a lot of potential to introduce Asian actors to a mainstream audience with this film and did just do the minimum to get the money. And as blatant as most product placement is, that first scene is just disgusting. I'm glad that the scenes were taken out of the Western version now, though I'd have preferred they actually made good use of the opportunity.

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RE: Marvel Cinematic Universe - 4/5/2013 12:32:48 PM   
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feige on marvel/disney acquring violent, unpopular characters-

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/26980/marvel-takes-back-blade-punisher-rider

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