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RE: 189. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 10:58:49 AM   
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I don't know. When the film came out back in 99 I was a major Smith nut and I really dug Dogma at the time. Then for some reason it was a few more years before I caught up with it again and I didn't have the same reaction to it as last time. I found it to be sloppily made, preachy and just not as funny as I remembered it to be.

It may also have something to do with the fact that I've cooled down on Smith in recent years. The recent Cop Out debacle also helped to push down my opinion of the man.

Having said that, though, I really loved Red State. One of my favourite films of last year, and proof that when Smith really puts his mind to it he can come up with something that's really interesting.

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RE: 189. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 11:09:21 AM   
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major Smith


Major Smith! *salutes*

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RE: 189. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 11:11:45 AM   
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188. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 12:38:22 PM   
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Five Reasons I Love The Day The Earth Stood Still


1 It creates that classic scifi sound through Bernard Herrmann’s use of the theremin.
2 It is now, more than ever, a timely reminder of the way we treat our planet.
3 It’s got a great big robot and a flying saucer! AN ACTUAL FLYING SAUCER!
4 It demonstrated how a studio director could make great films. Robert Wise has an immensely diverse filmography.
5 It’s a perfect slice of 50s scifi – encapsulating a world of yesterday by depicting a world yet to come.


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RE: 188. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 12:46:15 PM   
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Great film. Wise made some terrible stuff in his time - Sound of Music and Audrey Rose being two of the worst offenders, but this film, The Haunting, Curse of the Cat People, West Side Story show a great and versatile director.

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RE: 188. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 12:49:47 PM   
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Sound of Music - yea.

The Haunting - nay.

The next film will divide...

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187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 12:51:15 PM   
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Where to start. Where can one start? When one is dealing with a five-hour-plus, eight-episode, ten-year-spanning film by one of the most revered film-makers of France, of the last 50 years, of, well, ever, where exactly can one start? I’d start at the very beginning, but since Godard doesn’t, I don’t see why I should either. To be frank, I’m not sure where Godard started with Histoire(s) du Cinéma, nor where he finished. Or, if I’m being totally honest, what he did in the middle. If I can transmit some of the thoughts I had while watching the film, then perhaps in doing so I can help to solidify exactly what I thought of the film myself. Because this is a film that is incredibly hard to compare with any other; consequently it is a film for which I find it hard to elucidate my thoughts.

Met with the question, “what did you think of that?” my immediate response was blank. Such an onslaught of imagery, text, words, music. And all mixed and spun and moulded, toyed with, cajoled, obfuscated. This film explodes in your head as you might imagine would happen were you to try and watch every film you have ever seen, at the same time, while hallucinating. In French. Quite apart from Godard’s film, my only issue with the experience (and, like many of my favourite films, this is more an experience than almost any other, rather than a narrative-based film) was that the subtitles were occasional, and seemingly random. At points, the subtitling gaps were understandable: do you subtitle the voiceover, the clip being played, or the text on screen? At other times, the gaps were obtuse and incredibly frustrating. One interviewee espoused at length on matters of, I must presume, great importance. After subtitling her introductory remarks, there follows a huge section unsubtitled. She concludes, subtitled, “and this is why…”. Until such time as my French significantly improves, I will have to ponder as to what great revelation she put forth.

Putting aside this external complaint, and considering the film itself, then. The film is divided up into eight loose chapters, 1a, 1b, 2a, 2b, and so forth, filmed between 1988 and 1998. Any expectation of a narrative, traditional documentary on the history of cinema (or indeed, a picaresque series of stories about cinema, depending on your translation) should never have been entertained. This is a film which will offend many people; not in the South Park way, but in its manipulation of cinema as a tool. In the screening I attended there were several walk-outs. Which is a shame because it would appear they neither a) fell in love with it immediately (understandable) or b) experienced an epiphanic moment as I did, part way through either part 1a or 1b (they tended to merge). For a time, Godard uses Stravinsky’s The Rite of Spring as a musical cue. In doing so, he brings the vibrant musical imagery of that piece to the fore of my attention and, in communion with the imagery and other sounds, brings about a sudden, if potentially trite and metaphorically-limiting idea: If, in The Rite of Spring, Stravinsky was taking established musical instruments and creating a new, riotous, chaotically transcendent and utterly engaging music, then Godard, with Histoire(s) du Cinéma, is taking established cinematic conventions – music, montage, frame manipulation, sound mixing, narrative structure – and creating a new, riotous and equally chaotically transcendent and utterly engaging film. At its worst, Histoire is incoherent, but why does this have to be a pejorative consideration? It is experiential, taking the ideas of cinema to witness the concept of cinema.

Godard does of course consider historical moments in film. Five hours of experiential cinema is all the more tangible and cohesive if hung around a loose framework. He discusses Italian cinema, Hitchcock, Chaplin, just to pick out a few of the films or filmmakers I recognised; a significant number of films I didn’t recognise; and a host of films I didn’t recognise but really should have. It is not an exhaustive consideration, nor an exhausting one. This is not A Brief History of Film, it is not an encylopaedia of film. Godard does not use a non-cinematic form to discuss film, such as the encyclopaedia. He does not use a single cinematic form, such as the documentary. No, Godard uses the very essence of cinema, its ways, its peculiarities, its aweful diversity, and in so doing creates a masterpiece of unparalleled quality.

Histoire is not an easy watch. It is often filled with uncomfortable imagery, distracting techniques. One never forgets one is watching a film: you cannot lose yourself in the film. But then, is that not, in part at least, the point? Are we, as the viewer, not seeing in any film some part of ourselves reflected back? In considering films, are we not considering aspects of life, of how we live it, and of how it subsumes us? Is this then, a film that is saying life is film? At one point a Latin motto flashes up on screen. “Cogito Ergo Video.” “I think, therefore I see.” Or, to use a freer translation, “I think, therefore I film”. This is a motto that, in its duplicitousness manages to convey a philosophy both for us as a viewer, and for Godard as the film-maker. It is also, in its double meaning, as with the title of the film itself, representative of the twin nature of film: it is both truth and deception. In another on-screen text, Godard asks, “What is cinema?” And then answers it variously, and in so doing, sums it up perfectly. “Nothing.” “Everything.” “Something.” “Anything.”

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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 12:59:13 PM   
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manipulation of cinema as a tool


I've still not watched it. It's the only one in the S&S 50 I haven't and it's because I have no interest in it or in him and I don't really like forcing myself to watch something simply because of interest in film. Partly because I have no interest in what he does with it.

Some day maybe.


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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 1:04:28 PM   
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Excellent choice. Always floating near my top 100. I can't pretend to understand why some people seem to hate Godard so much, but I'm actually glad he splits opinion.

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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 1:08:50 PM   
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Excellent choice. Always floating near my top 100. I can't pretend to understand why some people seem to hate Godard so much, but I'm actually glad he splits opinion.



Cos he sucks?

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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 1:09:48 PM   
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Excellent choice. Always floating near my top 100. I can't pretend to understand why some people seem to hate Godard so much, but I'm actually glad he splits opinion.



Cos he sucks?


Hear that Godard haters? You got Gimli.

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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 1:12:19 PM   
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Excellent choice. Always floating near my top 100. I can't pretend to understand why some people seem to hate Godard so much, but I'm actually glad he splits opinion.


It starts with thinking his films are terrible tbh - in that it's nothing personal, so to speak.


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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 1:12:54 PM   
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quote:

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Excellent choice. Always floating near my top 100. I can't pretend to understand why some people seem to hate Godard so much, but I'm actually glad he splits opinion.



Cos he sucks?


Hear that Godard haters? You got Gimli.





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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 1:13:14 PM   
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quote:

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Excellent choice. Always floating near my top 100. I can't pretend to understand why some people seem to hate Godard so much, but I'm actually glad he splits opinion.



Cos he sucks?


Hear that Godard haters? You got Gimli.


I'd rather watch Van Helsing than any Godard.


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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 1:13:39 PM   
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He seems to make some people genuinely angry though. Anyone would think he was Alan Parker.

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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 1:14:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rawlinson


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quote:

ORIGINAL: rawlinson

Excellent choice. Always floating near my top 100. I can't pretend to understand why some people seem to hate Godard so much, but I'm actually glad he splits opinion.



Cos he sucks?


Hear that Godard haters? You got Gimli.


I'd rather watch Van Helsing than any Godard.



Gimli and Elab. I think Godard lovers win by default.

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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 1:19:10 PM   
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I'd rather watch Van Helsing than any Godard.



If I was ever going to use a quote in my sig, it'd be this.

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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 1:22:11 PM   
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I'd rather watch Van Helsing than any Godard.



If I was ever going to use a quote in my sig, it'd be this.


So that everyone on the forum can know Elab is an enemy of film?

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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 1:22:50 PM   
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You mean some people don't? 

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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 1:23:22 PM   
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You being a moderator should be the first clue.

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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 2:31:42 PM   
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Hey! Don't tar all us moderators with elab's brush (steady).

Gimli, you should ask elab her thoughts on Cars.

Godard is a mixed bag. His latest - Film Socialisme - is a disastrous mess. But Histoire is transcendent.

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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 2:38:32 PM   
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I think it was the one after another taking the same view on something the other day - me, Rinc. Film in question being Vertigo

If I get around to it I should be doing a review of the other great SF from 1951.


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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 2:45:11 PM   
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I'd rather watch Van Helsing than any Godard.



Holy fuck, are his films that bad?

I don't think I've seen any Godard.

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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 2:51:00 PM   
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I probably wouldn't suggest Histoire(s) as a starting point...

Breathless is the one most people have seen. Or Bande Á Part. (The film from which Tarantino's production company takes its name.)

Godard gets more antagonistic the older he gets, so start with the earlier films, probably, is the best bet.

Where's JBG when you need him...

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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 2:53:27 PM   
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JBG, I think, tended to go with Bande a Part (it of the Benny Hill chase) and Pierrot le Fou as good entry points. 

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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 4:40:58 PM   
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Yeah, or Alphaville.

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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 7/8/2012 6:13:53 PM   
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...I should probably watch Alphaville someday.

I've had it borrowed off Rhubarb for about two years now...


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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 9/8/2012 1:09:34 PM   
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Forum favourite coming right up.....




Five Reasons I Love Heat

1 It stars one of my favourite actors of all time (De Niro, 1973-1998)
2 Facing Pacino who, while I don’t rate him as highly, is so over-the-top here he complements De Niro’s cool.
3 The café scene.
4 I love epics and, running time aside, this is a sprawling crime epic.
5 Mann loves L.A., and this really feels like the city is a character. I love that directors can make characters out of places.


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185. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 9/8/2012 1:20:25 PM   
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To take some of the heat off my last choice (DID YOU SEE WHAT I DID THERE?) here's the next one straight away...



If by the second Academy Awards Hollywood hadn’t quite worked out how to do a musical, then by the ninth ceremony, they’d got the formula pretty much perfect. With The Great Ziegfeld (1936) there is almost a clinical precision to how effortlessly wonderful it is: how can something get to be so perfect by accident? Gone are the silent film trappings by which the first musical was constrained, to be replaced by pure spectacle, raucous comedy, and heartache, all over three hours and a lifetime.


William Powell plays Florenz Ziegfeld Jr., a turn-of-the-century showman who is a mild disappointment to his piano conservatory-running father (Joseph Cawthorn). The film establishes through a brief textual introduction that what follows are excerpts, highlights, episodes if you will, of an almost picaresque life. Throughout his life, Ziegfeld enjoys sparring with friend and competitor Billings (played amiably by Frank Morgan who would go on to play his own eponymous role in a certain 1939 family classic) – we first meet them as owners of rival fairground attractions: Ziegfeld with his strongman, Sandow (Nat Pendleton) and Billings with Egyptian dancers. The fortunes of Ziegfeld seem consistently chance-ridden: his fortune is at Blllings’ expense and not-uncommonly specifically because of Billings himself. When Ziegfeld’s success with Sandow sours, he steals Billings’ Next Big Thing, and ends up marrying her too.


Up to this point (about 50 minutes into the film) the question had risen unbidden as to whether this was indeed a musical: there had been no songs sung which, perhaps reasonably, one might see as a prerequisite of a musical. What the lack of music allowed was a lack of distraction. However much we may learn from a song – and a good musical tells as much, if not more, in a song than it does in speech – it inevitably crawls the action of the film. With the film able to breathe on its own, Powell is able to fully capture the audience with his Martini dry wit. He has chemistry with everyone, it seems. Note his exchange with the young Mary Lou – charming, beguilingly simple, effortlessly innocent. And then there is his rapport with Luise Rainer as Anne Held. Her frivolous nature, her constant mood-swings, all handled with utter aplomb and suavity by Powell.


Here, approximately one hour into the film, we start to get musical numbers. They’re not big, recognisable numbers either. The most well-known tune used is Jerome Kern’s “Look for the Silver Lining”, written in 1919. For the film: ahead of its time. For the film’s release date, some 20 years too late. It’s akin to making a film now, setting it in the early 70s and having a cabaret act sing Robbie Williams’ “Angels”. Anachronistic yes: but director Robert Z Leonard somehow pulls it off. Rainer gets the bulk of co-star screentime, despite a third-star billing, and gets the meatier part (and the one that got her the Oscar). Ingenue, lover, star, wife, cast-aside. She is made by Ziegfeld, and left to fade by Ziegfeld.


If there was a sense of expectation from a songless first third, nothing could quite prepare one for the absolute, unapologetic spectacle of Ziegfeld’s Follies. Like a burst of flavour, the musical joy as that endless curtain rises, while the central stage rotates, couldn’t have been more surprising or wonderful if it had flourished into colour. And then the musical numbers keep coming including a heavily choreographed risqué bed-based number, and a mesmerising tap dance from Ray Bolger (who would join co-star Frank Morgan three years later to wonder what would happen if he only had a brain).


But as with many great musicals, the sweetness of the number is oft tempered with bitterness behind. And here, Ziegfeld’s Follies become Ziegfeld’s folly. Eventually, popularity changes, wanes, and his marriage to Held ends. Finally we meet Myrna Loy. The crackle of chemistry between her and Powell is tangible – unsurprisingly, given how much they worked together. Years pass – just as Held and Ziegfeld were married with out fanfare or on-screen depiction, so suddenly Ziegfeld and Loy’s Billir Burke have children. We begin to sense a life slipping by, of opportunities lost, regret, even amidst the success. A picture is painted of a man constantly dissatisfied, always reaching higher, further, for bigger and better things.


The Great Ziegfeld is an astonishing accomplishment. It made me whoop with laughter. It made my jaw drop in amazement at the numbers. And it made me cry.


It also committed a most heinous, unforgivable crime. If one is going to make a film in black and white, please do not tease the audience by mentioning that the stunning beauty on-screen is a redhead. It’s plain cruel.

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RE: 187. Homer's ALL NEW Top 300 Films. - 9/8/2012 1:28:38 PM   
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Heat - An average film with a couple of great scenes (cafe and shootout).

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Blood Island. So called because it's the exact shape of some blood

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