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Prometheus Will Be A 15 In The UK - 9/5/2012 10:09:14 AM   
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- 9/5/2012 10:09:14 AM   
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I kinda guessed it would be - after all, Alien is a 15 now.

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F*CK, YEAH! - 9/5/2012 10:12:25 AM  1 votes
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THAT'S FRICKIN' AWESOME NEWS!

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RE: - 9/5/2012 10:17:20 AM   
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Alien is a 15 now.


Er, no it isn't.

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RE: - 9/5/2012 10:22:03 AM   
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I kinda guessed it would be - after all, Alien is a 15 now.


Alien is still an 18: http://www.bbfc.co.uk/BVF013217/

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RE: RE: - 9/5/2012 10:26:23 AM   
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Nope, 15: http://www.bbfc.co.uk/FVF013217/.

Admittedly that's for the Director's Cut, but that's only because the BBFC won't reclassify a film if the presentation is the same as a version they've already classified, leading to the rather odd occurrence of The Terminator receiving a 15 for the widescreen DVD when a simultaneously rereleased video of the pan and scan version came out still as 18... if the 1979 cut of Alien was to be submitted today it would sail through as a 15.

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RE: RE: - 9/5/2012 10:30:53 AM   
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So why do all the DVDs and blurays, including the most recent, say 18 on them?

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RE: RE: - 9/5/2012 10:31:36 AM   
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Nope, 15: http://www.bbfc.co.uk/FVF013217/


Aye, it was reclassified when the Director's Cut was released. The most recent classification on the list below is from 2010, and is a 15.

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RE: RE: - 9/5/2012 10:34:21 AM   
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So why do all the DVDs and blurays, including the most recent, say 18 on them?



Because they include the still-18 theatrical cut, which can't be recertified. But the no-less-gory, no-less-violent Director's Cut is 15.

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Aye, it was reclassified when the Director's Cut was released. The most recent classification on the list below is from 2010, and is a 15.


Exactly. I think that refers to the teatrical version, reclassified as it's been rated for the isolated score. Therefore it's a little different, therefore it can be reclassified...

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Awesome... - 9/5/2012 10:45:41 AM   
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Nice...Sir Ridders bows to NOBODY!!! PG13 my arse...Keep everything in there! No cuts

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RE: RE: - 9/5/2012 10:55:55 AM   
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Because they include the still-18 theatrical cut, which can't be recertified. But the no-less-gory, no-less-violent Director's Cut is 15.



Mental!!

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Prometheus 2: Electric Boogaloo - 9/5/2012 11:41:21 AM   
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Let's hope James Cameron does the sequel to Prometheus to cure his addiction to Avatar.

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Great News. Edited Ridley Films never work... - 9/5/2012 11:50:20 AM   
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More important then the rating is the fact that Ridley is being left to put out the film that 'he' wants to. Films where he has been forced to cut them have sucked - Robin Hood, Kingdom of Heaven - Kingdom of Heaven I might add is my favourite directors cut, the extra 40mins transforms it from an Orlando Bloom suck fest into a stunning epic. Helps that Orlando isn't in any of the extra footage.

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- 9/5/2012 12:37:39 PM   
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a 15 these days is borderline 18 anyway, boundries in censorship are always being pushed. It'l get an unrated blu-ray release anyways

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- 9/5/2012 12:37:56 PM   
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a 15 these days is borderline 18 anyway, boundries in censorship are always being pushed. It'l get an unrated blu-ray release anyways

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R rated = fantastic news - 9/5/2012 1:05:27 PM   
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notice some people are still moaning, saying there were 2 cuts (as Scott has previously stated) - a softer cut intended to get PG13 for cinema release and an harder extreme R cut version intended for DVD - and that Fox submitted the 'soft' cut hoping it would get PG13, but the MPAA gave it R so it'll be like a 'soft' R, and that now they may as well release the 'hard' cut that they were saving for ulta violent DVD (probably 18 in UK)...

however even if that is the case (it seems to be the norm these days to release extended cuts for dvd so cant blame them for wanting to keep any harder cut for the dvd as more of a sell point) its still R rated!! so the MPAA must think the 'soft' cut is pretty much the same level of intensity,dread and horror as the previous Alien films (and AvP:Requiem)



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fantastic news - 9/5/2012 1:05:43 PM   
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Best. News. Ever. - 9/5/2012 1:09:56 PM  1 votes
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So glad that this is going to keep a harder edge, particularly after the damp squib that was Women in Black. I'm finding it very irritating that films that should be being enjoyed by a more mature audience are being edited and watered down to pander to the family crowd: so happy that this isn't going to be ruined in the same manner.

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- 9/5/2012 1:44:04 PM   
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Sir Ridley indeed

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avatar - 9/5/2012 1:53:31 PM   
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just thought i'd say ;avatar is a shite film.great sfx but a very poor and simple movie.

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RE: avatar - 9/5/2012 4:24:18 PM   
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Totally agree. Worst film I've ever seen.

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RE: avatar - 9/5/2012 5:08:58 PM   
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Totally agree. Worst film I've ever seen.


Bit extreme, but i guess we're all entitled....

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RE: avatar - 9/5/2012 5:14:47 PM   
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I donít understand why people were getting so het up about this anyway? Since when did the classification of a film decide how good it is? Jaws, The Dark Knight, Indiana Jones (Temple & Ark) have all over the years been PG and/or 12A and are intense and in some places incredibly violent and gory. They are bonafide classics without holding back. Why would this have been any different??

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RE: avatar - 9/5/2012 5:51:11 PM   
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I donít understand why people were getting so het up about this anyway? Since when did the classification of a film decide how good it is? Jaws, The Dark Knight, Indiana Jones (Temple & Ark) have all over the years been PG and/or 12A and are intense and in some places incredibly violent and gory. They are bonafide classics without holding back. Why would this have been any different??

Because its derived from a movie where creatures who bleed acid burrow holes in peoples heads with their tounge. Not to mention impregnating their victims who have you look forward to said creature grotesquely bursting out their chest. Does that sound like a child friendly movie? Its really not that hard to understand at all.

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Dang but not really a whole lotta dang - 9/5/2012 6:23:56 PM   
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Dang because I can no longer take the younger members of the family to see it and not really a whole lotta dang because it'll be a much better movie for it. However, it does mean it'll be far more awkward to find a spare moment to view this movie of awesome. But hey. I'm sure I will.

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RE: avatar - 9/5/2012 6:26:29 PM   
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I donít understand why people were getting so het up about this anyway? Since when did the classification of a film decide how good it is? Jaws, The Dark Knight, Indiana Jones (Temple & Ark) have all over the years been PG and/or 12A and are intense and in some places incredibly violent and gory. They are bonafide classics without holding back. Why would this have been any different??

Because its derived from a movie where creatures who bleed acid burrow holes in peoples heads with their tounge. Not to mention impregnating their victims who have you look forward to said creature grotesquely bursting out their chest. Does that sound like a child friendly movie? Its really not that hard to understand at all.


Jaws is about a giant shark that eats people, The Dark Knight is about a man who butchers people with knives and blows up hospitals?

The point I am making is (to be fair largely pointless now as it is a 15) is just because the film has a slightly lower certificate it doesn't mean it won't hold back. If you watch the Alien films now, especially the first one, most of the gore and violence is suggested (fyi; when Lambert dies you know what is happening to her simply through the noise on the Nostromo PA system as Ripley is running through the corridors). That I find far more horrific and effective than any of the Saw-esq gore from the shockingly bad Alien Resurrection or most 18 certificate horror films that are out to date.

The stand out part from the trailer from Prometheus is where Noomi is standing at a window trying to cover her ears as she can hear horrific screaming from what I assume is coming from someone being attacked ("get it off him, get it off him"). I hope the film has a bit more class and carries on down that route as oppossed to making it an 18 certific gore/porn fest.

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RE: Dang but not really a whole lotta dang - 9/5/2012 6:29:26 PM   
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Dang because I can no longer take the younger members of the family to see it and not really a whole lotta dang because it'll be a much better movie for it. However, it does mean it'll be far more awkward to find a spare moment to view this movie of awesome. But hey. I'm sure I will.


Haha I know what you mean. Although I took my ten year old to watch The Avengers the other day and they showed the full trailer to Prometheus before the film and it scared the living shit out of him...he even stopped eating his Haribo Tangfastics afterwards (yea I snuck in the Haribo...I'm not paying Odeon prices for a shitty pick n' mix!!)

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RE: Dang but not really a whole lotta dang - 9/5/2012 6:42:57 PM   
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You are missing the point. They are there're own original films. Prometheus is a prequel to Alien. Therefore should share the same tone of terror. Making it 12s is only in the interest of greedy studio fat-cats. It was made without compromise , thankfully, and got the rating it got. Its the same reason why a toy story prequel shouldn't be 18 rated.

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RE: Dang but not really a whole lotta dang - 9/5/2012 7:44:07 PM   
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You are missing the point. They are there're own original films. Prometheus is a prequel to Alien. Therefore should share the same tone of terror. Making it 12s is only in the interest of greedy studio fat-cats. It was made without compromise , thankfully, and got the rating it got. Its the same reason why a toy story prequel shouldn't be 18 rated.


I'd kill to see that. I'd kill anyone to see that.


Caveat...wouldn't kill anyone, and stuff. But 18 certificate Woody and the Toys, TS4: Fuck All Y'all would at least make a classic poster

Edit, on topic: seeing someone looking horrified, past camera at the 'CUT IT OFF! CUT IT OFF!! CUT IT CUT IT OOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH(SQUELCHY SOUNDS)' bit

would by itself justify 15, and potentially be horrific enough to justify 18 by itself, depending on the level of horror evident in the onlooker. I have no evidence to suggest such a thing will be seen in the film, but just wanted to make the point, you can scare the shit out of an audience without showing them anything at all, if you, for example, have built up an affinity between the characters, made them people the audience like and then show them absolutely distraught at whatever is going on/being killed mercilessly, whether you see it or not, and the certificate will be based on the level of horror created, and therefore still be not for kids. The film maker just needs at least one fuck of a clue what he/she is doing, and the rest is simple. Probably.


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Was hoping for an 18 rating... - 9/5/2012 9:21:48 PM   
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..As any Alien movie should have, but thankful we are getting a 15.Now all i need to do is find a cinema that will show it in the NORMAL way.Not having any more of this 3D bullshit.

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