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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 27/4/2012 3:58:28 PM   
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I've been thinking of putting together a list of some sort for a while but I just don't have the commitment to carry it through to it's conclusion. I like reading other people's lists so I'm happy to continue just doing that for the forseeable future (I don't have the time at the moment anyway).



The problem I'd have is that I'd never be able to put together a list in retrospect, only be rewatching - but for this you'd need to rewatch everything.
Or have a lot of gaps.




You could always not set a number and just keep as an ongoing project.

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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 27/4/2012 4:23:58 PM   
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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 27/4/2012 5:42:07 PM   
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The problem I'd have is that I'd never be able to put together a list in retrospect, only be rewatching - but for this you'd need to rewatch everything.
Or have a lot of gaps.



You could always not set a number and just keep as an ongoing project.


I'm already of the feeling that there's so much I've forgotten that not having a set number may be the way to go. I'll stick with the plan for now though.

Cheers for that link!




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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 28/4/2012 12:23:51 AM   
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Really enjoying this list. Gimli you have the best ideas for lists, it's hard to follow without wondering what would be on my own. The suggestion for more people to do a list like this is a good one. I might try it but slightly different.

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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 28/4/2012 6:02:14 AM   
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Thanks. I'd like to see other lists of this type as well.


12. The 20th Century Fox Fanfare


Possibly the best film production company theme. Written by one of the all-time great composers, Alfred Newman, I've always loved it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Y7JHO4b_8

It was re-recorded by John Williams back in 1980 for use with The Empire Strikes Back - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcF67oBklIo - and it's perhaps because of that I can't listen to the fanfare these days without wanting to immediately start humming along to...




13. The Star Wars Main Theme by John Williams.
I can pinpoint when my love of film music began, almost down to the minute. The 2.30 showing of the special edition of Star Wars at a nearby cinema, Saturday 22nd 1997. I had no real clue what Star Wars was about, it had passed my youth my almost completely, but I came away a fan. But just as much as the characters or space battles and everything, I came away being completely in awe of the music and especially this most magnificent theme that blasted out during the opening minutes of the film. John Williams has written some of the finest and most memorable pieces of film music in history, but few can match this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXcoM_AHuk8


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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 28/4/2012 7:23:25 AM   
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14. Tor Johnson


I've only seen Johnson in his final 2 films and based on his performances in both Plan 9 From Outer Space and, especially, The Beast Of Yucca Flats, he'll never be remembered as a great actor, but he's so essential in helping make those films so brilliantly bad, I can't help but love the guy. He makes bad acting fun, unlike more acclaimed actors who shall remain nameless.


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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 28/4/2012 9:10:26 AM   
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Brando?

There's something quite touching about Tor Johnson being on this list.


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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 28/4/2012 9:24:49 AM   
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How did you guess?

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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 28/4/2012 9:35:37 AM   
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I think you've mentioned it once or twice.

The first entry on your top 500 films comes to mind.


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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 28/4/2012 9:58:05 AM   
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Good point!


15. The Coraline A-Z Poster series.



I doubt that, in years to come,, this set of posters will be fondly remembered and are hardly likely to be considering classic film marketing, but I like them for at least trying to be a bit different and displaying more imagination than many posters for animated films.

Browse them all here - http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/coraline/pictures/39/


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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 28/4/2012 10:11:17 AM   
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16. Going Bye Bye - The telephone scene


Even if you haven't seen the film, anyone who is at all familiar with the world that Laurel and Hardy inhabit will probably figure out what what will happen in this scene just by looking at the picture, but that doesn't stop it being any less fun. But the best bit is, by far, how the ever gentlemanly Ollie explains over the phone the situation as if this is the kind of thing that happens every day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI9n2K0l-10

Expect many, many, many more Laurel and Hardy scenes.

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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 28/4/2012 10:11:49 AM   
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Those posters are pretty cool. It's a nice idea.

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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 28/4/2012 10:20:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

Thanks. I'd like to see other lists of this type as well.




I can start one covering film, music, stand-up comedy, t.v., etc, if you like. I'll put up about 10 entries nobody has ever heard of, get no responses, and then completely forget about it when I see a shiny thing in the corner.

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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 28/4/2012 11:49:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

Thanks. I'd like to see other lists of this type as well.

I did that "five things you like" list, which was a bit less ambitious (though I expanded it to a nice round nine). It wasn't as good as yours, tho.

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12. The 20th Century Fox Fanfare


Possibly the best film production company theme. Written by one of the all-time great composers, Alfred Newman, I've always loved it.

It's great, though I think RKO is still my favourite. Followed by the '30s Universal one with the little model plane: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeCSdzSouUI

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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 28/4/2012 1:24:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

Good point!


15. The Coraline A-Z Poster series.



I doubt that, in years to come,, this set of posters will be fondly remembered and are hardly likely to be considering classic film marketing, but I like them for at least trying to be a bit different and displaying more imagination than many posters for animated films.

Browse them all here - http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/coraline/pictures/39/



So much better than the film.

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It's great, though I think RKO is still my favourite.


It always makes me smile - so many of my favourite films from the 40s have this up front.


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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 28/4/2012 3:07:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

Thanks. I'd like to see other lists of this type as well.




I can start one covering film, music, stand-up comedy, t.v., etc, if you like. I'll put up about 10 entries nobody has ever heard of, get no responses, and then completely forget about it when I see a shiny thing in the corner.



I was planning on doing a all-culture list (basically anything and everything think is pretty fab from film to music via books and theatre) - still might, though I wouldn't set a number.

Do one, it will be a good read, even if it's just full of surrealist British porn from the 70s.

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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 28/4/2012 10:55:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rawlinson


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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

Thanks. I'd like to see other lists of this type as well.




I can start one covering film, music, stand-up comedy, t.v., etc, if you like. I'll put up about 10 entries nobody has ever heard of, get no responses, and then completely forget about it when I see a shiny thing in the corner.



I was planning on doing a all-culture list (basically anything and everything think is pretty fab from film to music via books and theatre) - still might, though I wouldn't set a number.

Do one, it will be a good read, even if it's just full of surrealist British porn from the 70s.


I started one ages ago. I had to abort it when I was out of the country for three months without access to most of my collection. But I suppose I could do a new one with a different focus.

But you should totally do a list, I'd be really interested in reading it.

And if you like surrealist British 70s porn you should check out Diversions.

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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 29/4/2012 7:08:31 AM   
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17. "Save Me" music video

Now, everybody knows that the best song called Save Me was released by Queen in 1980 and if I could find a way to include that in this list I would, just to make Matty and Rawls happy. Alas, it's never been used in a film to my knowledge. However, this song by Aimee Mann was used and written specifically for the film Magnolia. It's far from being my favourite song but combined with the video it makes a perfect companion piece to the film and the use of the film's actor in the video rather than simply footage from the film really does help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNbTC6xLVg0


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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 29/4/2012 7:19:23 AM   
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18. Sunday afternoons when I was a child.

Ok, a somewhat abstract inclusion here, less to do with any specific aspect of film but more my relationship and history with film. It's nostalgic and personal and there'll be a few more of this kind in the list. Basically, when I was younger my dad and I used to spend Sunday afternoons watching films. There rarely seemed to be time for doing so during the week, so it was Sunday afternoons that first started my love for films. More specifically it started my love for certain types of films. There were Disney shorts and Tom and Jerry/Looney Tunes but we also saw a lot of films that my Dad loved which I probably wouldn't have even bothered with. As such, Bob Hope comedies, the Rathbone Holmes films, the universal Monster series and, most importantly, Laurel and Hardy films became favourites of mine by the time I was about 6. My dad doesn't always have the best taste in film (he recently saw and loved Avatar!) but many of my fondest childhood memories are of these afternoons and I'm deeply appreciative of them.

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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 29/4/2012 7:26:21 AM   
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19. M*A*S*H

I'm not cheating by including a TV show. It is, after all, based on a film. Contrary to popular belief, the show got better as it went on and ending up being better with the drama than it often was with the comedy. There are probably three characters in the show who'd make my all-time top 20, but Alan Alda is the real star. Consistently excellent.



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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 29/4/2012 7:50:57 AM   
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20. The Music of the Lord of the Rings Films: A Comprehensive Account of Howard Shore's Scores by Doug Adams


Yes, the first of many LOTR things in this list. This book came out in 2010, a good few years after it was first announced. If any of you own The Complete Recordings for the LOTR films (and you all should!), Doug Adams is the author who provided the rather extensive liner notes, as well as the highly detailed Annotate Scores which were released on the internet.. This book takes both those sources and greatly expands upon them to create a magnificent insight into the wealth, variety and interconnectedness of the music Shore wrote. It's a fascinating book and one that even I, a musical numpty, can follow. As an extra bonus it comes with a disk of unreleased music and it's gorgeously illustrated by John Howe and Alan Lee. The fact that my copy is signed by both Adams and Shore is the icing on a delightful cake.


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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 29/4/2012 7:56:38 AM   
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21.


Has there ever been a better t-shirt than this? Well, yes there has and a couple will appear later but come on, this is Sesame Street puppets as Star Wars characters! It could have been made with me in mind. Now all I need is a Muppet/LOTR crossover and my life will be complete.


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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 29/4/2012 7:59:17 AM   
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22. Jack Pierce's iconic Frankenstein make-up.



Need I say more?



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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 29/4/2012 10:07:01 AM   
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18. Sunday afternoons when I was a child.

Ok, a somewhat abstract inclusion here, less to do with any specific aspect of film but more my relationship and history with film. It's nostalgic and personal and there'll be a few more of this kind in the list. Basically, when I was younger my dad and I used to spend Sunday afternoons watching films. There rarely seemed to be time for doing so during the week, so it was Sunday afternoons that first started my love for films. More specifically it started my love for certain types of films. There were Disney shorts and Tom and Jerry/Looney Tunes but we also saw a lot of films that my Dad loved which I probably wouldn't have even bothered with. As such, Bob Hope comedies, the Rathbone Holmes films, the universal Monster series and, most importantly, Laurel and Hardy films became favourites of mine by the time I was about 6. My dad doesn't always have the best taste in film (he recently saw and loved Avatar!) but many of my fondest childhood memories are of these afternoons and I'm deeply appreciative of them.


That's lovely.



Great additions to the list - though I still haven't got past series 3 of MASH, despite really enjoying it.

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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 29/4/2012 10:36:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

18. Sunday afternoons when I was a child.

Ok, a somewhat abstract inclusion here, less to do with any specific aspect of film but more my relationship and history with film. It's nostalgic and personal and there'll be a few more of this kind in the list. Basically, when I was younger my dad and I used to spend Sunday afternoons watching films. There rarely seemed to be time for doing so during the week, so it was Sunday afternoons that first started my love for films. More specifically it started my love for certain types of films. There were Disney shorts and Tom and Jerry/Looney Tunes but we also saw a lot of films that my Dad loved which I probably wouldn't have even bothered with. As such, Bob Hope comedies, the Rathbone Holmes films, the universal Monster series and, most importantly, Laurel and Hardy films became favourites of mine by the time I was about 6. My dad doesn't always have the best taste in film (he recently saw and loved Avatar!) but many of my fondest childhood memories are of these afternoons and I'm deeply appreciative of them.


It's genetic, then?

On a serious note, that's lovely and something I'm sure most of us emphasise with.

M*A*S*H - I think I've mentioned how much I disagree with you on this before. It goes badly downhill after series three when two of the best characters leave. After series five, when another great one goes it's nigh on unwatchable despite his replacement then becoming the best character in the show.

Pierce's Frankenstein make up - iconic and brilliant.


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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 29/4/2012 11:16:15 AM   
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Walked into that one, didn't I?

MA, whatever you're doing, stop and go and watch MASH!


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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 29/4/2012 11:24:47 AM   
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Those Coraline posters are magnificent, just like the movie.
The Frankenstein make-up is iconic, and for good reason.
I want that t-shirt!

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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 29/4/2012 11:26:41 AM   
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I want that t-shirt!


$10 on the US Amazon!


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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 29/4/2012 11:50:09 AM   
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Sweet!

Thanks for the heads-up.

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RE: 3000 Really Rather Good Things About Cinema. - 29/4/2012 6:07:00 PM   
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It's genetic, then?





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On a serious note, that's lovely and something I'm sure most of us emphasise with.


I do not think it means what you think it means.

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M*A*S*H - I think I've mentioned how much I disagree with you on this before. It goes badly downhill after series three when two of the best characters leave. After series five, when another great one goes it's nigh on unwatchable despite his replacement then becoming the best character in the show.


Yeah, this. A perfect example of how so many American comedies outlive their funny.

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