boaby
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Joined: 29/12/2006
From: Aberdeenshire
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After at first being horrified by Edinburgh chippers and their bizarre saaaas I came round to the notion that it's nae bad. "Ye waan'in' saul' 'n' saaaas pal?"
Plus, if you timed it right, the chipper roon' the corner fae my flat on Viewforth would gie ye 2 fish. Ace min.
A chipper up my way does a spicy haggis pouch. It's affa fine.
Black pudding is my usual though.
Dinna like Durie, nor Pressley (the divin' Matalan Mourinho tramp.) though he hiz been spikking an inordinate amount o' sense recently, nor Craig Harry Potter 4-6-0 Levein. Dinna mind Hendry, nae affa fond o' him like.
Yes to independence fae me. I think, I know, a fair number of people who vote SNP just now will leave the party and vote for other parties if independence should be achieved. I think there'd be something of a redrawing of politics in Scotland. I think a Scottish Labour party fully separate from the UK would be closer to the old-school principles of the party rather than New Labour. Interesting battle between the returning "exiles" and the "natives" for the run of the party. I think the tories, if they became properly Scottish Tory party might pinch a substantial wedge of voters from the SNP, or indeed, vice vera. The SNP would definitely change significantly. Not really a stick on that an SNP led by Salmond would be in power. The electoral system would probably be have some sort of PR so coalitions might well be the norm. It'll no doubt take a good while for midsets of politicians in Scotland to change to fit within a Scottish polity.
Independence is a long term thing. If people vote based on the short term then there either won't be independence or people will feel duped in the aftermath. My idea of an independent Scotland is pretty irrelevent. No-one can say with any confidence what it will look like or be. For it to work it will need self-belief and maturity. I think it can work. I think it can go wrong.
If the constitution, voting system, parliamentary structure are defined by the SNP then it won't work. These things need the input from all in Scottish society. I've seen nothing to indicate the Unionist parties are willing to discuss such things pre-referendum. Understandably so really, from a tactical viewpoint. Deciding on such things in a considered and inclusive way beforehand removes some of the uncertainty, removes some of the unknowns from which fear can easily spring. If these things are not setteld pre-ref then the ref becomes about an idea. It's easy to take the p!ss out of an idea - romantic, unrealistic, unworkable, etc, etc.
I believe, with full participation in the building process, that Scotland can be a far better country than it is just now. Won't be easy. Failure is an option. But I think Scotland in the UK is now one long, slow, failure.
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"Aberdonians, and with some degree of purpose and right on their side, have absolute contempt for Glasgow. There is a side of Aberdonians who, let's be absolutely honest about this, feel so superior to Glasgow that you can measure it by the yard."
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) making everything all rank, same with everywhere else in my experience. Chippy sauce rules. 
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